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All The Tropes is not just about tropes and the works that use them. Frequently information about an author, actor, director, producer, mangaka, composer, animator, developer, or other creator will be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have Creator pages.

These pages document information about creators pertaining to their works and the tropes they use. Any creator can have a page if someone is willing to make it.

Creator pages are created with the Creators Page template. This template automatically lays out the proper structure for a creator page, and assigns it to the Creator category. We also have several other templates -- such as {{actorroles}}, {{discography}}, and {{creatortropes}} -- especially designed for use on Creator pages.

Note that not all pages about people will fall into this category. Some, such as The Presidents, are Useful Notes and/or Historical Domain Characters. Unlike TV Tropes, though, we count performers of all stripes -- including musicians, bands, and professional wrestlers -- as Creators.

What can go on creator pages

An overview of works they've created. A simple bulleted list of works they've been involved with is usually a good place to start.^[1]
- An index. Some creator pages use their bulleted list of works as an index for those works. This is usually reserved for higher-level creators like Video Game Companies. Examples include Valve Software and Dark Horse Comics.
Tropes that appear frequently in their works. If a creator has a Signature Style, their creator page is a good place to talk about it. For example, Michael Bay's page lists tropes like Stuff Blowing Up, Summer Blockbuster, and Technology Porn.
Trivia about them. We have lots of tropes and trivia that can legitimately apply to creators, like Dyeing for Your Art, Trolling Creator, Pen Name, Creator Breakdown, and Author Existence Failure. Most of these are okay to include on a creator page, or on their Trivia subpage as appropriate.
Conversational Troping. Normally, we don't trope Real Life people. But creators often give interviews, or tweet, or other such forms of Word Of God, and they often talk about tropes. So if they're discussing, conversing, lampshading, or invoking tropes, those tropes are fair game for their page.

What should not go on creator pages:

Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character. Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to Real Life people. We've had a lot of Square Peg, Round Trope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply No Real Life Examples, Please to creators. If it seems harmless, it might be overlooked Just for Fun, and there is an exception for Conversational Troping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something best avoided.
Tropes that apply to individual works they've created. Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to one work they've made, please list it on that work's page instead.
Creator Bashing. Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. It's okay to have problems with their works, but that doesn't give you a license to abuse a creator. Please keep it reasonably neutral. If it can't be kept neutral, and/or descends into an Edit War, All The Tropes may have to lock the page -- or worse, delete it and then lock it. We don't want to have to do that. Don't make us.
Subjectivity and YMMV. We don't list YMMV items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list Audience Reactions or YMMV for a creator.
Drooling. In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are. This is not okay. It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated.

↑ If one or more of their works does not yet have a wiki page associated with it, please list them as Red Links to make things easier in case the page gets created in the future.

