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Syphile's last words will be something to the effect of "Tell Ariel...."(Dies)

That way, no one will know what her sentence ended with. Like if it was either "that I still fucking hate her guts" or "I'm sorry".

Ash'waren will be the next Val'Sharess

It's been hinted at already in very early info, and now that we know she's really a dark elf she has a more legitimate claim on the title. And she could probably just brainwash everyone into accepting her if she really wanted to.

Kalki is the daughter of Khaless, Snadya'rune's protector twin

This one is actually pretty plausible, and would explain the rather vague Word of God explanation that she both is and isn't Snadhya's. Presumably Khaless had Kalki and was then killed (willingly or unwillingly) by Snadhya, who then adopted Kalki and used her to set up the Nidraa'chal. Considering how long the coup was apparently planned it's not implausible that Snadhya waited a few decades for Kalki to mature.

The first child created for Snadhya did survive..

  • ... And the Jaal'darya held onto it in case Snadhya ever turned on them, essentially meaning that somewhere there's a third Sarghress sister out there.
  • Alternatively it was a male...and that was why it was deemed a failure...
    • Unless either Snadhya or Mel had a Y chromosome to throw into the mix or someone else added one (assuming drow biology works the same way) that would be next to impossible. Though maybe questioning the mechanics of Homosexual Reproduction is a bit of a lost cause...
      • But wasn't Mel'arnach's egg used for only the second attempt? She recalls that Wi'am Val'Jaal'Daarya was the one who approached her for one of her eggs in exchange for a biogolem. Maybe Jaal'Daarya science is different but unless the egg split in vitro you need one egg for one child. I thought for the first attempt it was implied that Snadhya'runes had used another potential "father".
        • This was discussed on the forums and the consensus was that she probably didn't take just one egg (it's not like Mel would have been in a position to notice the number taken), or that, again, the biology is different. It's also not specified what order the events happened in and if the first attempt did use Mel's DNA for it.
      • This page mentions rumors about what the Jaal'Daarya do with their sons. Either drow biology is different, or it's not well-known enough for people to realize the crippling flaw in that theory.

Maybe Kiel was right when she said maybe the seed didn't take Naal over completely, as once Naal is safely locked away, she then reaches for her doll of Sharess' knight.

  • The knight who fought demons until she became "a nether infested husk, guided only by her unbreakable will."
  • Maybe she'll be able to open doors a bit later...or they'll free her when things get REALLY bad. Or someone tries to deliver some bodies...

Sha'sana is possessed by Sharess

  • And, at some point, she'll call it 'my body'.

Baliir is extremely handsome

  • Because when he takes it off at least one of the bystanders think so she is blushing and the others that react are all women not counting the only male who is preoccupied by something else.

Could Blossom from the Goddess Knight Daydream storybe related to Quaintana?

  • Daydream isn't usually Canon, but considering we have a page with Diva'ratrika recalling her childhood and friends with a young Ash'waren corresponding to Faen, her Moon's Age pet feral to Melodia and her friend Blossom to Ariel. The implications are that each current character has something to do with the person Diva'ratrika is remembering-some type of ancestral resemblance etc. See Chapter 22 page 23
  • Alternately, it's Zhor who's related to Blossom. He was a dark elf, after all.
  • Blossom's red hair correlates more with the Sarghress. Zhor in the Daydream story originally had white hair as a Dark Elf. Although the above theory could be a possible Red Herring, as the character Naj'sera (one of the dark elven queens in Sharess' time) in personality is most like Quain'tana and was my original thought for who could be Quain'tana's ancestor.
    • Blossom is actually a daughter of Haiarhyn, another dokkalfar queen.
    • While its true that Blossom is canonically Haiarhyn's daughter, what the OP was suggesting was that Blossom herself might be the mother or grandmother of Quain'tana, based on the flashback from Diva/Liriel's transformation scenes. The three figures present, Ariel, Faen and Melodia are seen by Diva/Liriel as younger versions of Ash'waren, Blossom and Nana (the name of the feral Diva adopts in Goddess Knight). If however, the reader is simply going by eye and was only familiar with Day Dream, judging by the personalities of the Dark Elf queens shown in the story, one could be forgiven for thinking that Naj'sera(far left, fourth panel) would be the one who's possibly an ancestor of Quain'tana.
    • Word of God is that the Flower Queen seen in this story is Blossom, so depending on how this story unfolds this might or might not be Jossed.

