Watchmen (comics)/YMMV

Tropes found in the comic:

 * Alas, Poor Villain:.
 * It's hard not to feel a bit sorry for the very anti-heroic Comedian, either, as we see how his attempts to connect with failed in the past, and that at the end of his life he's become a sobbing, remorseful wreck.
 * Alternative Character Interpretation: All of the primary characters.
 * Eddie Blake/The Comedian in particular, he.
 * Is Doctor Manhatten truly unable to alter the future or is he just so much of a fatalist that he won't even make the effort?
 * Broken Base: The upcoming prequel comics, being made without Moore or even Gibbons's involvement, have been the point of division with many fans. Is this just a pale attempt at making Watchmen a Franchise Zombie, or a good way to reinterpret the story?
 * Draco in Leather Pants: Rorschach is a sympathetic character but not a role model. The Comedian is also subject to some of this.
 * Ensemble Darkhorse: Rorschach is much, much more popular than Alan Moore intended.
 * Fan Myopia: Around the time the movie came out, fans of the comic were openly discussing the ending and other plot points without spoiler tags, assuming anyone interested in the franchise had to have read the comic.
 * Genius Bonus: Several. "At play between strangeness and charm", seen in the lab where Osterman worked, is a pun on quantum mechanics, just to say one.
 * Heroic Sociopath: Rorschach and the Comedian, though the Comedian's case is arguable -- both the Heroic and Sociopath parts, in fact.
 * Hilarious in Hindsight: So, a US-USSR nuclear war is inevitable, Adrian?
 * In fairness, it is pretty explicitly stated that the big difference between our world and that of Watchmen is Doctor Manhattan. He tilts the economic and military balance of power so far in America's favor that the Soviet's feel far more compelled to be on a war footing than they did in our world. Then throw in Richard Nixon with a god in his pocket for about four terms and it's easy to see how the antagonism level might have gotten so severe.
 * Also,.
 * In one of the text supplements, Ozymandias talks about making a Saturday morning cartoon show.
 * It Was His Sled: This got particularly bad around the time of the movie.
 * Japan Loves Rorschach: Rorschach is one of the few western comic characters you can find stuff of on Pixiv. We don't know why either.
 * Jerkass Woobie: Rorschach. The Comedian to a lesser extent.
 * Logic Bomb: Possible explanation for why ..
 * Magnificent Bastard: Ozymandias, especially after The Reveal.
 * Memetic Outfit: Rorschach's entire ensemble, but especially the black-and-white mask.
 * Memetic Mutation: "RRAAAARRL" and "Hurm."
 * "I did it thirty-five minutes ago."
 * "Rorshach's journal. Unusual event happened, must investigate further."
 * Misaimed Fandom: Some people take Rorschach and The Comedian seriously.
 * The Scrappy: Laurie/Silk Spectre II has a noticeably smaller fandom than the rest of the Crimebusters.
 * Seinfeld Is Unfunny: Watchmen influenced a ton of other works. These works fleshed out the tropes Watchmen introduced and put them in the forms that are now extremely familiar to readers. A superhero like Rorschach who goes around killing people was shocking in the 80s, but after several decades of the Punisher, he seems tame and reasonable by comparison. The notion of flawed heros like the Comedian was very fresh in the 80s, but it's par for the course these days. Dr. Manhattan pissing all over the status quo with his superpowers by altering history is far less amazing today than when it was first introduced in an era of Reed Richards is Uselss. Watchmen is still a great story, but reading it is no longer the paradigm shifting experience it was for comic fans in the 80s.
 * Squick: Rorschach's backstory. Also, there's just something odd about.
 * Tainted By the Preview: General opinions on the prequel comics? Not very positive.
 * Weird Al Effect: With the possible exceptions of The Question, Captain Atom & Blue Beetle, hardly anybody remembers the old Charlton characters the cast of Watchmen were based on.
 * Weird Al Effect: With the possible exceptions of The Question, Captain Atom & Blue Beetle, hardly anybody remembers the old Charlton characters the cast of Watchmen were based on.

Tropes found in the film:
"Laurie: Whatever happened to him?
 * Broken Base: Watchmen fans are split. Those who haven't watched it, however...
 * Crosses the Line Twice: How Rorschach dealt with Captain Carnage, a man who pretended to be a supervillain because he had a fetish for getting beaten up.

Dan: Oh...Well, he pulled that on Rorschach, and he dropped him down an elevator shaft.

[ Beat]

[Both laugh]

Laurie: [still laughing] Oh God, that's not even funny.

Dan: Well, it's a little funny."

