Total Drama Island/Fridge

Fridge Logic
~ztyran ~hillraiser2011
 * I found a bit of fridge logic in the special between Island and Action. Courtney discovers that the island is fake, yet we clearly see in the extreme sports challenge that they are on an island as the guy would have noticed it from the air.
 * How come only interns can die if nobody else can?
 * If Dawn can read auras and people in general, shouldn't she have known that Scott would be troublesome and untrustworthy to begin with? She even seems to kick herself in  for not realizing this sooner.
 * Going by this logic, she should've also seen that he was going to . ~dibdobs
 * If Dawn can read auras and people in general, shouldn't she have known that Scott would be troublesome and untrustworthy to begin with? She even seems to kick herself in  for not realizing this sooner.
 * Going by this logic, she should've also seen that he was going to . ~dibdobs
 * No, no. Dawn can read auras; she's certainly not psychic. Basically, she could tell that Scott was bad news from the beginning, but there's no way she could tell what's going to happen to him in the future.
 * But she predicted
 * She predicted something bad would happen, but never said what.
 * She might have known, but thought that
 * What happened to the Barf Bags Full Of Airline Issued Peanuts in Total Drama World Tour?
 * If there's a Hurl of Shame in Revenge of the Island, then what happened to the Boat of Losers?
 * If the boat in the last episode of World Tour was the Boat of Losers

Fridge Brilliance

 * In Total Drama Island, Heather engineers Justin's elimination very early on. Seems completely unfair and unprovoked at first, but recent episodes have allowed Justin to show his true colors, as a conniving monster who takes advantage of girls by using his good looks. Now it all makes sense; Heather recognized him for what he was, and snuffed him out before he could manifest any sort of threat to her or the team. My hat's off to you, Heather! - Ian
 * Justin ultimately failed because for all his good looks, he lacked the work ethic to back it up.
 * When I first learned who Sierra was, I groaned out loud. A female character that seemingly only exists to stalk writing.
 * Owen, Duncan and Heather seem to have a lot in common with each other They all won one season, along with many other things.
 * 1. They have outranked all others at least once, but
 * 2. They qualify for all three seasons.
 * 3. They have always been on the same team with one another with one of them being on the opposing team.
 * Owen and Heather were on the Screaming Gophers while Duncan was on the Killer Bass in Season 1.
 * Duncan and Heather were on the Screaming Gaffers while Owen was on the Killer Grips in Season 2.
 * Owen and Duncan were on Team Chris Is Really Really Really Really Hot while Heather was on Team Amazon in Season 3.
 * 4. All three have further appearances in Revenge of the Island after the beginning.
 * 5. They are the only people to be involved in all three horror-themed challenges with one every season. Though Duncan didn't actually compete in the third one, capturing him was the challenge.
 * 6. They all have a relationship with others. Owen has a friendship with everyone else, while Duncan and Heather have conflicts with everyone else.
 * 7. They all made it to the final four in Island.
 * 8. They all made it to the merge more than once.
 * 9. They all made it to the final five more than once.
 * 10. They all received the last onscreen symbol of immunity in the season where they won.
 * While watching "I See London..." this troper wondered why Alejandro seemed so upset about Noah not trusting him and calling him an eel, even though Heather hadn't trusted him from the beginning and had called him much worse insults. Then later this troper realized that while Heather had simply seen through the facade and then told him right away, Noah had done something entirely different. See, Alejandro's entire tactic is fooling people into believing he was friends with them, and he thought that he had already managed to trick Noah. But now it's revealed that Noah was only pretending to fall for Alejando's "friendship" tactic, which means Noah had managed to defeat Alejandro in his own game, and THAT was what ticked Al off the most. -Musouka
 * See, this troper just chalked it up to the Ho Yay and Foe Yay, but that works even better.
 * Given that Noah was actually the only member of the team Alejandro tolerated, that might have played a part as well, but like I said, it's mostly because of the whole "Beaten in his own game" issue. -Musouka
 * It's possible Heather's Designated Villain status had something to do with it, too. The Cassandra Truth moment in the episode where LeShawna was voted off was probably a great early sign that she wouldn't pose too much of a threat. Of course, the other Amazons weren't that easy to fool either, but they weren't anywhere near as vocal either way...
