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{{quote|'''King Jaffe Joffer:''' Who am I to change things?<br />
{{quote|'''King Jaffe Joffer:''' Who am I to change things?
'''Queen Aoleon:''' I thought you were the king.|'''''[[Coming to America]]'''''}}
'''Queen Aoleon:''' I thought you were the king.|'''''[[Coming to America]]'''''}}


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Now this might come across as [[What an Idiot!]] for Bob, but Bob was raised to respect tradition. So actually using his authority this way didn't occur to him until just then. Especially when it is a normally good rule that works out badly in this case; this is a traditional reason for the existence of pardons.
Now this might come across as [[What an Idiot!]] for Bob, but Bob was raised to respect tradition. So actually using his authority this way didn't occur to him until just then. Especially when it is a normally good rule that works out badly in this case; this is a traditional reason for the existence of pardons.


Now in reality, some rules were out of the reach of all but the most absolute monarchs. Rules that could have been changed would also be met with resistance unless the ruler was strong willed enough to enact these changes. Sometimes fiction will deal with these difficulties as well, but not always.
Now in reality, some rules were out of the reach of all but the most absolute monarchs. Rules that could have been changed would also be met with resistance unless the ruler was strong willed enough to enact these changes. Furthermore actual absolute monarchs are less so in reality, for not only does a ruler have to contend with other rulers, he will usually have entrenched interests in his own camp that can resist by obstructionism or if worst comes to worst by assassination. Even the most totalitarian rulers cannot rule everything if only because all governments have to deal with criminality and several(like Russia or China)have wide spaces of wilderness where the state is loose on the ground. Sometimes fiction will deal with these difficulties as well, but not always.


Contrast [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them]] (Bob can enforce, and even change, the rules; he just chooses to ignore them).
Contrast [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them]] (Bob can enforce, and even change, the rules; he just chooses to ignore them).

{{Forgetfulness Tropes}}

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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* ''[[Princess Knight]]'': Sapphire's father realizes this at about the two-thirds point in the anime. Just as he's about to release a proclamation that would allow women to rule Silverland, he is by apparently complete coincidence kidnapped by the baddies, who have gotten tired of waiting for Sapphire to slip up and reveal she's actually a girl.
* ''[[Princess Knight]]'': Sapphire's father realizes this at about the two-thirds point in the anime. Just as he's about to release a proclamation that would allow women to rule Silverland, he is by apparently complete coincidence kidnapped by the baddies, who have gotten tired of waiting for Sapphire to slip up and reveal she's actually a girl.
* ''[[Sword Art Online]]'': This is the downfall of the [[Big Bad]] of the second story arc, {{spoiler|Sugou Nobuyuki}}. Despite conducting his research within a virtual world where he had administrative access that allowed him to alter the world as he wished, he could only think in terms of conventional security (such as constructing a cage accessed by entering a password, rather than allowing entrance and exit only to himself).




== Film -- Animated ==
== Film -- Animated ==
* The Sultan at the end of ''[[Aladdin (Disney)|Aladdin]]'', in regards to the "princess must only marry a prince" law.
* ''[[Aladdin]]: At the end of the film, the Sultan falls into this in regards to the "princess must only marry a prince" law.
{{quote| '''Sultan''': "It's that law that's the problem... well, am I Sultan or am I Sultan? I decree, from this day forward, the princess may marry whomever she deems worthy!"}}
{{quote|'''Sultan''': "It's that law that's the problem... well, am I Sultan or am I Sultan? I decree, from this day forward, the princess may marry whomever she deems worthy!"}}




== Film -- Live Action ==
== Film -- Live Action ==
* ''[[Coming to America]]''
* ''[[Coming to America]]''
* Averted in ''[[Robo Cop]]'' when the vice president of OCP takes the president hostage. Robocop cannot intervene against an OCP employee. Instead of changing Robo's directive, the president just fires the VP, making him fair game.
* ''[[RoboCop]]'': Averted. When the vice president of OCP takes the president hostage, Robocop cannot intervene against an OCP employee. Instead of changing Robo's directive, the president just fires the VP, making him fair game.




== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* ''[[The Bible]]'': Averted in the Book of Esther, the king is maneuvered into creating a law that would allow all the Jews to massacred by Haman. When Queen Esther reveals that she is Jewish herself and exposes Haman to the king, the law authorizing pogrom cannot be annulled by even the king. However, there is nothing that prevents him from passing a new law enabling the Jewish population to defend themselves with state support.
* Inverted at ''[[The Once and Future King]]'', where King Arthur chooses ''not'' to change the law about burning adulterous wives after Guinevere's affair with Lancelot is revealed. He is not (particularly) jealous of them. He loves Guinevere, he loves Lancelot, he is the king and the law is barbarous, but no, he will not change it, he will keep it for some vague noble reason (specifically, that no-one should be above the law).
* ''[[Incarnations of Immortality]]'': Played with. In the first novel, it isn't so much that Death forgot that he could change the rules; it's that he didn't know that he could (in fact, he didn't even ''know'' half of them), causing infant souls born under questionable circumstances to go to Purgatory and later triggering {{spoiler|an end to all death worldwide because he refused to take one soul}}. At the end of the book, he realizes that it's his prerogative to do what he damn well pleases as the Incarnation of Death, {{spoiler|and that all of Satan's rulesmongering didn't mean a damn thing. He also changes the rules regarding infant souls, sending one to heaven instead of Purgatory in the end.}} The last is [[retcon]]ned in later books, as Death is acting outside of ''his'' authority.
* ''[[The Once and Future King]]'': Inverted. King Arthur chooses ''not'' to change the law about burning adulterous wives after Guinevere's affair with Lancelot is revealed. He is not (particularly) jealous of them. He loves Guinevere, he loves Lancelot, he is the king and the law is barbarous, but he chose not to change it for the reason that nobody should be above the law.
** Also, he pretty much ignores the two of them until he can no longer pretend to be ignorant of the affair, and allows the two to flee. He's very much a tragic figure, though, as he does have to persecute them. His character arc of the last book or two has been realizing that the law needs to apply to everyone.
** Also, he pretty much ignores the two of them until he can no longer pretend to be ignorant of the affair, and allows the two to flee. He's very much a tragic figure, though, as he does have to persecute them. His character arc of the last book or two has been realizing that the law needs to apply to everyone.
* ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight series]]'': In ''Breaking Dawn'', Jacob has to submit to the will of Sam, the Alpha Wolf. When Sam orders him to help destroy the Cullens (and Bella), he remembers that he was born to be the Alpha but he had voluntarily given up the birthright. Choosing to become the Alpha frees Jacob from obeying Sam's orders.
** He also is too [[Lawful Stupid]] to [[Take a Third Option]] and just pardon them. Plus, he could still change the law and keep the "no-one should be above the law" as long as he has the new law apply to everyone. Like for instance make adultery only punished if the spouse demands it.
* ''[[The Bible (Literature)|The Bible]]'': Averted in the Book of Esther, the king is maneuvered into creating a law that would allow all the Jews to massacred by Haman. When Queen Esther reveals that she is Jewish herself and exposes Haman to the king, the law authorizing pogrom cannot be annulled by even the king. However, there is nothing that prevents him from passing a new law enabling the Jewish population to defend themselves with state support.
* Played with in ''[[Incarnations of Immortality]]''. In the first novel, it isn't so much that Death forgot that he could change the rules; it's that he didn't know that he could (in fact, he didn't even ''know'' half of them), causing infant souls born under questionable circumstances to go to Purgatory and later triggering {{spoiler|an end to all death worldwide because he refused to take one soul}}. At the end of the book, he realizes that it's his prerogative to do what he damn well pleases as the Incarnation of Death, {{spoiler|and that all of Satan's rulesmongering didn't mean a damn thing. He also changes the rules regarding infant souls, sending one to heaven instead of Purgatory in the end.}} The last is [[Retcon|retconned]] in later books, as Death is acting outside of ''his'' authority.
* In ''[[Twilight (Literature)|Breaking Dawn]]'', Jacob has to submit to the will of Sam, the Alpha Wolf. When Sam orders him to help destroy the Cullens (and Bella), he remembers that he was born to be the Alpha but he had voluntarily given up the birthright. Choosing to become the Alpha frees Jacob from obeying Sam's orders.




== Live-Action TV ==
== Live-Action TV ==
* Inverted/deconstructed in ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''. The Doctor really ''can't'' change the rules, at least without causing seven kinds of hell to break loose, but he temporarily forgets this.
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'': Inverted. The Doctor really ''can't'' change the rules, at least without causing seven kinds of hell to break loose, but he temporarily forgets this.
{{quote| '''The Doctor''': The laws of time are mine! And ''they will obey me!''}}
{{quote|'''The Doctor''': The laws of time are mine! And ''they will obey me!''}}


== Tabletop Games ==
* A frequent problem for Lawful types in ''[[Dungeons and Dragons (Tabletop Game)|Dungeons And Dragons]]'', whether they be [[Lawful Evil]], [[Lawful Neutral]] or [[Lawful Good]].




