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<blockquote class="templatequote" style="background: #f53131; padding: 1em; border-style: solid;"><big>MODERATOR NOTE: This trope is '''''not''''' [[Complete Monster]]. Any attempt to turn Magnificent Bastard into a clone of Complete Monster will be reverted without debate.</big>
{{quote|''"[[Worthy Opponent|Rommel]]... you [[Trope Namer|magnificent bastard]], I read your BOOK!]"''|'''George S. Patton'''<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXKVOxqkWM YouTube link]</ref>, ''[[Patton]]''}}
<div class="templatequotecite">&#8212; The Mgmt.</div></blockquote>


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If there was ever a character that deserved to be called “Magnificent”, that character ''is'' the [[Magnificent Bastard]]. The Magnificent Bastard is what happens when you combine the [[Chessmaster]], the [[Trickster]], and the [[Manipulative Bastard]] ([[Large Ham]] is optional): bold, charismatic, independent, and audacious. Capturing the audience with his charisma, incredible intellect, mastery of manipulation, and boldness of action, this character is a show-stealer, demanding your reverence at every turn. The term "Magnificent Bastard" was first used by General Patton in reference to Erwin Rommel in the film ''[[Patton]]'', upon realizing that he was facing a man who literally wrote the book on deceptive warfare. It acquired its current meaning courtesy of Lionel Luthor of ''[[Smallville]]'', who was given this nickname by the [[Television Without Pity]] boards.
{{quote|text=''"[[Worthy Opponent|Rommel]]... you [[Trope Namer|magnificent bastard]], I read your BOOK!"''|sign='''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXKVOxqkWM George S. Patton]'''|source=''[[Patton]]''}}

If there was ever a character that deserved to be called “Magnificent”, that character ''is'' the '''Magnificent Bastard'''. The Magnificent Bastard is what happens when you combine the [[Chessmaster]], the [[Trickster]], and the [[Manipulative Bastard]] ([[Large Ham]] is optional): bold, charismatic, independent, and audacious. Capturing the audience with his charisma, incredible intellect, mastery of manipulation, and boldness of action, this character is a show-stealer, demanding your reverence at every turn. The term "Magnificent Bastard" was first used by General Patton in reference to Erwin Rommel in the film ''[[Patton]]'', upon realizing that he was facing a man who literally wrote the book on deceptive warfare. It acquired its current meaning courtesy of Lionel Luthor of ''[[Smallville]]'', who was given this nickname by the [[Television Without Pity]] boards.


So what makes a character a Magnificent Bastard? Let's break it down:
So what makes a character a Magnificent Bastard? Let's break it down:


* '''[[The Chessmaster|He is brilliant]] and utterly devious''', to an almost breathtaking, mind-boggling degree. Call it [[The Chessmaster|genius]], call it [[Xanatos Roulette|virtual omniscience]], but he always seems to [[Batman Gambit|know what everyone else is planning at any given moment]], and exactly how to arrange the game so [[Xanatos Gambit|he wins every time]].
* '''[[The Chessmaster|They are brilliant]] and utterly devious''', to an almost breathtaking, mind-boggling degree. Call it [[The Chessmaster|genius]] or [[Xanatos Roulette|virtual omniscience]], but they always seem to [[Batman Gambit|know what everyone else is planning at any given moment]], and exactly how to arrange the game so [[Xanatos Gambit|they win every time]].
* '''[[Manipulative Bastard|He is a smooth operator.]]''' He always knows exactly what to say to [[Manipulative Bastard|position you where he wants you]], [[Xanatos Gambit|always has a backup strategy]] and [[Xanatos Speed Chess|never loses his cool]]. Even if on the remote chance something happens that wasn't in his plans, [[Xanatos Speed Chess|you'd never know it]] [[I Meant to Do That|from his actions]].
* '''[[Manipulative Bastard|They are smooth operators.]]''' They'll always know exactly what to say to [[Manipulative Bastard|position you where they want you]], [[Xanatos Gambit|always have a backup strategy]] and [[Xanatos Speed Chess|never loses their cool]]. Even if on the remote chance something happens that wasn't in their plans, [[Xanatos Speed Chess|you'd never know it]] [[I Meant to Do That|from their actions]].
* '''[[Visionary Villain|He has a goal]],''' he's not going to stop until he's completed it...[[Hidden Agenda Villain|whatever it is]]. To that end he will do almost anything. He'll move heaven and hell, and we ''want'' to see him succeed. Despite his choice of tactics, he is [[Noble Demon|rarely if ever pointlessly cruel]], and has a reason for everything he does.
* '''[[Visionary Villain|They have a goal]],''' and are not going to stop until they've completed it...[[Hidden Agenda Villain|whatever it is]]. To that end they will do almost anything. They'll move heaven and hell, and we ''want'' to see them succeed. Despite their choice of tactics, they are [[Noble Demon|rarely if ever pointlessly cruel]], and have reason for everything they do.
* '''He is charismatic,''' often [[The Charmer|charming]], his personality like a physical force. People tend to like him, sometimes even when they know he [[Affably Evil|isn't on their side]], and even those who hate his guts [[Worthy Opponent|have to admit respect]]. Even when at his darkest, he has traits which one can't help but admire.
* '''They are charismatic,''' often [[The Charmer|charming]], their personality like a physical force. People tend to like them, sometimes even when they know they [[Faux Affably Evil|aren't on their side]], and even those who hate their guts [[Worthy Opponent|have to admit respect]]. Even when at their darkest, they have traits which one can't help but admire.


