Special:Badtitle/NS90:User talk:NoxiousSludge/Are we feeling better now?/reply (15)

I know, right? I'm thinking if maybe I should do the same thing with other controversial candidates - what do you think?

I'll have to look back on the debates on TV Tropes, but was every bit of evidence brought up? I only recall 32 Footsteps and his cronies deeming him not heinous enough to qualify, others arguing that he does meet the qualifications, but the naysayers being stubborn asses until eventually more people were persuaded to vote against him staying on the trope. I still remember Footsteps' condescending remark about how the Pokemon fandom clearly doesn't know truly heinous evil when they see it. While lots of fanon interpretations of Ghetsis go way overboard (feeding people to his Hydregion, skinning/killing Pokemon, physically or sexually abusing N, and having a body count of 13 A through M infants is completely ridiculous and not supported by how canon Ghetsis is presented at all) but if they saw him as pure evil, it's probably because the things he does, regardless of how small scale, show him as being the sort of person who IS pure evil.

N's full name was confirmed to be Natural Harmonia Gropius a long time ago, but Ghetsis' full name was never used until Pokemon Special, where he announces himself in that name during the climax.