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Previous page history was archived for backup purposes at Forum:Tech Wishlist And Bug Reports/LQT Archive 1 on 2016-05-31.

Category Problems After Yesterday's Tech Stuff

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

As best as I can determine, every single category got emptied of contents at some point during or after the hour or so of technical support work on the wiki in the middle of the day yesterday. If a page has been edited since then, it's back in all its categories, but everything else is still missing.

Case in point: The number one category on the "Most Linked Categories" special page is Images imported from TV Tropes without an identified license, which is supposed to have 49,176 members. But if you go there right now, there are three images in it.

I see no tools available to me to regenerate category memberships -- is this something someone else has access to? Or do we need to do something more drastic?

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Question/Suggestion for Mobile

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Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

In Reddit mainly there's people wishing that "All The Tropes" is compatible with mobile, for easy editing for them. Is there a way to make this possible? Or is this too far out of our reach for the time being.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I've put in a request for some new features, this should be on the list.

If not,I'll re-check.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)
Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was requested.

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The Trope Workshop has vanished

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Summary by Looney Toons

It came back.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

@Jade Shauni just reported this over in Wiki Talk, and I've confirmed -- trying to go to the Workshop gets a 500 error.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

I see only a blank page, not even an error message.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Might depend on the browser, then, what you get... I checked in Chrome.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I checked both Mozilla and Chrome a while ago, it didn't work.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, Jade, our chief fiddle-with-the-guts guy is Labster, and he's off at conference in Europe right now, and is at least a few days away from coming back.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Okay, so we just have to wait. I've just posted that to clarify that it doesn't work (Guess I overkilled it).

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

It's either still down or down again. How long does this stuff typically take when Labster is around and how many more days is "a few days"?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

He may not have noticed. I'll explicitly ping @Labster here right now, and make sure there's a note about it in the off-site ATT thread at the DW forums.

Labster (talkcontribs)

Seems to be fixed to me.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Yup. What was with it?

Labster (talkcontribs)

Extension:Cite did something weird, so Extension:DynamicPageList3 worked around the bug. And then Cite stopped doing that weird thing in 1.29, so DPL3 broke. All I had to do was update the DPL3 software.

Summary by Looney Toons

Problem was solved or solved itself shortly after it appeared.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Lua error: callParserFunction: function "SUBPAGES" was not found.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

Is there a way to have it so threads that are marked "resolved" go to the bottom? Or at the very least, don't get bumped up to the top when they are marked as resolved?

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/v/allthetropes on Voat is a disabled subverse

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Summary by SelfCloak

Link to subverse on ATT's sidebar removed. No attempt to re-enable the subverse will be made.

SelfCloak (talkcontribs)

I wanted to check on the Voat ATT subverse, even though Voat itself is way less active than Reddit, and I found out it's been deleted.

The subverse you were looking for has been disabled and is no longer accessible
If you are a moderator of this subverse you may contact Voat for information regarding why this subverse is no longer active
TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Voat itself is way less active than Reddit because it's strangled by CloudFurry.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

It's not worth the trouble, I'm removing it from the sidebar as the guy who started it.

In Special:Upload, image summaries and copyright status do not save to the image page

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SelfCloak (talkcontribs)

(Example of image page I had to create: File:Nukeit.jpg)

That means the licensing module (MediaWiki:Licenses) does not work and the license info has to be added manually.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Working on this.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

Recently, on more than one occasion, I've gotten pages that say stuff like:

MediaWiki internal error.

Original exception: [751de38372fc42b723a72e07] 2017-12-14 10:25:10: Fatal exception of type "MWException"

Exception caught inside exception handler.

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

That means the database needs a refresh/update, and you'd have to file a Phabricator report with the guys who run Miraheze to let them know.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

It's been so long. I don't remember how to file a report there.

Void (talkcontribs)
Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

Thank you.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

Ooh. The "thank you" went through. I got a <flow-error-fetch-after-open-lock> at the top of the thread after submitting responding "thank you". Maybe I wouldn't have been surprised if I knew what the flow-error thing meant.

Also I forgot there was the "Thank" button. The thanks button still works, I assume.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

At the risk of sounding incompetent, I'm having a hard time reporting this in the thread Void linked too. The bug is back, or at the very least a bug that looks the same has showed up.

Goo Monster (talkcontribs)

I tried using a different browser to try to avoid the but. The bug is present for both Fire Fox and Safari.

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HotCat doesn't modify categories automatically since the MediaWiki update

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SelfCloak (talkcontribs)

When I try to remove a category in a page, it goes to the edit section with the error message in red:

It appears that your browser does not support Unicode. It is required to edit pages, so your edit was not saved.

This error message is incorrect, as before the MediaWiki update, I could modify categories without any problems.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

What browser are you using?

I'm using Firefox and it works just fine for me.

SelfCloak (talkcontribs)

I use Google Chrome.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Confirmed the error, it's not your browser, it's the fact we have database issues, they are screwing up page loads and saves. It still works if you force save it.

Mods of Miraheze are already working on this.

can't get spoiler tag to work

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Series Of Numbers (talkcontribs)

I tried to put a spoiler tag on the page for my short film A Day at Last Chance, but it won't work. Am I doing it wrong, or is the feature broken? Oh, and it looks like I can't get the link to the film's page working, either, but it's on the Proper Works page. We

Series Of Numbers (talkcontribs)

Oh wait, maybe it only didn't work in the mobile version of the site that I saw on my phone. In the desktop version it seems to work. Still not sure why the link to the trope page won't work, though.

Series Of Numbers (talkcontribs)

Okay, I figured out the problem with the link to the trope page. Still trying to get the hang of this.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

A couple suggestions for the future, if you find yourself with the same problem:

  1. MediaWiki does not use CamelCase or curly bracket links. Ever. In particular, curly brackets are used for things called "templates", kind of like functions or subroutines for pages.
  2. MediaWiki links are case-sensitive. This is easier to handle on the Desktop site because you can turn on the AutoComplete function in your preferences (Gadgets tab, first item in the "All The Tropes Editing Enhancement Gadgets" section) if it's not already on. With it on, you just have to type the open brackets and the first few letters of the trope name to get a pop-up list in the upper right corner of the editor window that will offer you possible pages; keep typing until you see something that looks right, click it, and the link, properly formatted, will be inserted for you. On a mobile device, I'd suggest opening up another tab in ATT and searching for the trope you want, and copying it exactly.
  3. If your question after something doesn't work is "Am I doing it wrong, or is the feature broken?" the answer is usually "you're doing it wrong". You can check by looking at other pages. If they're displaying correctly, edit the page and look at how the correctly-working example is marked up, and make sure your non-working one matches it.
  4. Your edit history makes it pretty clear you came here from TVT. Have you read All The Tropes:So You're a TV Tropes Refugee? It should provide most of the information you need, particularly for links and spoilers. Help:Formatting has more detail on the fancier markup.

That said, let me just add a "welcome!" and offer thanks for your willingness to add to and improve the wiki.

Series Of Numbers (talkcontribs)

Out of curiosity, what about my editing history gives away that I'm a TVT refugee?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I noticed a case where while you were coding a link with square bracket markup, you still put the page name in CamelCase, and had no vertical bar between it and the pothole text. And you corrected the resulting redlink first by changing to a different CamelCase page name, then by trying to surround the page name in curly brackets. And it still took you a couple of tries to put the vertical bar in once you had the page name worked out. And you were doing that on a trope entry for TV Tropes, for an example that was not exactly complimentary to TVT's moderators.

Elementary, really. <grin>

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