 * Alejandro's dad is an ambassador, so the family travels a lot. That's why he was able to a) speak in Japanese for no apparent reason, and b) understand Jerd's clusterfuck of an accent.
 * It seems that Tyler's horrified expression during his Stealth Hi Bye to  is just there because...well, because it's hysterical. But then I remembered that   -Latia
 * At first Cody's Jerkass behavior at seems like a double standard given how he reacted to Trent's and his actions in Greeces Pieces and then it hit me: The circumstances are totally different. With Trent, Cody realized that not only she really liked Trent but that Trent generally cared for her and that he had no chance and decided to do the right thing and help him out. But -Mogo
 * I had a little bit more afterthinking of this last night, -Mogo
 * In her bio, Heather says she wants to take over Europe. This may have been added because the producers knew that part of the viewers of the show would be Christians and, in almost every apocalyptic romance, like Left Behind, the antichrist would always take over Europe, so this was included to boost her villanious status in the first season. Bonus with her brother being named Damien - Not JM Keynes.
 * Many people were upset about Trent and Gwen's breakup, but in his bio, it's said that Trent had a lot of girlfriends before, so he may have a problem with unstable relantionships. Their breakup followed this logic.
 * Bouncing off this logic here, and remembering things from 'Island', Trent's craziness doesn't seem to come out of nowhere anymore. In the episode where Cody helps Trent and Gwen get together, when Cody tells him that Gwen likes him, Trent's first response is "If you're lying, I could easily rearrange your face. You know that, right?" Hardly what one would expect to hear from someone so cool and collected,... unless he has had relationship trouble in the past, which one could surmise from his online bio. From this, one could imagine that he believes that it was his fault for past breakups, even if it wasn't. Now, for Trent's obsession with the number 9, the only explanation we get in show about it before the Aftermath in Action (where it's revealed that 9 is simply his lucky number,) is Harold saying that he noticed Trent doing it around the time he also noticed that he was crushing on Gwen. Duncan's subsequent theory on the combination of hers and Trent's names leaves Gwen to believe that 9 was formed after he fell for her. However, to me at least, When Trent and Gwen arrived on the Island in the very first episode, he already was giving her nice looks, meaning that he liked her as soon as the show began. Since it could have happened from the very beginning, the Aftermath explanation that he had always considered 9 lucky doesn't seem as much as a Retcon anymore. Couple this with the fact that he and Gwen didn't get to spend more than a couple to three weeks tops together, (Courtesy of Heather causing his elimination,) he probably still doesn't know her inside and out. So, when he is separated from her in Action, and seeing that she is now on the same team as Duncan, who she shares an obvious affinity with (leading to its conclusion in World Tour,) Trent is quite worried that she would fall for him. So his craziness is him not obsessing over Gwen so much, but desperation over not wanting to endure breakup again, and doing everything he could to prevent that. Without a successful wingman to let him know what he was doing wrong, all he could do was rely on luck. - Grithalmur
 * And if the writers have planned this before TDA, I mean, they created Trent with the sole purpose of being a Shallow Love Interest to Gwen and then be dumped by her.
 * It is persumed that Trent hates Gwen for dating Duncan behind his back in TDA. The only revenge that Trent got on Gwen was writing a hate song about her, dating Katie and Sadie to spite Gwen, and then letting her be hated among the viewers.
 * Why was Alejandro such a Villain Sue? It can be interpreted that Chris and the producers were editing the footage to make him appear better than everyone (which incidentally stopped when Duncan returned to the game, since he's an equally Genre Savvy character. ~Cheap Sugar
 * Alejandro manipulating Harold into eliminating himself in Super Happy Crazy Fun Time Japan. At first, I couldnt understand why he would care which member of Team Victory got voted off since the team would still be one member short. In fact, it was revealed the member who was to be voted off was DJ whose strength would have been a great asset for future challenges and been a loss similar to how Heather tricked the Killer Bass in TDI into voting off Eva who was one of the most strongest and athletic players. But then I realized something, out of the members of Team Victory, Harold was the highest ranked one in TDA managing to get up to the final five. His whole character is based on being a Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who when times gets rough manages to pull his team up with a hidden skill. Heck, he was responsible for scoring the first two wins for the Killer Bass with skills they hadnt known before and pulling them out of their first losing streak. Despite this no one takes Harold seriously. Of course, Alejandro would have watched Total Drama before participating and been able to analyze the characters beforehand, gauging their strengths and weaknesses and which ones would likely be an obstacle. Alejandro recognized him as a threat and decided to eliminate him early before he could pull off any wins for his team. For this troper, this seemed to establish Alejandro's manipulative nature and ability to read people since he saw a potential threat that no one else did. In addition, Harold's elinimation allowed him an opportunity to work on Leshawna without a suspicious cruch questioning his moves and attempting to drive him away
 * Not only that, but given that Harold knew quite a bit about Japan and probably knew some (or maybe a good amount) of the Egyptian Language, who's to say he wouldn't also know a good amount about the other countries and cultures they'd visit in the future?