The two Scourges who poisoned Kiel acted on the behalf of Ni'bai and Umpus.

They're the only members of Sene'kha’s group who still want to summon the demon god. But as long as Kiel's in charge things are a bit more difficulty, since she's strictly against it. That’s probably a good motive why they want her dead. To cover their tracks they hired the two Scourges from Nyo’ka’s group who didn’t like Kiel, anyway. It was a win-win situation: Either Kiel would die or she would blame Nyo’ka, another high-ranking Vloz in opposition to Sene’kha’s plan, and kill her.

Sure Nyo'ka makes herself suspicious after she killed one of the two Scourges and covered to other, who rat out her partner in crime. But she didn't do it because she was involved in the assassination. It's because she can't afford to lose too much members of her group. After all there is a tough competition among the summoners and she needs every follower she can gather.

Diva'ratrika had Sarv'swati with a male from the Val'Sullisin'rune clan

This would explain why Sarv'swati and her descendants have bluish-purple hair. Diva'ratrika's hair colour is purple and Ash'waren's descendants usually have some kind of blue tints to their hair. Maybe part of the peace treaty with the Sharens involved Diva'ratrika having her next child with a Val'Sullisin'rune. We saw in the flashbacks that Snadhya'rune was already an adult during the early war between the Sharen and the Sullisin'rune and as there were no other appearances of Diva'ratrika's other chidren, readers can infer that Snadhya'rune was then Diva'ratrika's only heir. Also, remember the Daydream story about the Sarghress/Sullisin'rune alliance? Re-read what the terms Ash'waren dictated to Quain'taina were and now think back to why Ash'waren may have agreed to the terms set out by Diva'ratrika after the Sharen/Sullisin'rune War and what additional benefits (if any) she may have gained.

  • From what I understand, all pure-blood Drow are born with white hair as a result of the whole biological shift caused by the caverns they live in. I think dyeing your hair in 'family colours' is just a ubiquitous tradition.
  • For the most part the above is true, but second generation drow (i.e. the first drow born in the underworld to Dark Elf parents) tend to keep some hair color, only losing it after several generations. For example because their mother was a Dark Elf, all five of Diva'ratrika's daughters would be considered Second Generation drow, but only the first two display typical Second Generation traits, such as color in their hair. Snadhya'rune's hair color is natural and the same thing appears to be the case with Sarv'swati. Sometimes Second Generation traits can pop up in later generations of drow (e.g. with Third Generation drow like Mel'arnach, whose hair alternates between white and very light purple. It seems even the comic artists can't seem to decide which color she's meant to have. References to both colors have appeared in the main story.)
    • On the other hand, now that it seems to have been decided that Sarv'swati's hair is actually purple with black tinted fringe and sidelocks, maybe Diva'ratrika had Sarv'swati with a member of the Beldrobbaen. It could be Sil'lice who's half Sullisin'rune instead, HEH HEH.

The father of Mel'arnach and Kel'noz was a member of the Siyah'Khorshed.

And it was Farasank!! Unfortunately only Mel'arnach inherited the height of both parents.

  • That would add a whole 'nother layer to some of Mel's fake!Psycho Lesbian behavior...
  • OR the father was actually Ashu'athama Sharen in a drunken one night stand. Quain'tana is so ashamed of this she has entirely wiped out the incident from her mind.
    • God, if that's true, then the Sharen/Sarghress family tree is even more twisted than we thought...
  • Take a Third Option: Maybe it was actually Rosof. Its not been specifically stated when Mel'arnach and Kel'noz were born and whether it was before the Sarghress became a Val clan or after.
    • It actually has been said that when the twins were born the Sarghress weren't yet a Val clan, and it's been implied that they were already alive by the time Quain invaded Machike.
    • After re-reading some of the earlier chapters, its also possible that both Mel'arnach's and Ariel's shapeshifting could come from a Beldrobbaen ancestor/mate of Quain'tana? Mel'arnach in Chapter 7 (?) when she shapeshifts to help Ariel looks similar to the Beldrobbaen manipulation of light and shadow by Waes'soloth and Naal'suul.

