Special:Badtitle/NS90:User talk:NoxiousSludge/Ghetsis/reply (3)

Ghetsis did groom N into being a perfect servant by making him think that humans only abused Pokémon and made them suffer, and revealed to N that he was indeed using him, which is pretty bad. But other than that, he just insults him and at worst, calls him an inhuman freak.

Basically, he first sought to simply persuade people into giving up their Pokémon by tricking them into thinking that it was the right thing to do, though he secretly wants to make it to where only people like himself can own them and rule the world unopposed. In the sequels, he merely settled for raining down ice all over the Unova region by using a weapon that draws upon power from a powerful Pokémon called Kyurem (That is said to be in pain due to Ghetsis' machinations) which would put people in danger. As for what he did to the hero, he wasn't going to kill them despite what others may say, but he was going to freeze them alive (Which can be viewed as worse than killing seeing as how he's going to keep them alive with the purpose of having them watch as he conquers the world).

He's bad (I'll admit it, my summation of him earlier was due to me feeling rather snippy)... but I have a hard time agreeing with keeping him the more I look at his competition. At least two other villains (Cyrus from Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and Lysandre from X and Y) have omnicide as their goal, and surpass Ghetsis when it comes to nastiness in various ways. Torturing a Pokémon in order for it to serve his will? Cyrus did it to three Pokémon instead of one. Tried to take over the world? Unlike Ghetsis, Lysandre (Who doesn't qualify due to regretting having to kill Pokémon along with humans) and Cyrus want to annihilate all life on the planet, and remake it in their own selfish visions. When I look at these two, I have a harder time justifying keeping Ghetsis around seeing as how he comes off as more of a selfish, generic villain when compared to omnicidal terrorists.

And I'm not saying who because it's a waste of time arguing their case.