Special:Badtitle/NS90:Forum:Trope Talk/Cleaning up of questionable tropes/reply (12)

Okay. Bear with me a little bit, because there is going to be a debate here.


 * Affably Evil: Yes, but still. Why would you associate yourself with someone who do bad things? Regardless on how you look at it, villains aren't good friends to be around, due to them being a bad influence to others.
 * Alternative Character Interpretation: Okay. But I think this trope requires some cleanup of bad examples if people on the internet don't really discuss that much about the characters as the examples made them out to be.
 * Ambiguous Disorder: Agreed. Although I noticed some villainous examples in this trope. I think it's better off for villains to be considered psychopaths rather than be interpreted as mentally ill.
 * Shell-Shocked Veteran: I do see your point. But PTSD cannot be assoicated with criminal behavior. By saying that PTSD is the reason behind someone doing bad things, it will feed into the myth that eveyone with PTSD is going to become a psychopath who shoots everyone in sight.
 * The Woobie and it's subtropes: Agreed. At best, this trope would requires cleanup and at worst, better off completely deleted together.
 * Jerkass Woobie: This particular subtrope irks me the most. Why would you empathize with a jerk who's clearly written to be unlikable? It seems strange that some stories these days have certain characters written to be deeply flawed, and yet, still goes out of its way to make the audiences sympathize with them.
 * Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds: Same as above. We're not supposed to feel pity for the villains just because of their tragic pasts. We're supposed to held them accountable for their inexcusable actions.

By the way, if I wanted to discuss more tropes, do I continue in this thread, or do I start a new one?