 * Been thinking way too much lately, but something that bugged me was how the Courtney/Duncan/Gwen love triangle was able to cause so much damage? Couldn't any of the three have talked it out with each other or used the other campers as mediators to help do so? But then I realized, every possible mediator had been eliminated or disabled by this point. From the people eliminated up to these events occurred, Harold, Bridgette, Leshawna, Lindsay, and DJ, generally all kind, easy-going people, could each have acted as a mediator or go-between to help lessen or repair the damage the love triangle would cause. By the time Duncan returns and everything hits the fan, none of them are left. There was still the possibility of Owen doing something to help mediate things too, but that was the purpose of Izzy and Noah's eliminations. With the two of them gone, Owen was lost in grief and worried Alejandro would take him out next. Coincidence? Probably. It's true that Chris had no way to know that Duncan would come back at that point, but looking at it from this perspective, the triangle was deliberately triggered so that everyone who was left in the either game had something to do with the triangle or cared too much about themselves to do anything to lessen the damage.
 * Could be possible that Cody, Sierra, or even Heather can help, but here are the reasons, Sierra is willing to get Gwen off the show while Cody is an Asshole to Duncan. But Heather is the only chance Gwen has to be saved, unfortunately that got ruined when Courtney got Heather jealous by flirting with Alejandro as part of his own plan. So basically, the true complete monster of the love triangle is Alejandro, not Duncan, Gwen and Courtney.
 * Another one: In the last episode of Season 1, Gwen's insult to three-quarters of the entire cast was a big-time Out-of-Character Moment that confused many fans. Now I just realized: those comments were set up so we would get angry at her and feel more satisfied when
 * At first, when I found out there were aliens in the series in the show, I was disturbed. But then I remembered everything they went through, like when Justin was pushed off the tower by Courtney, he would have died when he landed. Let it sink in for a moment.
 * There's also the fact that the show has featured Yetis, talking worms, remote-controlled clouds, sabretooth beavers and man-eating baby goats. When you take that into consideration, aliens seem almost normal.
 * While Courtney practicably wanted Gwen dead after the DXG kiss, Trent is just lying back like he doesn't care. In TDA, He was near insanity. I don't get it! I was expecting something like Trent cutting a wire of a headlight and make fall on Gwen. Somebody tell me.
 * Well, the TDA special showed that Trent had moved on and had started dating other girls, so maybe he's just realized he shouldn't just keep obsessing over Gwen. He did call Duncan an idiot during one of the Aftermaths, though, which means that maybe he's not entirely over it but has decided to be mature about the situation.
 * This troper was a bit confused when in the TDA special they never said why Duncan lost his money. Duncan acted as if he had lost it, saying "This is gonna be my season!" and the fact that nobody referenced to his million inferred that he already lost it, not to mention the many fan theories about how Beth winning was the intended ending, and him losing the money in the custody dispute over the raccoon. However, if you think back to his first elimination in World Tour, he gets pushed off the plane in Egypt. He reappears in London, a continent away. How did he get there? He used the million he never lost. The show didn't forget to tell us he lost the money, they neglected to tell us he still HAS it!
 * To a degree that makes sense, but it brings up another bit of fridge logic. If Duncan needed to use his own money to get to London, how did ALL the other eliminated contestants get to the set of the TDWT Aftermath? Did they happen to have a few hundred bucks and the right documents they'd need in order to get on a plane to go home? Who knows.