Drow and Elf ears are erogenous zones

  • As adults their ears grow to surprising lengths and unless its just how Kern likes his fae biology to work there is no reason why this should be the case. Most elves in fiction have their ears grow (albeit slanted) upwards rather than outwards. Its also surprising that during battles you never see drow or elves going for the ears they just seem to randomly be there. I'm guessing that there is some probable oomox going on here...
    • There is a wallpaper of Mel and Snadhya where Mel is biting her ear, so this might actually be canon... not to mention that Mel nibbles on Ariel's and this later gets a call back...
    • Here is another page which is probably more conclusive than the previous link 19.10.2011
    • If they turn out not to be erogenous zones, they certainly help to indicate the age range of characters. Adult drow (both drowussu and drowolath) have extremely long, outwardly extended ears, child drow have rounded, slightly upward slanting ears, teenage/middle youth drow have longer ears than child drow but not to the extent of the adults and are somewhat rounder in the face like child drow and unlike adult drow.

Kalki will betray Snadhya

Like mother, like daughter. They don't have a perfect relationship and she might eventually get tired of Snadhya's Control Freak tendencies, and either choose Mel or strike out on her own.

  • So far there hasn't been a sign that Mel would leave Snadhya's side. If Kalki's going to betray her, she has to do it alone.
    • Mind you, every time Snadhya has asked Mel'arnach to join her in her activities, Mel has either avoided the question or outright declined. This has happened three times as of now. Maybe she secretly doubts Snadhya'rune's intentions?
    • Even if the above doesn't happen, there's a good chance that Snadhya and Mel will fall out eventually, since its been stated by Mel that her desire is to live free on the surface and give birth to her future children there. Snadhya's main desire is to have "drow ruled by drow" and that means staying underground, unless she finds a way for drow children to be born overground.

Shinae will take Chrys'tel's title, rank and name before the time skip

If she doesn't die, she's somehow proven herself to Zala and truely become her daughter. For the drama and because I don't see her getting killed with out a big bang.

  • Jossed; Chrys'tel is now the overseer and spokesperson for Zala'ess. Shinae has not shown up in the main comic yet, except as a member of the Sharen-Nega loyalists' faction. Whether Shinae betrays Chrys'tel after chapter 34 is yet to be seen.

Not all the Nidraa'chal are tainted or there are ways of masking signs of tainting

Otherwise how can there be Nidraa'chal deep cover agents in every major clan? Particularly in those of the Kyorl'solenurn and the Sullisin'rune or even the Jaal'daarya clans?

  • Makes sense. Especially since it's implied that Snadhya uses Orthorbbae as a recruiting ground and would know that some clans wouldn't accept tainted members.

Tainted drow can mate with one another and thus produce tainted offspring

Not sure about this one, since in flashbacks to when she was a little kid Kiel doesn't seem to be tainted (her eyes are orange, so it's hard to tell, but they are drawn differently than a tainted character's), while it seems her mother already was, and odds are whoever her father was was also tainted.

Nau'kheol or Sarnel will be possible love interests for Ariel after the time skip

Nau'kheol for the Dating Catwoman aspect or Sarnel for the Kissing Cousins aspect. With the latter case its less likely for Quain'tana to disapprove of it considering Sarnel's bloodline, so my money is on Ariel's love interest being Nau'kheol.

Fae (Drow and Elves) are closely related to the Protoss.

  • The way Mana works is very similar to the Khala (I will admit that Protoss are more akin to reptiles than mammals, however). Maybe Fae are like the Protoss eqivalent of an Ourang-Outan.

Mel's "study group" from the Daydream story will appear in the main story...

... As Nidraa'chal. Think about it. It's said that there are Nidraa'chal in every major clan, and Mel's group was composed of girls from... every major clan. Including a Kyorl'solenurn. And who were they all recruited by? Snadhya'rune. This one is so heavily implied in the DD story that I'll be shocked if this isn't true.

  • Pretty much confirmed as of this page, since that's Sal'bara, one of the proteges.

Yafein will return...