== Theatre ==
== Theatre ==
* ''[[Gilbert and Sullivan|Iolanthe]]'': A comedic version of this occurs. The Chancellor wants to marry Phyllis, who is his ward.
* ''[[Gilbert and Sullivan|Iolanthe]]'': A comedic version of this occurs. The Chancellor wants to marry Phyllis, who is his ward.
{{quote| '''Lord Chancellor''': Victory! Victory! Success has crowned my efforts, and I may consider myself engaged to Phyllis! At first I wouldn't hear of it -- it was out of the question. But I took heart. I pointed out to myself that I was no stranger to myself; that, in point of fact, I had been personally acquainted with myself for some years. This had its effect. I admitted that I had watched my professional advancement with considerable interest, and I handsomely added that I yielded to no one in admiration for my private and professional virtues. This was a great point gained. I then endeavoured to work upon my feelings. Conceive my joy when I distinctly perceived a tear glistening in my own eye! Eventually, after a severe struggle with myself, I reluctantly - most reluctantly - consented.}}
{{quote|'''Lord Chancellor''': Victory! Victory! Success has crowned my efforts, and I may consider myself engaged to Phyllis! At first I wouldn't hear of it -- it was out of the question. But I took heart. I pointed out to myself that I was no stranger to myself; that, in point of fact, I had been personally acquainted with myself for some years. This had its effect. I admitted that I had watched my professional advancement with considerable interest, and I handsomely added that I yielded to no one in admiration for my private and professional virtues. This was a great point gained. I then endeavoured to work upon my feelings. Conceive my joy when I distinctly perceived a tear glistening in my own eye! Eventually, after a severe struggle with myself, I reluctantly - most reluctantly - consented.}}
** A song or so later, Iolanthe's life stands forfeit for breaking her vow not to reveal herself to the Lord Chancellor, and so do the rest of the fairies' -- all save the Queen -- for marrying mortals just as Iolanthe did. It takes the Lord Chancellor's brilliant legal mind to save the day by changing the fairy law to mandate death for any fairy who ''don't'' marry a mortal. Hasty marriage for the Queen, and everyone goes home happy.
** A song or so later, Iolanthe's life stands forfeit for breaking her vow not to reveal herself to the Lord Chancellor, and so do the rest of the fairies' -- all save the Queen—for marrying mortals just as Iolanthe did. It takes the Lord Chancellor's brilliant legal mind to save the day by changing the fairy law to mandate death for any fairy who ''don't'' marry a mortal. Hasty marriage for the Queen, and everyone goes home happy.


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Latest revision as of 14:02, 29 March 2021

King Jaffe Joffer: Who am I to change things?

Queen Aoleon: I thought you were the king.

Bob has near absolute authority in his land, but an existing law will hurt him or someone he loves. Often this law forces an Arranged Marriage, other times it can be a minor crime treated with a draconian punishment, or it might be something else.

Bob agonizes about how helpless he is to change this law, until he remembers, or is reminded, that he does have the authority to change the law.

Now this might come across as What an Idiot! for Bob, but Bob was raised to respect tradition. So actually using his authority this way didn't occur to him until just then. Especially when it is a normally good rule that works out badly in this case; this is a traditional reason for the existence of pardons.

Now in reality, some rules were out of the reach of all but the most absolute monarchs. Rules that could have been changed would also be met with resistance unless the ruler was strong willed enough to enact these changes. Furthermore actual absolute monarchs are less so in reality, for not only does a ruler have to contend with other rulers, he will usually have entrenched interests in his own camp that can resist by obstructionism or if worst comes to worst by assassination. Even the most totalitarian rulers cannot rule everything if only because all governments have to deal with criminality and several(like Russia or China)have wide spaces of wilderness where the state is loose on the ground. Sometimes fiction will deal with these difficulties as well, but not always.

Contrast Screw the Rules, I Make Them (Bob can enforce, and even change, the rules; he just chooses to ignore them).