 * Well they are celebrities in-universe. They probably had some loyal fans who were willing to help them get back to Canada. That's why Duncan had to go into hiding in the first place.
 * Actually, if I remember correctly, the creators mentioned that there was an area called the "Helipad of Losers" in each location, where a helicopter would take the contestant to "a waiting area".
 * Right, there was a "Helipad of Losers" where they took the ex-contestants to the aftermath place, or whatever. Duncan ran away from the show, so he was never picked up by the helicopter, therefore he had no means of getting around other then his own money. Since he wasn't on the show, he probably settled down in London after having his own little world tour, and told his parents he was still on the show so he could keep trevelling, and when he got to London, Chris got word of it and used the challenge as an excuse to get him back (and lose Ezekiel).
 * I don't know why it took me this long to realize this (probably because I just forgot about it), but Sierra is the company that created Leisure Suit Larry. So, in a way, Sierra has a meaningful name--she loves Cody (and knows enough about him to have invented him herself), who fits the archetype of the protagonist perfectly.--PPPSSC
 * Another one from : Alejandro kissed Heather and it looked not romantic. This of course, could be showing that even someone as allegedly hot as Alejandro, even someone as charming as Alejandro, could be a terrible kisser. It's a brilliant subversion of a trope so omnipresent we forget it's there. Notice that up until that moment, he only kissed through the air, excluding the Bridgette thing but that was a girl-initiated smooch (a.k.a. a press of the lips, not a particularly passionate kiss with tongues and saliva).
 * What are the two things people complain about the most in season three? The Zombie Zeke subplot and the GDC love triangle. When did these things start happening? In the episode where Noah was eliminated. His departure was symbolic of the show's descent into madness, and possibly Foreshadowing what was to come.
 * I like it. A mixture of Cerebus Syndrome and Shoo Out the Clowns... When you think about it, Noah's elimination was when the humor was kicked out to make room for more drama- a very clear example of Cerebus Syndrome, at least until Sweden came around, then the series got back to normal.
 * At first I thought that pairing Izzy with Ezekiel and to a lesser extent Noah in fanfics was nonsensical, but then I realized that she's supposed to be nonsensical (I still ship her with Owen though) - truteal
 * Well, any pairing with Izzy is a Crack Pairing, I supposed she must have a big boyfriend turnover rate.
 * At first, This Troper didn't think much of Trent being a Shallow Love Interest and bordering on The Generic Guy in TDI. Then I saw this promo made back when TDI was still in development under the title Camp TV. In this promo, Beta!Trent is introduced as being "the normal guy". The writers had planned for Trent to be The Generic Guy and Only Sane Man all along! Not a particularly shocking discovery, but I digress. - Qmark
 * Also, in the original pilot, Geoff was Gwen's Shallow Love Interest, so when they made Gwent a couple, they made Bridgette Geoff's Shallow Love Interest so they wouldn't feel sorry for Geoff. - truteal
 * A lot of people have responded negatively to Trent breaking up with a girl via a text message (sent by Justin, no less) in the Celebrity Manhunt special. But remember in "Haute Camp-ture", when Trent announced that he was in love with Gwen? His breakup with her may have made him lose his belief in true love, and now he's just a womanizing celebrity. Perhaps a Deconstruction of the Nice Guy trope?
 * Everyone must have  Why? Well, how else would they film all of the musical numbers? The show is real in its own universe, so they must have done the show, and once they recovered did the music. Does that make any sense? Probably not. I wish I could explain it better... Jcop1997
 * That's what I thought too... but I sincerely doubt it, since many of the songs have plot-relevant consequences, or clearly happen in real time and can't be replicated (Eine Kleine, Paris, most of Gypsy Rap, Condor, Greek Mix); and of course the Aftermaths are established as live in-universe. It's more like the fantastic parts of each number (the band in Shear the Sheep the disco scene during Gwen's Face, and the puppet scenes from This is How We Will End It) were set up after each individual episode, possibly before the character is voted out. Or for some it's obvious in-universe special effects, like in What's Not to Love, Versus, or Lovin' Time. Then again, I'm not sure how to explain . ~Grace
 * Alejandro's Villain Song 'This Is How We Will End It' has a puppet show as its theme, controling puppets of the female characters he's elminated. This fits him perfectly, as he's a master manipulator who played everyone like puppets.
