Special:Badtitle/NS90:Talk:Complete Monster/Kingdom Hearts/Non-Examples who should NOT be added


 * Maleficent - An arguable contender in her original movie to be sure, but here she's not only outclassed by Xehanort and his other incarnations (all of her worst actions were part of Ansem's plan) as well as two other Disney villains (who are as heinous as their setting allows), she also shows some noble traits such as standing in the Nobodies' way for Sora at Hollow Bastion, making a heroic charge with Pete in the World That Never Was, and even willing to tolerate Pete at all despite his vast incompetence (contrast that to the original movie, where she blasted all her minions for incompetence!)


 * Xigbar/Braig - While more of an evil dick than most other members due to being in on Xemnas' bigger plans, he doesn't do enough to come close enough to be heinous enough to qualify. He's also shown to get along well with some of his co-workers. Xehanort's influence also calls his moral agency to question.


 * Marluxia - Doesn't commit enough heinous atrocities to qualify compared to Xehanort or even Maleficent, and arguably has altruistic qualities since he rebelled against the Organization as he didn't believe that Xemnas had their best interests at heart, which was entirely correct.


 * Larxene - Someone on TV Tropes once attempted to add her due to all her Kick the Dog actions, but despite her sadism she doesn't qualify for the same reasons as Marluxia, and is barely even on the Moral Event Horizon. She also had Jerkass Woobie tendencies, shown clearly in her Alas, Poor Villain death scene.


 * Saix - The same person on TV Tropes attempted to add him due to all his Kick the Dog actions, but he is clearly shown to be a Tragic Monster who genuinely yearns to have a heart so that he can feel and be complete, which gave him an Alas, Poor Villain death. He's also shown to have altruistic qualities, having been Axel's friend and plotting to take the Organization from Xemnas too for reasons similar to Marluxia. As of 3D, he's part Xehanort, which calls his moral agency into question.


 * Xaldin - He was a huge prick to everyone and what he did to the Beast was terrible, but he ultimately doesn't pass the heinous standard, and his moral agency is questionable since without a heart, Dilan seemed like a perfectly decent guy.


 * Shan Yu - Unlike in Mulan, where he's clearly defined as an egotistical, barbaric monster, he comes off as a Generic Doomsday Villain here due to his lack of characterization and on-screen heinousness.


 * The MCP - For similar reasons as to why he doesn't qualify in his home movie, he's simply a corrupt A.I. gone out of control.


 * Oogie Boogie - Even less likely to qualify here than he was in his home movie, being Played for Laughs quite often, especially in KH2.


 * The Evil Queen - Doesn't commit heinous atrocities on-screen, and in a great example of a setting's standards differing from her source material, her wanting Snow White's heart removed doesn't come off nearly as heinous because taking hearts is a common thing in the KH Universe.


 * Lady Tremaine - Is merely an abusive Jerkass who let her envy and pride go out of control and ultimately consume her.


 * CLU - Same as the MCP, he's an A.I. gone rogue who is doing what he's programmed to do, just at a horrific and malevolent level. He's also notably less heinous than in his movie.