Other common aspects of a [[Magnificent Bastard]] include being a [[Large Ham]], a [[Sharp Dressed Man]], [[Wicked Cultured]], [[Crazy Awesome]], and [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]].
Other common aspects of a Magnificent Bastard include being a [[Large Ham]], a [[Sharp-Dressed Man]], [[Wicked Cultured]], [[Crazy Awesome]], and [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]].


A key difference that separates the [[Magnificent Bastard]] from other character tropes like the mere [[Manipulative Bastard]] or [[The Chessmaster]] is the Bastard's willingness to step onto the playing field in person. The risks are obvious, but the strategic advantages are numerous.
A key difference that separates the Magnificent Bastard from other character tropes like the mere [[Manipulative Bastard]] or [[The Chessmaster]] is the Bastard's willingness to step onto the playing field in person. The risks are obvious, but the strategic advantages are numerous.


While usually an antagonist, especially if he's the [[Big Bad]], the [[Magnificent Bastard]] can be aligned on either side of a conflict. Hell, he's so amazing he tends to [[Ubermensch|forgo the idea of good and evil all together]], instead following his own agenda, choosing to [[Playing Both Sides|help whichever side]] will further his goals. However, it's true that his penchant for manipulation at the expense of others means it's common for him to be a [[Villain]], [[Villain Protagonist]], or at least an [[Anti-Hero]], but purely heroic examples exist. Either way, he's almost always in charge of whatever organization he's involved with, or [[The Man Behind the Man|might as well be]].
While usually an antagonist, especially if he's the [[Big Bad]], the Magnificent Bastard can be aligned on either side of a conflict. Hell, he's so amazing he tends to [[Ubermensch|forgo the idea of good and evil all together]], instead following his own agenda, choosing to [[Playing Both Sides|help whichever side]] will further his goals. However, it's true that his penchant for manipulation at the expense of others means it's common for him to be a [[Villain]], [[Villain Protagonist]], or at least an [[Anti-Hero]], but purely heroic examples exist. Either way, he's almost always in charge of whatever organization he's involved with, or [[The Man Behind the Man|might as well be]].


Aside from all the various aspects which come together to define the [[Magnificent Bastard]], compare and contrast the [[Smug Snake]], who may once have been a [[Magnificent Bastard]] in the making but fell short due to his own arrogance. When a villainous [[Magnificent Bastard]] becomes so over the top that he is no longer believable, then he becomes a [[Villain Sue]] (a regular [[Mary Sue]] for the heroic version). Also compare the [[Guile Hero]], who uses cleverness, trickery and manipulation but lacks the flair and depth of-planning to elevate him to [[Magnificent Bastard]] status. Despite the term, he is not likely to be a [[Bastard Bastard]], thanks to that person's inherent daddy issues, but there's nothing preventing him either.
Aside from all the various aspects which come together to define the Magnificent Bastard, compare and contrast the [[Smug Snake]], who may once have been a Magnificent Bastard in the making but fell short due to his own arrogance. When a villainous Magnificent Bastard becomes so over the top that he is no longer believable, then he becomes a [[Villain Sue]] (a regular [[Mary Sue]] for the heroic version). Also compare the [[Guile Hero]], who uses cleverness, trickery and manipulation but lacks the flair and depth of-planning to elevate him to Magnificent Bastard status. Despite the term, he is not likely to be a [[Bastard Bastard]], thanks to that person's inherent daddy issues, but there's nothing preventing him either.