 * And there's his muppet. Weird... but it's another kind of puppet, so it fits in too. I think.
 * Possibly because he presents himself differently than how he really is and, in effect, the Alejandro the other characters see the most of is just another puppet being controled by the 'real' Alejandro, whose an evil Manipulative Bastard who is playing them all like puppets from behind his own puppet persona he controls directly (the muppet being controled directly by his hand while the other puppets were controled by strings).
 * ^ The above theory makes even more sense when you see the Alejandro puppet singing while the REAL Alejandro is also singing! (And not just for "special effects")
 * Sierra doesn't let on being Genre Savvy in show, only in confessionals...however, this easily makes her more Genre Savvy as she knew Al was concentraiting on eliminating actual threats. Had she shown how Genre Savvy she was, he'd have seen her as a threat and elminated her early, but she always was able to tell what kind of person he was, so she acted like she was a moron. But she still provided enough to her team she never caused their loss in a challenge, meaning they didn't mind keeping her on. This is why she lasted to the final four, no one except Cody wanted to vote her off because she didn't seem to be a threat or a liability.
 * Hmmm... maybe. The point of her Genre Savvy behavior was that it revolved around knowing how the previous contestants played the game - specifically not to trust Heather and that she could easily latch onto an alliance with either Gwen or Courtney. Al was correct in saying that Sierra knew nothing about him, and she could've suspected nothing until the final five or so. After all, she did fall for his scheming in the New York episode, where she already showed that she would've known better if Heather or Courtney tried the same tactic. As for flying under the radar, that's a difficult strategy to pull off (Noah's the only one who did it knowingly, and Beth and Owen are the only ones who've succeeded at it). She probably just isn't much of a Magnificent Bastard to actively run the game when her main goal is to have Cody by her side.
 * True, though one could argue that she was doing it to avoid Heather eliminating her, as Al and Heather are both Not So Different in many respects.
 * In "One Flu Over the Cuckoo's", a member of the winning team would get a chance to hang out with their friend/family member of their choice. Duncan's "friend" was his parole officer. At first, this seems like a joke in that this was the only person they could trust Duncan to be around. But if you notice, the parole officer has Tyler's old design. In the original Camp TV promo, Duncan and (old) Tyler were shown to be friends. So it makes sense, Duncan and that guy have been friends ever since the beginning! - philipthepatsy
 * Sierra has been said to act like someone in a Self Insert Fanfic. Being the crazed Fan Girl she is, she probably did write a few of those. She's just bringing them to life now that she's actually in the game
 * Gwen's confessional callout in the final episode of Island: it seemed originally like a way to make us hate her so that Owen could walk away with the money, or at least a ridiculous Out-of-Character Moment. The brilliance is that it might just be a Shout-Out to a confessional that Boston Rob did all the way back in Marquesas where he insulted all his new tribemates.
 * You know how Total Drama World Tour, was supposed to be called Total Drama: The Musical, but because of fan rejection it was changed? Well, I realized that the new name has a double meaning; they are indeed travelling around the word, but the Tour part can also refer to a concert tour! This way, the original name and the whole concept are being kept together!
 * Me again! In Total Drama Revenge of the Island we have 13 new charcaters, one of which (Ann Maria) is based on Snooki from MTV's Jersey Shore. And then we have Mike, who not only looks exactly like one of the actors from MTV's Disaster Date (same hair,same stature and same skin color), but also has a split personality disorder, which could refer to how the actors on Disaster Date always play different people. This way, there are 2 MTV shows Total Drama is spoofing this season!
 * Duncan's "Took a Level in Jerkass" makes more sense in that in Season 1, he was more of a "Jerk with a Heart of Gold" and due to that, people outside the show thought of him as a pansy and those who previously feared him, no longer feared him and due to this, he decided to act more like a "Jerkass" to make up for it.
 * I was watching the first episode of Total Drama Island and I realized that Trent was the Ninth Camper to reach the Island. Even Chris says "Contestant Number Nine is Trent." Could this be foreshadowing Trent's Obsession with the number Nine in Total Drama Action? If it is, I've got to tip my hat to them.
