Special:Badtitle/NS90:User talk:Sky Knight Subaki/About Ardos

I already made an argument against him here: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Talk:Complete_Monster/Pok%C3%A9mon I've heard the arguments before but to me all I get is that he's a big meanie-head who had one Moral Event Horizon moment towards the end of the game and was unrepentant for his crimes - I don't think that's quite enough to write him off as being among the worst of the worst. The game gives us no reason to believe he'll reform, but it also gives us no reason to believe that Greevil did not make him what he is today, and yet Greevil gets a redemption in the end. In the first game, Evice and Ein topped the heinous standard (with Nascour lumped in with them as sort of the go-between) and neither of them were redeemable, but in the sequel, Greevil tops the heinous standard as Cipher's leader but is redeemable. This stacks the standards of the narrative against the notion of Ardos being a Complete Monster and he does nothing to really stand out as being worse than his competition.