"Wally:What I said was 'God Exists, and he's American'. If that statement starts to chill you after a couple of moments' consideration, then don't be alarmed. A feeling of intense and crushing religious terror at the concept indicates only that you're still sane.
 * Draco in Leather Pants: Rorschach, . And how.
 * Dull Surprise: Malin Akerman, as Laurie Juspeczyk, gives rather ... measured responses to being on Mars and to being told the world will end.
 * To be fair, she'd been dating Doctor Manhattan for some time. That sort of thing was probably expected around him, to some degree.
 * Ensemble Darkhorse: Due to being played by the handsome Niall Matter, Mothman has seen a surprising level of attention in the fandom recently, in spite of not really being all that important.
 * Every One Remembers the Stripper: Judging from some message boards, you'd get he impression that the movie is 2 1/2 hours of blue penis closeups.
 * Fashion Victim Villain: Subverted -- like David Bowie in Labyrinth, Matthew Goode as Ozymandias has the uncanny ability to be put in some rather ridiculous outfits (purple suits? Egregious floppy Eighties Hair? A supersuit with nipples?) and nevertheless look good enough to make otherwise rational straight women and gay men Squee their brains out from all the Perverse Sexual Lust he creates. Then again, he comes dangerously close to a male example of Power Hair.
 * Fetish Retardant: The sex scene with Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" playing in the background. Zack Snyder claimed that it was deliberate, since the big-wigs wanted a steamy sex scene -- they decided to placate them, while turning up the cheese factor Up to Eleven.
 * Fridge Brilliance: During the opening credits, it has Neil Armstrong on the moon and says "Good Luck Mr. Gorsky." There's an urban legend that his neighbor said the day the neighbor kid went to space is the day his wife would give him oral sex. Since this film takes place in an alternate timeline, it goes from confusing to clever.
 * Genius Bonus/Viewers Are Geniuses : The symbol Jon draws on his forehead is a representation of a Hydrogen atom. Hydrogen was the first element to be created and is the single element from which everything else in the universe comes. Which is why it's "something [he] can respect" versus something "the marketing boys" think up. The comic gives a brief explanation; the film puts the scene in but never explains it.
 * Hilarious in Hindsight: The businessman's line "'Free' is another word for 'Socialist'" in regards for energy. Right around the time the film was made, people were calling Barack Obama's energy policies such as support for cap and trade just that.
 * Wally Weaver's statements on Doctor Manhattan could also count as this.


 * Ho Yay:
 * Dan and Rorschach get more scenes that can be interpreted as this in the film.
 * Veidt around just about everyone but Rorschach.
 * Memetic Mutation:
 * "X's Journal, March 11th, 2009..."
 * Doctor... Manhattan's... PENIS!!!
 * Adrian Veidt and his "Boys" folder seems to be getting a certain measure of notoriety, too.
 * As is Matthew Goode's profanity-laden OOC statement how people who hated the film can all "line up and suck [his] dick", because he "[doesn't] give a fuck".
 * "I love the smell of giant blue penis in the morning."
 * It's the Same, Now It Sucks: While some liked how it stuck to the comic, it's often criticized for that very thing.
 * Memetic Outfit: If you don't mentally picture Veidt in his supersuit, you probably picture him in his black turtleneck, purple blazer, gold lapel pin and tight black pants, even though that's the only time in the film (as opposed to the graphic novel) where he wears anything that flamboyant.
 * Nightmare Fuel:
 * Arm + Buzzsaw
 * Face + boiling oil
 * Theatrical Cut: bullet + leg. The director's cut adds bullet + fingers to the scene.
 * Perverse Sexual Lust: and the Comedian have gained a lot more fans of their physical appearance since the film.
 * Seinfeld Is Unfunny / Older Than They Think: both because of the legacy of the comic... and because the previous year another extremely dark comic book movie was released; not to mention another movie about outlawed superheroes earlier...
 * Stupid Sexy Flanders:
 * Ozymandias, damn you, Ozymandias!
 * Stupid sexy sadistic The Comedian
 * The Problem With Licensed Games: The End is Nigh was an alright Beat'Em Up in the vein of Dynamite Cop, but other than the characters and setting it didn't really have much to do with Watchmen. The standard opinion was that it's So Okay It's Average.
 * They Changed It, Now It Sucks: One of the two biggest complaints about the movie (the other being that they DIDN'T change it)
 * Uncanny Valley: Dr. Manhattan again, though it may be deliberate.
 * Unfortunate Implications: In the comic, the Silhouette was murdered by an old adversary seeking revenge. In the movie, her murder is changed to a homophobic hate crime.
 * Viewers are Morons: Why  was changed to.
 * We also have a scene of The Comedian  rather than just implying it.
 * To be fair, this would just be Viewers Are Geniuses instead if they didn't change it.
 * To also be fair,  was mostly implied in the written segments of the book, and that was the whole point of
 * What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?: Hey a comic book movie! Happy birthday Billy!

Tropes found in the unproduced Sam Hamm script:

 * Hilarious in Hindsight: One particular line - what, you can't see it? Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?
 * WTH Casting Agency: This is the face of Rorschach.