Related "forgetfulness" tropes:

Character Condition Character doesn't remember, or Remembered Too Late Character remembers, maybe Just in Time
Has magical or metahuman ability Forgot About His Powers, Reed Richards Is Useless Remembered I Could Fly
Has mundane ability Idiot Ball Forgot I Could Change the Rules
Doesn't have mundane ability Forgot I Couldn't Swim ?
Examples of Forgot I Could Change the Rules include:


Anime and Manga

  • Princess Knight: Sapphire's father realizes this at about the two-thirds point in the anime. Just as he's about to release a proclamation that would allow women to rule Silverland, he is by apparently complete coincidence kidnapped by the baddies, who have gotten tired of waiting for Sapphire to slip up and reveal she's actually a girl.
  • Sword Art Online: This is the downfall of the Big Bad of the second story arc, Sugou Nobuyuki. Despite conducting his research within a virtual world where he had administrative access that allowed him to alter the world as he wished, he could only think in terms of conventional security (such as constructing a cage accessed by entering a password, rather than allowing entrance and exit only to himself).


Film -- Animated

  • Aladdin: At the end of the film, the Sultan falls into this in regards to the "princess must only marry a prince" law.

Sultan: "It's that law that's the problem... well, am I Sultan or am I Sultan? I decree, from this day forward, the princess may marry whomever she deems worthy!"


Film -- Live Action

  • Coming to America
  • RoboCop: Averted. When the vice president of OCP takes the president hostage, Robocop cannot intervene against an OCP employee. Instead of changing Robo's directive, the president just fires the VP, making him fair game.


Literature

  • The Bible: Averted in the Book of Esther, the king is maneuvered into creating a law that would allow all the Jews to massacred by Haman. When Queen Esther reveals that she is Jewish herself and exposes Haman to the king, the law authorizing pogrom cannot be annulled by even the king. However, there is nothing that prevents him from passing a new law enabling the Jewish population to defend themselves with state support.
  • Incarnations of Immortality: Played with. In the first novel, it isn't so much that Death forgot that he could change the rules; it's that he didn't know that he could (in fact, he didn't even know half of them), causing infant souls born under questionable circumstances to go to Purgatory and later triggering an end to all death worldwide because he refused to take one soul. At the end of the book, he realizes that it's his prerogative to do what he damn well pleases as the Incarnation of Death, and that all of Satan's rulesmongering didn't mean a damn thing. He also changes the rules regarding infant souls, sending one to heaven instead of Purgatory in the end. The last is retconned in later books, as Death is acting outside of his authority.
  • The Once and Future King: Inverted. King Arthur chooses not to change the law about burning adulterous wives after Guinevere's affair with Lancelot is revealed. He is not (particularly) jealous of them. He loves Guinevere, he loves Lancelot, he is the king and the law is barbarous, but he chose not to change it for the reason that nobody should be above the law.
    • Also, he pretty much ignores the two of them until he can no longer pretend to be ignorant of the affair, and allows the two to flee. He's very much a tragic figure, though, as he does have to persecute them. His character arc of the last book or two has been realizing that the law needs to apply to everyone.
  • Twilight series: In Breaking Dawn, Jacob has to submit to the will of Sam, the Alpha Wolf. When Sam orders him to help destroy the Cullens (and Bella), he remembers that he was born to be the Alpha but he had voluntarily given up the birthright. Choosing to become the Alpha frees Jacob from obeying Sam's orders.


Live-Action TV

  • Doctor Who: Inverted. The Doctor really can't change the rules, at least without causing seven kinds of hell to break loose, but he temporarily forgets this.

The Doctor: The laws of time are mine! And they will obey me!


Theatre

  • Iolanthe: A comedic version of this occurs. The Chancellor wants to marry Phyllis, who is his ward.

Lord Chancellor: Victory! Victory! Success has crowned my efforts, and I may consider myself engaged to Phyllis! At first I wouldn't hear of it -- it was out of the question. But I took heart. I pointed out to myself that I was no stranger to myself; that, in point of fact, I had been personally acquainted with myself for some years. This had its effect. I admitted that I had watched my professional advancement with considerable interest, and I handsomely added that I yielded to no one in admiration for my private and professional virtues. This was a great point gained. I then endeavoured to work upon my feelings. Conceive my joy when I distinctly perceived a tear glistening in my own eye! Eventually, after a severe struggle with myself, I reluctantly - most reluctantly - consented.

    • A song or so later, Iolanthe's life stands forfeit for breaking her vow not to reveal herself to the Lord Chancellor, and so do the rest of the fairies' -- all save the Queen—for marrying mortals just as Iolanthe did. It takes the Lord Chancellor's brilliant legal mind to save the day by changing the fairy law to mandate death for any fairy who don't marry a mortal. Hasty marriage for the Queen, and everyone goes home happy.