Special:Badtitle/NS90:Talk:Complete Monster/Umineko no Naku Koro Ni/"Examples" that should NOT be seen here.


 * Eva-Beatrice - The attempt at including her here was absolutely horrendous. It's stated that she has Ambiguous Innocence, meaning that her childishness and psychopathy prevents her from grasping morality the way most people do. That disqualifies her. It went on to emphasize her heinous actions for why she counted, but actions alone do not a CM make: you need to lack redeeming features as well. (Plus, are her actions even heinous by the series' standards?) It then stated that she actually did care about Ange, cue Love Redeems. If she's redeemed, that goes against the trope's very nature. And yet someone still had the gall to state "But does this really count for the people that she killed before this was revealed?" Oh, get over it. She is NOT an example at all.
 * Erika - As gruesome as she is, she fails the heinous standard, all her crimes are extensions of Bern's, she has sympathetic qualities due to her Inferiority Superiority Complex, is friends with other characters, and is redeemable in the end.
 * Ange's Parents - The entry only mentioned that they were horrible parents, not even describing the massacre they were at fault for. And even then, they loved each other and Rudolf truly cared about Battler, not to mention they both had Pet the Dog moments.