 * Leshawna's Elimination in TDA. Duncan is the main reason why Leshawna was eliminated. He suggested that the alliance vote off Leshawna. He even got Justin, and Courtney to join his vote. Then, Duncan and Courtney were shown convincing Harold to vote off Leshawna.
 * I know a few people were confused at Ezekiel's first elimination. "There were 6 guys and only 5 girls, how did Courtney not get voted off?" but then you may realize-not every guy voted for Courtney. Tyler, DJ Duncan and Geoff probably did, since DJ and Geoff probably listened to Duncan's advice to vote her off and Tyler got nervous that she randomly suggested he gets the boot, Harold probably voted for Duncan because he was smart enough to realize they may have a conflict later on, and Ezekiel? he voted for Eva, because she strangled him and he was terrified of her. If all the girls did vote for Ezekiel, it would be Zeke-5, Cortney-4, Eva-1, Duncan-1, which is why Duncan and Eva were last to recieve a marshmallow before Courtney!
 * Several people wonder why Gwen is subject to most of the in-universe hate over the love triangle in World Tour. The reason is that she kissed, and stole, the boyfriend of someone who was supposed to be her friend. On top of that, Heather kissed Trent in front of Gwen in Island, so she knows the pain that Courtney is going through. However, where as Heather kissing Trent was a stunt, Gwen and Duncan became a couple. Nice Job Breaking It, Hero.
 * And considering Courtney found out about Harold's vote rigging later on, who's to say everyone never found out about her huge rant in the season 1 finale. Plus, she clearly had no resentment for how heartbroken Trent was with her freindship with Duncan in season 2.
 * Why is everyone on whatever team Scott is on holding an Idiot Ball, while the people who aren't get evicted? Because this is a stealth parody of Survivor: Samoa - which, at the time, had the stupidest cast in the history of Survivor. The people who weren't outright Too Dumb to Live got voted out by the Devil in Plain Sight.
 * When I saw Dakota at first, I thought her to be a shallow character, an Attention Whore and so, at first. But then I realized something: in her entire life she was treated as a shallow character by everyone surrounding her, so when Sam started to respect her, she felt respected and her character started to gain more depth. It shows that even shallow characters can be good characters and can be considered an anvilicious way to tell Give Geeks a Chance.
 * In Up the Creek, Gwen saying that Cody is like an annoying little brother makes more sense when you realize that she actually does have a little brother, who showed up in her video message from home.

Fridge Horror

 * In Chinese Fake-Out, Blainley an Courtney were tied for votes and they both had to leave because of budget issues. If this same thing ever happens with a whole team, then they would all have to leave in the same episode if they all have one vote! Yikes!
 * In the last episode of World Tour after  What the hell happened to Blaineley?
 * Made even scarier in the season 4 premiere, where  BLAINELEY IS NOT THERE.
 * In Total Drama: Revenge of the Island, we have a new contestant, Mike. One of his personas is a grumpy old man, Chester. What happens to Mike when "Chester" dies?
 * Just because one of his personalities has the mindset of an old man doesn't mean that Mike physically ages whenever Chester's in control. That's like saying Svetlana actually causes Mike to change his physical gender. Chances are Chester will live just as long as Mike will.
 * "Backstabbers Ahoy"- . Chef then puts her in her bag,throws it in the catapult, and Chris launches it away. It's a plastic black garbage bag she was just thrown into, full of sticks and seashells. And she's thrashing the entire time...
 * In "A Mine is a Terrible Thing to Waste," Chris uses a bomb to permanently seal the entrance to the mine.
 * Plus Lightning.
 * If he can survive World Tour, he can survive an episode of Revenge of the Island.
 * He actually managed to dig his way out in The Enchanted Franken Forest.
 * In "Grand Chef Auto", Mike finally overcomes his Multiple Personalities. During his triumph, a shadowy silhouette of Mike with a Slasher Smile shows up for a split second. Maybe it was another personality he has yet to overcome?
 * An interview with Mike's voice actor, Cory Dorlan only reenforces this, with Cory stating that if he could pick a new personality, he'd be a "total crazy guy like The Joker or The Monarch . I think someone over the top and addicted to mayhem would be great. It's such a departure from Mike and his other personalities." Oh Boy.