... And he'll be tainted. Given how much emphasis he puts on growing stronger and insisting that he's not weak he'll be tempted by Emperor Pal-- er, Snadhya'rune, and get a seed to make him stronger. Said seed will later devour him.

  • Jossed, and though he has returned, he's even worse than tainted, and to quote many, many people on the site forums, he's a DOUCHE.

The Kyorl'solenurn Seers have long had visions relating to Snadhya'runes plans and are just sitting on the information until the time is right for reveal.

  • They know about her making summons out of teachers at Orthobbae and about her recruiting for Nidraa'chal members at Orthobbae, as well as her faulty seeds and this is why they have resorted to extremism against all tainted, to throw her off the trail. If they appear to be indiscriminate when targeting tainted individuals they can detect actual Nidraa'chal agents within their target groups without being spotted.
  • They also knew that the Dark Elves would eventually leave the surface for the underground due to the demon attacks, by using their farsight skills and the judicators ( really Light Elves) are doing all they can to keep the drow underground permanently. This is also why they disapprove of half breed drowussu/drowolaths because the hybrids would hinder their plans for the vanir/light elves to return to power and subjugate their remaining enemies.

The sixth daughter of Diva'ratrika (who died long before the main story began) will turn out to be important in future chapters

Why else would Kern mention it in the Orthobbae section of the website if it wasn't important? There's been no mention of a Retcon on this plotline so far and her death might explain some of the backstory to Diva'ratrika's relationship with her children.

    • Fridge Brilliance, in the new pages added to Chapter 9 in which we see how Chry'stel first met Shinae, the story Zala'ess may have been referring to could well be to Diva'ratrika's sixth daughter who was weak and could not survive without her protector twin.
    • Also as seen in the penultimate WMG below, this daughter may have been the Sharen Val assassinated by the Val'Chaitoc clan.

Yakuise and Taisei are spies for the Kyorl'solenurn in the Sharen fortress.

Makes sense otherwise why else would they be living with the Sharens and not with their own clan? Neither of them are tainted. If Yakuise is also a Val, she's likely to be Shimi'lande's daughter as well. Related to the earlier WMG about the Kyorl'solenurn it fits the theory that the Kyorl know a lot more about Snadhya'rune than they should.

Lulianne is now a Deep-Cover Agent in the Sarghress clan for Snadhya'rune

Now that she has been possessed by Khaless she'll be working for Snadhya'rune against the Sarghress to further her plans. The front cover of Chapter 32 seems to suggest this as well. When Mel'arnach and Snadhya'rune are having their discussion in the carriage, the latter's dialogue wasn't just an example of her affably evilness or her just trying to be philosophical (LOL), it was actually a Chekhov'sGun for admitting that Khaless possessed Lulianne and that being able to manipulate emotions is easy for a demon.

Shodun the Nidraa'chal is the daughter of Elham, one of Mel's "study group" friends in Daydream

  • Or she could be the daughter of Balsii...
    • Probably not, or at least not publically. Sandaur seemed pretty sure that she would help him protect Nega'fanae, and if she was Balsii's daughter he probably wouldn't have expected her to help him. Plus it's implied she's Chelian-born since she has the Chelian skintone, and Balsii's attitude is such that she probably wouldn't go to Chel at all if she can help it.

Quain'tana does not just want an heir from Mel'arnach, she wants a womb transplant

A massive stab wound rendered Quain'tana sterile and barren. Seen here, here and now here, the context seems to point to something beyond just Ariel. What else would Quain'tana want that Mel'arnach has?

  • People are convinced that Quain'tana just wants even more potential heirs, in case Ariel dies or fails.

Sharess has become the demon...

  • Discordia. Discordia is said to be a shard of a powerful Demon God from the end of the Moon Age. And the picture of the Demon God includes a Suspiciously Specific Denial footnote saying that we're seeing Kiel's imagination, not how it really looks.
  • Discordia's Old Enemy. That is, the demon Sene'kha wanted to summon using Discordia as bait. Who else could have destroyed the Demon God Discordia came from if not Sharess?
  • Khaless. She is the most intelligent and poweful demon yet seen, and her shadow form's eyes resemble the markings on Sharess' forehead.
  • Naal's Seed. Demon!Naal absorbed the Vel'Cahal doll, just like Sharess absorbed the spirit of the Vel'Cahal in Goddess Knight.
  • Sha'sana's Seed. This one was mentioned above. Sha'sana plans to bring Sharess back. Maybe when she calls herself the last caretaker of Sharess' legacy, she's not just talking about Sharess' body...