Bonus points if at one point he or she (more commonly he) offers the enemy a [[Xanatos Gambit]] choice, and gives a [[Slasher Smile]].
Bonus points if at one point he or she (more commonly he) offers the enemy a [[Xanatos Gambit]] choice, and gives a [[Slasher Smile]].
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As [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] and popularity can vary from person to person in an audience, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to which characters qualify for the title or fall under some other trope such as those stated above. Check this page out if you want to [[So You Want To/Write a Magnificent Bastard|Write a Magnificent Bastard]] of your own.
As [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] and popularity can vary from person to person in an audience, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to which characters qualify for the title or fall under some other trope such as those stated above. Check this page out if you want to [[So You Want To/Write a Magnificent Bastard|Write a Magnificent Bastard]] of your own.
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Latest revision as of 15:59, 23 August 2022

MODERATOR NOTE: This trope is not Complete Monster. Any attempt to turn Magnificent Bastard into a clone of Complete Monster will be reverted without debate.

— The Mgmt.
"Rommel... you magnificent bastard, I read your BOOK!"

If there was ever a character that deserved to be called “Magnificent”, that character is the Magnificent Bastard. The Magnificent Bastard is what happens when you combine the Chessmaster, the Trickster, and the Manipulative Bastard (Large Ham is optional): bold, charismatic, independent, and audacious. Capturing the audience with his charisma, incredible intellect, mastery of manipulation, and boldness of action, this character is a show-stealer, demanding your reverence at every turn. The term "Magnificent Bastard" was first used by General Patton in reference to Erwin Rommel in the film Patton, upon realizing that he was facing a man who literally wrote the book on deceptive warfare. It acquired its current meaning courtesy of Lionel Luthor of Smallville, who was given this nickname by the Television Without Pity boards.

So what makes a character a Magnificent Bastard? Let's break it down:

Other common aspects of a Magnificent Bastard include being a Large Ham, a Sharp-Dressed Man, Wicked Cultured, Crazy Awesome, and Dangerously Genre Savvy.

A key difference that separates the Magnificent Bastard from other character tropes like the mere Manipulative Bastard or The Chessmaster is the Bastard's willingness to step onto the playing field in person. The risks are obvious, but the strategic advantages are numerous.

While usually an antagonist, especially if he's the Big Bad, the Magnificent Bastard can be aligned on either side of a conflict. Hell, he's so amazing he tends to forgo the idea of good and evil all together, instead following his own agenda, choosing to help whichever side will further his goals. However, it's true that his penchant for manipulation at the expense of others means it's common for him to be a Villain, Villain Protagonist, or at least an Anti-Hero, but purely heroic examples exist. Either way, he's almost always in charge of whatever organization he's involved with, or might as well be.

Aside from all the various aspects which come together to define the Magnificent Bastard, compare and contrast the Smug Snake, who may once have been a Magnificent Bastard in the making but fell short due to his own arrogance. When a villainous Magnificent Bastard becomes so over the top that he is no longer believable, then he becomes a Villain Sue (a regular Mary Sue for the heroic version). Also compare the Guile Hero, who uses cleverness, trickery and manipulation but lacks the flair and depth of-planning to elevate him to Magnificent Bastard status. Despite the term, he is not likely to be a Bastard Bastard, thanks to that person's inherent daddy issues, but there's nothing preventing him either.

Bonus points if at one point he or she (more commonly he) offers the enemy a Xanatos Gambit choice, and gives a Slasher Smile.

Rarely a Complete Monster, because audiences are likely to find it harder to admire such a character, but some bastards are so magnificent that they can get around this. Being a Smug Snake is a common trait of bastards trying to be magnificent.

As Willing Suspension of Disbelief and popularity can vary from person to person in an audience, Your Mileage May Vary as to which characters qualify for the title or fall under some other trope such as those stated above. Check this page out if you want to Write a Magnificent Bastard of your own.

No real life examples, please; it's problematic to call people this outside of works of fiction.

Examples of Magnificent Bastard are listed on these subpages: