Special:Badtitle/NS90:Talk:Complete Monster/Batman Arkham Series/Non-Examples who should NOT be added (3)

Killer Croc: He does appear to meet most of the criteria, but there are two important things to remember regarding old Waylon Jones: one being that his genetic condition has wreaked havoc on his brain and has caused him to degrade into a more savage and bloodthirsty state of mind, so his moral agency is questionable and it's not known how much of his attitude comes from being truly evil or due to being very mentally unstable. Second: he also has a very valid Freudian Excuse as he's been viewed as an abomination by pretty much everyone his whole life and has been treated horribly by those around him, from his abusive aunt to the staff at Arkham.

Harley Quinn: Yeah... no. She's a lot more violent here than in most incarnations, but she still truly loves the Joker and is shown to get along well with Poison Ivy, freeing her from captivity when she didn't need to. There's also the fact that the games themselves recognize her as being ultimately another victim of Joker's, just a very dangerous and mentally unstable one with the Arkham City DLC painting her as.

Calendar Man: He does come off as pretty creepy and shows no remorse for his many heinous crimes, but the problem with him is that they're all offscreen and we only know about them thanks to his stories where he reminisces on them.

The Riddler: Even in Arkham City where he's definitely at his worst, he still not only fails to measure up to other villains, but possesses an arguably valid Freudian Excuse. Even though he is confirmed to appear in Arkham Knight, it's very doubtful that he'll qualify there, unlike Hush, who at least has potential.

Hush: Fails the heinous standard compared to other low-level villains, though the upcoming Arkham Knight may give him a shot since his plotline was never fully resolved and thus makes it possible for him to appear there (With his status as an ally of Scarecrow's in the comics making it a possibility).

Bane: Fails the heinous standard, and isn't treated as seriously as other villains by Batman who is more than willing to help him out so long as Bane doesn't pull any funny business.

Quincy Sharp: While he does meet the heinous standard,

Black Mask: For once, he doesn't get to qualify! In Arkham Origins, Even if his attitude changed in later games, he completely and utterly fails the heinous standard later on and doesn't really do much of anything.