Complaining About Complaining



"McKenzie: And now you're complaining about me complaining! Griffin: You just complained about me complaining about you complaining."

- Sims Big Brother 5.

Complaining About Complaining is Exactly What It Says on the Tin: when members of an open forum (be it online or in person) complain about a topic to such a degree that other members, aggravated by it, then complain about the content of the complaints and/or how they are crowding out all other discussion. The problem can easily become recursive, as each round of complaints may engender a new round of further complaints, until no other traffic exists except complaints about one level or another of the now-cascading exposition of dissatisfaction.

Sometimes lower levels of a complaint cycle exist just to amuse the complainers and perpetuate the cycle.

This trope covers all instances of complaints related to complaints -- but not simple, basic complaints, like the ones at the very top of a stack of recursive complaining. This can be a Sub-Trope of Hypocritical Humor, except when it's serious.

Film

 * Bob Roberts: "But they complain and complain and complain..."

Live-Action TV

 * Monty Python's Flying Circus seemed to like this one:
 * "I think all right thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not, and I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."
 * "I'd like to complain about people who hold things up by complaining about people complaining. It's about time something was done about it." (Cue 16-ton weight.)

New Media

 * This is how many Flame Wars get started, usually in a couple of ways.
 * 1) Someone makes a criticism (different from 2 in that there is actually a reason). Large numbers of people tell them to just shut up. The first person tries to justify their claim. Flame war ensues.
 * 2) Someone outright states they don't like the show for very little reason, or complains for the sake of complaining. People then attack the complainer for genuinely complaining. Usually both groups have at least some people who can't let it go and continue to fight while losing whatever reason was behind it (usually just flaming the other side). Back and forth flame war ensues.
 * 3) Someone complains/flames about the fans themselves. Napalm Drop Instant Flame War.
 * The Onion says it best.
 * With YouTube's change from a five star voting system to a simple 'Like/Dislike' option, expect to see various comments with "[number of dislikes] people are [negative object related to the video]."
 * Some online forums will ban people for posting their ignore lists (often used to not-see people who complain too much). Ergo, the moderators are forcibly complaining about people spitefully complaining about people endlessly complaining.
 * Tropes sites:
 * TV Tropes: 'This trope is just Complaining About Shows You Don't Like.'
 * Complaining About People Not Liking the Show
 * And ofcourse every other It Just Bugs Me page will have someone complaining about all the complaints going on in that page.
 * The article you're reading right now is complaining about complaining about complaining. Congratulations TV Tropes, we've just divided by zero :)
 * And the passage above is complaining about complaining about complaining about OH SHI-
 * The (no longer extant) Just Bugs Me page about "School" had someone coming up with reasons to dislike school (Which may or may not apply to them), in which someone responds by complaining that they're just complaining for the heck of it. Without, of course, knowing how much of a problem it was. (As if they went to a perfect school) It used to be much messier, complete with an Overused Running Gag about "Learn to box" and "You'll get expelled for that".

Newspaper Comics

 * Calvin and Hobbes: Calvin complains about people who can't let one of their pet peeves go... in a rant that lasts for three whole panels

Video Games

 * In MMOs with heavy chat traffic, it's not unusual to see people spamming, complaining, or otherwise being annoying. However, alerting that player that they are now on an Ignore list or are being reported to GMs gets you the treatment of a tattletale in preschool.
 * Of course many of them are pretty much joking around anyways so it's hard to say who legitimately reports people for spamming to a GM.

Western Animation
"Captain: Damn it! I swear to God I will turn this ship around. Slaves: That works. Okay. That'll teach us a lesson. Yeah, that's even better. Captain: All right, if that's what you...waaait a minute."
 * In a Family Guy Flashback Twist, a slave on a ship heading for America keeps whining to the captain, "Are we there yet?"

Real Life

 * Politics:
 * Global Politics: '[media source, leader, etc.]'s disparaging depictions of [country, organization, etc.] play into the hands of [enemy group].'
 * Local politics: 'Instead of proposing real solutions, my opponent has focused his campaign on spreading false statements.'
 * National politics: 'X is not going to run a negative campaign like Y does.'
 * Parenting: [Children complain] => 'I'm going to stop this car right now if you two can't get along!'
 * Everyone who lives in Britain does this. We complain about the queues, queue up to complain about X; and then complain about having to queue to complain about X, why do we have to queue? All this queueing just to complain about X is simply horrendous! We should complain about this.
 * The "You're not allowed to complain about X because these people have it worse" card.
 * Then there's the various Unpleasable Fanbases—you know who they are by now—which does in fact have a fair number of level headed, open minded fans. After a while, these level headed fans will finally get worn down about the seeming unending pessimism within the fanbase and make a comment about it. Which of course leads to flame wars—often between the offending complainers and the blind fanboys rather than the original poster—which lasts long after the original poster just gives up. This is one of the many, many reasons these fans tend to be embarrassed to admit being fans.
 * Subverted occasionally in the case of someone who doesn't complain about a thing which everyone is complaining about and is then called delusional or a sheep or immature/uncritical thinker or fan-boy/girl/human for liking the show/book/artist/fanfic, For just enjoying the output, for being chilled about what they like. Complaining about not-complaining.
 * In the US legal system, there exists a term called "vexatious litigant". This applies when somebody keeps filing suits over frivolous complaints until there are so many complaints about his frivolous suits that a judge formally tells him to cut it out.