== When Sil'lice refers to Snadhya'rune "murdering her children whilst in the womb" , she really means that Snadhya'rune has found a way to taint children whilst they are still in the womb ==.

Khaless will absorb Snadhya'rune by the end of the time skip

  • Both were using each other as a means to an end, when Sha'sana says that demons rarely go to plan, she refers to Khaless having her own agenda whilst seeming subservient to Snadhya'rune. The demon's plan is to bring more of its kind to the drow world and is using tainting as a way to access vessels for its demon counterparts. When the faulty seeds start to go haywire and Snadhya'rune makes her claim for Empresshood, Khaless will completely absorb her former twin.

Laele'aell had minor empathy

  • As good a soldier as she was, the real reason she got on so well with Quain'tana was because her latent empathy helped soften her mother's attitude towards her far more than otherwise. Her minor empathic abilities also helped her to be a good leader to her Fallen Legion troops.

There will be more flashbacks of Kiel

  • In a flashback, Naal commented that Kiel seems to talk to herself a lot (please link to this if you can find it). This was chronologically the earliest we've seen her do that. It's possible that she was talking to the camera for a later flashback. A few other possibilities:
    • The author was watching her, but didn't actually put that part on the website
    • Kiel is being watched by more than one person. The others might just not be making a webcomic of it, or they might be in another universe writing their own version of Drowtales.
    • Kiel really is just talking to an imaginary friend, and the camera just moves where it is because it's the best view, like it did when she was actually talking to Naal.
    • Kiel's childhood has been written about in the members only section, and I just don't know about it because I'm not a member.

There's nothing left of Naal

The only evidence that she's still alive is that she hugs Kiel. I don't know about you, but even after being unceremoniously ripped from this reality, left to slowly claw my way to consciousness over the course of a decade, and being locked in a room for however long it was, if a girl fed me and then started crying and asked me to eat her, I'd give her a hug.

  • Jossed perhaps by Chapter 32. Naal was possessed by a glutton demon, demons which aren't considered as sentient as higher level demons such as Vel'akar like Umpus and Khaless. This is possibly why something of her still seems to exist and rationalise as if still a drow.

Balsii's "punishment" will be to be made administrator of the Surface colony

What better punishment for a xenophobe than to ship her off to a place that's completely foreign to her, and if she happens to get killed, well, tough.

The Balvhakara will be instrumental in helping the Beldrobbaen reboot their numbers

Now that we know about the kinship between the Balvhakara and the Beldrobbaen, when we next reach Chel in future chapters this issue is bound to crop up. The Balvhakara are Vals, so their status would be no barrier. There should be no problems adopting members into Beldrobbaen ranks to boost numbers, depending on the relationship between Waes'soloth and Agneya'mukhi.

The Sullisin'rune were/are descendants of the earliest ancestors of the Dokkalfar population, dating back to the first Dark Elves to exist. This means that they have the oldest bloodline of all drowolath/dark elf nations

Think about it. When we saw Ash'waren's flashbacks and the Goddess Knight story, the Thalamani refugees were shown to be somewhat shorter and paler than their Sharess'land counterparts. On average the Sullisin'rune (or at least Ash'waren is) were/are shorter than the average drow/dark elf. They also possess empathy, a trait also shared by the drowussu. Earlier on this page a troper suggested the possibility of empathy being linked to the ability of being a Seer- as a possible offshoot the latter. Who do we know possess Seer abilities? drowussu/Light Elves. The original dokkalfar were light elves who became tanned due to living in warmer climates. As the two types of elf grew more isolated, they became separate races- the light elves/vanir and the dark elves/dokkalfar. Most light elves have/had red or blonde/white hair. In the Goddess Knight story, we see Sharess' ancestor and First Empress of the Dark Elves as a red-haired somewhat paler than usual dark elf woman. In terms of height, the light elves were shorter than the dark elves and their gender variance was the opposite of that of the dark elves. Ash'waren is short for a dark elf. (The average dark elf woman was around eight feet tall.) Seven? foot tall Quain'tana towers over Ash'waren. Drowussu males are taller than their females, and unlike their drowolath cousins', their males can often be a match for drowolath females in terms of height (example, Ti'rade, who is quite tall for a drowussu.)

