Special:Badtitle/NS90:Talk:Complete Monster/Pokémon/Examples that should remain here.


 * Ghetsis - While he might not come off as bad as Cyrus and Lysandre due to a lack of omnicdal tendencies and shooting for a comparatively fairly standard villain goal on a lesser scale with lesser resources to accomplish his objectives, he ultimately fits the bill based on the criteria. He sure as hell has no redeeming qualities, is never painted positively and always treated seriously, earns the revulsion of other characters, has no good excuses, justification, or backstory behind his villainy whatsoever, his actions (which include elaborate mental and emotional child abuse, abusing Pokemon en masse to manipulate his adopted son into becoming his pawn, deceiving many followers and an entire nation of people into acting against what they'd actually want while believing they're doing what's right all so that he can reap the benefits, exploiting the very nature of Pokemon and society in the Pokemon world itself. torturing a Pokemon while using it as a weapon to hold over the masses and demonstrating it's power by blasting heavily-populated areas with it, planning to freeze over an entire continent in order to extort power from the masses, attempting homicide on kids at least twice, relishing in various forms of torture so that his victims can cross the Despair Event Horizon, and intending on enslaving all Pokemon and people through his oppressive regime as ruler of the world) are heinous enough by the standards of the work and the franchise within the space he occupies and the means he has to work with, he's thoroughly unrepentant for all his crimes and is ultimately incapable of showing any sort of humane decency. His one supposed Pet the Dog moment doesn't even count as that since the Shadow Triad are fanatical servants who don't really define what "saving them" constituted and we never see it on screen anyway, thus it does not stack up against Ghetsis' on-screen villainy. A full, more detailed argument for his inclusion can be read here.
 * Ein, Nascour, and Evice - All three are equally culpable in Cipher's evil atrocities in Colosseum and are all the ones keeping the "machine" running, as stated in their entry. None of them showcase any mitigating or redeeming features, and even if they were charged with their tasks by Greevil, they're ultimately the ones directly responsible for the suffering of all Pokemon twisted into mindless destructive weapons, and the suffering of people who end up attacked or inconvenienced in any way by said Pokemon. This is heinous enough by the franchise's standards to qualify them for the trope. More detail on the matter can be read here.
 * Darkrai - He's not a Generic Doomsday Villain since he has a defined character - it's just one that's thoroughly malevolent and devoid of any positive qualities. He has no Freudian Excuse or motivation besides For the Evulz, has no moral agency issues, and his actions (playing Gods against themselves, causing a Time Crash, creating a very bad future, torturing others in nightmares, dropping kids into eternal nightmares, soul enslaving, brutal homicide attempts, manipulating the heroes into being Driven to Suicide, and attempting to ravage the entire planet and cover everything in darkness) are some of the worst out of any villain in the franchise. Finally, he does not undergo a Heel Face Turn - he's mind-wiped into a blank slate who's basically forced to act good from now on. He, along with Purple Eyes, are the only Pokemon villains so bad they required divine intervention to stop them from doing any further harm.
 * Hunter J - The only argument against her inclusion would be that she's a low-scale bounty hunter sharing a story with an Omnicidal Maniac and his group of terrorists, but not only is she as awful as her goals, scale, and resources allow, but she actively assists Team Galactic in their actions and thus enables them in their plans that could lead to universal destruction, but she simply doesn't care - she doesn't see the value in life and is only interested in lining her pockets. This makes her equally heinous by the standards of the work, and that aside, she hits off the trope's criteria in committing deplorable atrocities against other living beings (up to and including attempted murder of other people, even children), showcasing no redeeming qualities or excuse for her actions and behavior, being feared and hated by other characters, and being so unrepentant and irredeemable that she has to get Killed Off For Real.
 * Cyrus (anime) - The mitigating factors the character possesses in all other media are severely downplayed in his depiction on the show, and his final moments where he disregards all other people because his perfect new world is "his alone" absolutely destroy any semblance of Well Intentioned Extremist motives for his attempt at using the powers of time and space to decimate the entire universe and create a new one in it's place with him as it's God. As a result we're left with a thoroughly vile and unpleasant character who is simply depraved, narcissistic, and pure evil, with no Freudian Excuse given and atrocities committed in the name of a selfish, petty goal. His actions were already truly heinous by the series' standards and any objective standards, so the removal of redeeming qualities and framing of his character as an inhumane monster who deserves to meet with a horrible demise puts him in the trope. A full, detailed explanation for why other incarnations of Cyrus do NOT qualify can be read here.
 * Iron Mask Marauder - Similar to Hunter J, he's a low level thug who goes all out with the resources he has at his disposal, which include Dark Balls designed to warp Pokemon into Shadow Pokemon (a truly heinous thing by the franchise's standards that actually debuted here) and intends on shooting for a larger scale to take over both Team Rocket and then the entire world via threat of force using Celebi's powers. He does everything out of greed and desire to dominate, has no redeeming features, no justifications or Freudian Excuse, attempts to do harm to Pokemon and children alike, and is clearly beyond redemption in the end.
 * Dr. Yung - He has enough of an irredeemably evil characterization and a rapsheet of disturbingly malicious and life endangering crimes committed For Science! and out of egomania to qualify him. While the rapsheet might not be impressively large, he intended on unleashing his Mirage Pokemon's power upon the world in order to prove the worth of his dangerous research and experiments. He's suitably heinous by the standards of the work, and aligns with the criteria enough to pass the trope.
 * Sird - We don't know much about her at this point, but what we do see of her paints her in the light of being horrifyingly vile, malicious, and self-serving. Her presence casts a dark shadow over the tone of the narrative, and other characters see her as being pure evil - Riley can even sense that she's pure evil. She just barely manages to pass the criteria for qualifying, and her cruel actions being driven by such petty goals really seals the deal.
 * Ghetsis (anime and manga) - Since he's a notable example in the games, his anime incarnation averting a CM status is made note of. As for his manga incarnation, he's an even more solid qualifier than even his game incarnation seeing how his evil deeds and intentions from the games get elaborated on (he admits outright that he plans to kill Black and his Pokemon in order to cover up N's defeat to the public of Unova), he's given new crimes that are all rooted in Pokemon-on-human violence and are surprisingly dark and unpleasant even for this manga (notably having Eelectross electrocute Black, having his Pokemon beat down the Gym Leaders and having one threaten an innocent hostage, trying to have Hydregion incinerate Black, ordering the Sages to use their Pokemon to kill a whole bunch of defiant trainers, and having Beheeyem knock Black into the reverting Light Stone so that he's trapped within), and his depiction emphasizes his sadism by ramping up his Faux Affably Evil facade. As far as Big Bads in this series go, he's quite easily the vilest. He still hits every criteria and much of the same details of game!Ghetsis' qualifications apply for him here as well.
 * DPA!Charon - Like J and Sird, he manages to qualify despite sharing a story with an Omnicidal Maniac because his crimes are both done with full use of his resources and playing field, and his motives behind said crimes are entirely selfish, petty, greedy, and despicable without justification. He commits truly heinous acts such as attempted suicide bombings and Shadow Pokemon experiments without any remorse, all to line his pockets and prove his greatness to the world. He's reviled by everyone else in-universe, lacks a Freudian Excuse, shows no redeeming qualities or mitigating factors aside from being Laughably Evil, and he consciously refuses to redeem himself because he doesn't believe in the Power of Friendship - and seeing as friendship is a central theme in this manga, this really sets him apart from all the other characters, even Cyrus, who tried to destroy the universe and play God yet still found it in his heart to repent for his sins and embrace friendship with others.