Special:Badtitle/NS90:User talk:NoxiousSludge/You dropped an F bomb on me?/reply (2)

I didn't mean to say flat out "you don't understand this trope" - that's what some snobs on TV Tropes would say. I said "trouble grasping the trope", which doesn't mean that at the most you're not trying, because you are and have been doing an overall good job. If I came off as condescending, I'm very sorry. :(

What I was meaning to say is, regardless of the scale of one's actions and how hateful they do or don't come off, a villain is an undisputed example of this wiki's version of this trope if they line up with the given criteria. Tucker is definitely an example in the manga and Brotherhood though not in the 2003 anime, while Envy is definitely an example in the 2003 anime but not in the manga and Brotherhood. We view them as Monsters in both versions, but they only match the criteria to the letter in one version or the other.