Most drowussu/drowolath hybrids are the result of drowolath male and drowussu female couplings

It makes sense as most drowolath females would see drowussu males as weak and would hardly have the spare time to meet with drowussu males (who are also in templar/warden relationships with their females). This would also explain why high ranking hybrids such as those in the fallen Dutan'vir clan, emulate the gender dynamics of drowussu. Most hybrids also tend to look more drowussu than drowolath as well, probably due to the mother's genetics in-universe being stronger.

Kyo'nne is with the Duskians

Many readers were puzzled by the fact that Kyo'nne doesn't appear in chapters 33 and 34, despite it being set in Nuqrah'shareh. Well, maybe she is there, just not with the Illhar'dro. The last time we saw he she was fawning over a Nuqrah'sharehan boy who looks a lot like the Duskian who greets Chrys. Same eye and hair color. So maybe Kyo's been there the entire time, and the fact that the Duskians are culturally more like drowussu appealed to her since she was still getting over Shan. Word of God is the story will shift back to Nuqrah at some point, and when it does we'll either see Chrys visit the Tower of Dusk and be surprised to see her old friend or the Duskians will send an envoy, who happens to be Kyo.

There will be nine arcs in total to the Moonless Age webcomic

This is less WMG and rather a plausible observation. It makes sense as nine is supposed to be an important number in drow culture and we are already on the second arc of the main story which is unlikely to be the comic finale...

Syphile's biological parents died in the Nidraa'chal War

Since we know very little about her parents except that they were both great warriors, hence why Quain was so disappointed in her, it's pretty likely that they're dead by the time of the main story, especially since Quain's other adopted kids clearly know and interact with their biological parents (well, except Ariel, but that's a special case). And if her parents died in some manner of Heroic Sacrifice or Last Stand that would do even more to explain why Syphile annoys Quain, and why it's only at the very end when Syphile accepts death that she gets an ounce of approval from Quain. And if they died in the Nidraa'chal War that might be why Syphile lashed out at her friend Sael, sine Sael's situation (losing her entire clan) hit a bit too close to home if Syphile's parents had just died, and why Syphile was so desperate for Quain's approval that she unwisely got herself tainted, and we all know how that worked out.

Mel'anarch's new children were fathered by a Sullisin'rune

Laele'aell was Quain'tana's most promising heir and therefore Quain'tana might hope that Mel'anarch might produce similarly strong offspring with another Sullisin'rune. If not, This Troper is hoping that the father may turn out to be Valo Yurunhiir Sarghress, just to see the literal giant offspring that those two would produce.

Ash'waren is mistaken. Salan'dara isn't actually loyal to her.

Going into enemy territory to "investigate yourself " the situation though you already know what's going on? A Too Dumb to Live situation or actually a cover story for her secretly helping the Nidraa'chal effort?

The death of Diva's sixth daughter was her Despair Event Horizon

We know next to nothing about this daughter except that she existed, but her death could've been the turning point when Diva just stopped giving a crap.

    • It's my theory that Diva's sixth daughter was the Sharen Val assassinated supposedly by the Val'Chaitoc clan. And if her name was indeed Sae'ryne, then she may well have been the sister Sil'lice was closest to (or perhaps even her biological twin) and named one of her daughters after her.

Faen used drugs to cope with going to a school full of demons

Here, Faen calms Ariel with thoughts of peace, love, and chocolate. Here, chocolate is shown to be some kind of drug to drow. Also, it's apparently not too hard to get in Orthorbbae. There's no way to tell when Faen ate chocolate, but given that school was the only time she both was both under a lot of stress and had access to chocolate, it would be the most likely time. Also, if this is true, Faen would have had to deal with withdrawal as well as people dying when she was imprisoned, which would have made the PTSD worse. That's not really necessary to explain it though.

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