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-All The Tropes is primarily about [[Trope|tropes]] and the works that use them. However, oftentimes information about [[Authors]], [[Actors]], [[Directors]], [[Producers]], [[Mangaka]], [[Composers]], [[Animators]], [[Video Game Companies|game developers]], or other creators can be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have [[Creators]] pages.
+All The Tropes is not just about tropes and the works that use them. Frequently information about an [[Authors|author]],  [[Actors|actor]], [[Directors|director]], [[Producers|producer]], [[Mangaka|mangaka]], [[Composers|composer]],  [[Animators|animator]], [[Video Game Companies|developer]], or other creator will be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have [[Creator]] pages.
+These pages document information about creators pertaining to their works and the tropes they use.  [[No Such Thing As Notability|Any creator can have a page if someone is willing to make it.]]
-Creator pages get the "creator" [[What Page Types Mean|page type]]. We have an index for creators; it can be found [[Creators|here]].
+Creator pages are created with the [[MediaWiki:Creators|Creators Page template]].  This template automatically lays out the proper  structure for a creator page, and assigns it to the [[:Category:Creator|Creator]] category.  We also have several other templates -- such as <code>{{tl|actorroles}}</code>, <code>{{tl|discography}}</code>, and <code>{{tl|creatortropes}}</code> -- especially designed for use on Creator pages.
-These pages document information about creators pertaining to their works and the tropes they use. [[No Such Thing As Notability|Any creator can have a page if someone is willing to make it.]]
-Note, however, that not all pages about people will fall into this category. Some, such as [[The Presidents]], are [[Useful Notes]] and/or [[Historical Domain Character]]s. Others are pages for [[Musicians]] or [[Professional Wrestling|professional wrestlers]] that, while they may look like creator pages, are actually work pages for documenting the tropes used in their performances, respectively (with the page type "work", not "creator").
+Note that not all pages about people will fall into this  category. Some, such as [[The Presidents]], are [[Useful Notes]] and/or [[Historical Domain Character]]s. '''Unlike [[TV Tropes]], though, we count performers of ''all'' stripes -- including [[Musicians|musicians, bands,]] and [[Professional Wrestling|professional wrestlers]] -- as Creators.'''
-=== What can go on creator pages: ===
+== What can go on creator pages ==
+* '''An overview of works they've created.''' A simple bulleted list of works they've been involved with is usually a good place to start.<ref>If one or more of their works does not yet have a wiki page associated with it, please list them as [[Red Link]]s to make things easier in case the page gets created in the future.</ref>
+** '''An index.''' Some creator pages use their bulleted list of works as an index for those works. This is usually reserved for  higher-level creators like [[Video Game Companies]]. Examples include [[Valve Software]] and [[Dark Horse Comics]].
+* '''Tropes that appear frequently in their works.''' If a creator has a [[Signature Style]], their creator page is a good  place to talk about it. For example, [[Michael Bay]]'s page lists tropes like [[Stuff Blowing Up]], [[Summer Blockbuster]], and [[Technology Porn]].
+* '''Trivia about them.''' We have lots of tropes and trivia that can legitimately apply to creators, like [[Dyeing for Your Art]], [[Trolling Creator]], [[Pen Name]], [[Creator Breakdown]], and [[Author Existence Failure]]. Most of these are okay to  include on a creator page, or on their Trivia subpage as appropriate.
+* '''[[Conversational Troping]]'''. Normally, we don't trope [[Real Life]] people. But creators often give interviews, or  tweet, or other such forms of [[Word Of God]], and they often talk about tropes. So if they're [[Discussed Trope|discussing]],  [[Conversed Trope|conversing]], [[Lampshaded Trope|lampshading]], or [[Invoked Trope|invoking]] tropes, those tropes are fair game for their page.
+== What should ''not'' go on creator pages: ==
-* '''An overview of works they've created.''' A simple bulleted list of works they've been involved with is usually a good place to start.<ref>If one or more of their works does not yet have a wiki page associated with it, please list them as [[Red Link|redlinks]] to make things easier in case the page gets created in the future.</ref>
+* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to  [[Real Life]] people. We've had a lot of [[Square Peg, Round Trope]] issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply [[No Real Life Examples, Please]] to creators. If it seems harmless, it might be overlooked [[Just for  Fun]], and there is an exception for [[Conversational Troping]] as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|best avoided]].
-** '''An index.''' Some creator pages use their bulleted list of works as an index for those works. This is usually reserved for higher-level creators like [[Video Game Companies]]. Examples include [[Valve Software]] and [[Dark Horse Comics]].
-* '''Tropes that appear frequently in their works.''' If a creator has a [[Signature Style]], their creator page is a good place to talk about it. For example, [[Michael Bay]]'s page lists tropes like [[Stuff Blowing Up]], [[Summer Blockbuster]], and [[Technology Porn]].
+* '''Tropes that apply to ''individual'' works they've created.''' Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as  a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to ''one'' work they've made, please list it on that work's page  instead.
+* '''Creator Bashing.''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks.  We're not here to hate on people.  It's okay to have problems with their works, but that doesn't give you a license to abuse a creator.  Please keep it reasonably neutral.  If it ''can't'' be kept neutral, and/or descends into an [[Edit War]], All The Tropes may have to lock the page -- or worse, delete it and ''then'' lock it.  We don't want to have to do that.  Don't make us.
-* '''Trivia about them.''' We have lots of tropes and [[Trivia Trope]] that can legitimately apply to creators, like [[Dyeing for Your Art]], [[Trolling Creator]], [[Pen Name]], [[Creator Breakdown]], and [[Author Existence Failure]]. Most of these are okay to include on a creator page, or on their [[Trivia Trope]] subpage as appropriate.
+* '''Subjectivity and YMMV.''' We don't list [[YMMV]] items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list  [[Audience Reactions]] or [[YMMV]] for a creator.
-* '''[[Conversational Troping]].''' Normally, we don't trope [[Real Life]] people. But creators often give interviews, or [[Twitter|tweet]], or other such forms of [[Word of God]], and they often talk about tropes. So if they're [[Discussed Trope|discussing]], [[Conversed Trope|conversing]], [[Lampshaded Trope|lampshading]], or [[Invoked Trope|invoking]] tropes, those tropes are fair game for their page.
+* '''Drooling.''' In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are.  [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|This is not okay.]] It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated.
+{{reflist}}
-=== What should ''not'' go on creator pages: ===
+[[Category:{{BASEPAGENAME}}]]
+[[Category:Administrivia]]
-* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to [[Real Life]] people. We've had a lot of [[Square Peg, Round Trope]] issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply [[No Real Life Examples, Please]] to creators. If it seems harmless, it might be overlooked [[Just for Fun]], and there is an exception for [[Conversational Troping]] as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|best avoided]].
-* '''Tropes that apply to ''individual'' works they've created.''' Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to ''one'' work they've made, please list it on that work's page instead.
-* '''[[Creator Bashing]].''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. Multiple creator pages, including [[Uwe Boll]] and [[Microsoft]], were sent to the Permanent Red Link Club on [[TV Tropes]] because editors just couldn't resist spewing bile; we ''really'' don't want to have to do the same thing here. Please keep it neutral.
-* '''Subjectivity and YMMV.''' We don't list [[Your Mileage May Vary|YMMV]] items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list [[Audience Reactions]] or [[Your Mileage May Vary|YMMV]] for a creator.
-* '''Drooling.''' In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are. [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness No Prudishness|This is not okay.]] It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated.
-{{reflist}}
-[[Category:Wiki Policy]]