Special:Badtitle/NS90:Forum:Wiki Talk/The new editor is an abomination/reply (5)

It wasn't opt-in for me. It just appeared by itself. Yesterday I managed to find the checkbox, unchecked it, saved my change, saw the checkbox unchecked on the page, and then the link to VisualEditor was still there when I refreshed another page. Today I refreshed a page and the link was still there. Moreover, when I went to Preferences, I found that the checkbox had turned itself on by itself. Luckily then I managed to turn off VisualEditor, at least for now.

Another problem is that VisualEditor is turned on for those not logged in. I think that definitely shouldn't be the default.

Something is clearly very wrong, but at least those annoying previews that could be turned off but didn't stay off through a browser restart had vanished with the introduction of the new editor. I found out that the page previews were a beta option too, and another thing I had never turned on and just assumed were a new feature imposed on everyone. But now that checkbox had conveniently unchecked itself like it had apparently once checked itself.