Identity Crisis/Headscratchers

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  • Many held that voting for the mindwipe was massive Character Derailment for everyone involved. Especially for Green Arrow, given that one of his defining character traits was his hardcore libertarian/liberal ideals as regards the rights of the individual. For that matter, it would have been more in-character for Hawkman to solve the 'What if Dr. Light comes back after our families?' problem by simply smashing his head in than it was for him to vote for double mindwipe. Not to mention that many fans were confused about Batman's attempted intervention of the mindwipe, with people thinking he was objecting to the actual mindwipe as opposed to him trying to stop the personality change (which would be more in character, but it isn't really clear, dammit Meltzer...).
    • Hawkman going with the vote for the double mindwipes is actually easy to explain: Since Batman was there and fought Light, if Light was just straight out killed on the satellite, then Batman would still know that Light was there earlier. And even if they got the Atom to help with a cover up, there's still the fact that Batman was still there. "What happened to Light?" "Oh, he's in jail and incidentally went straight and we'll never see him again." And of course, killing Batman was straight out never going to happen; killing a hero for trying to stop a Mind Rape, a prominent hero at that? The cabal didn't even decide to mindwipe Batman until after Zatanna prevented Light's mindwipe from being stopped and Hawkman pointed out that mindwiping Batman was the only realistic alternative possible.
      • It would still have been more in-character for Hawkman to take Light's head off and not try to cover up his part in the crime. Its not like they didn't have Silver Age JLA murder trials before. (Barry Allen and Professor Zoom, anyone?)
      • As for Green Arrow's support for the plan, if you remember, he was against the initial brain butchering. Flash had to be the tie-breaker. As for when they voted to make Batman forget, well, as Ollie said, "Some things are bigger than Batman".
  • There was also a lot of objection to the scene where Deathstroke supposedly defeated an entire Justice League lineup singlehanded, in a fight sequence that could have been designed to showcase the common pitfalls of Popularity Power. Superpowers suddenly failing to work consistently for no reason? (The Atom can and often does retain full mass when he shrinks, especially when he's going for a charging attack). Sudden outbreaks of Faux Action Girl? (Black Canary having a bag stuffed over her head after having stood still, doing absolutely nothing, for a span of time sufficient for Deathstroke beating up half the team before even getting around to her. Let us recall that Dinah has the reaction time of one of the top six martial artists in the world, and can at least temporarily incapacitate Deathstroke simply by opening her mouth and screaming.) Inexplicable outbreaks of Plot Induced Stupidity? Green Lantern, wearing one of the most powerful ranged weapons in the universe, instead chose to go hand-to-hand against one of the DCU's finest melee combatants.
    • People seem to forget that Deathstroke was actually losing near the end of the fight. While he was "prepared" for the heroes' powers and weapons, he wasn't prepared for Green Arrow stabbing an arrow into his eye socket and all of them dogpiling him at once.
      • Although there is no reason whatsoever that he wouldn't be able to handle a dogpile of non-superstrength enemies.
      • In the narration Green Arrow says that the arrow in the eye socket made Deathstroke lose his cool. He went from being a calm and badass strategist to a slightly stronger than Badass Normal and outnumbered psycho.
      • This really bugged me. Especially Dinah not being able to use her scream because of a bag on her head (I've seen her plow through steel with that birdcall, but burlap is too much), and Kyle being taken down because Slade grabbed his arm and put it in a kind of lock. (Note that it takes truly epic overuse of the Idiot Ball for Kyle to go within reach of Deathstroke at all, seeing as how Deathstroke is one of the DCU's melee combatants, and Green Lantern is a flying energy blaster!) Get the sense reading it that the former comes from all the women in this book being useless or crazy (see below) and Kyle not having been from the Silver Age and thus not allowed to be awesome.
      • What happened to the Atom is also inexcusable. Beating him up with the light from a laser pointer because 'the Atom has no mass when he shrinks'? Mr. Meltzer, have you ever read an Atom comic book before? The Atom does maintain his mass when he shrinks. His entire fighting style is based around being a guy with the mass of a full-sized human being while being the size of a bullet. Literally all the way back to Ray Palmer's first appearance in Silver Age comics, the Atom has had the ability to selectively retain his full mass at any size. And suddenly his power works 180 degrees backwards from how its always worked because... because Deathstroke is just that awesome, that's why. *eyeroll*
      • And let's not forget what happened to the Flash. One of two things happened in that fight: either Deathstroke was able to swing a sword around faster than the Flash could react (which would require his hands to be moving at FTL velocities), or else Wally ran his chest directly onto the point of what to him would be a stationary object. Neither of these possibilities makes the remotest bit of sense. And before someone reminds us that Deathstroke tripped Wally while he was running during the Teen Titans era, two points: one, Wally was notably slower then, and two, it didn't make any damn sense back then either.
      • I thought Dinah went to help Ralph who got blown up.
  • Jean's somehow knowing Tim Drake's secret identity, when that was information more closely held than Batman's own secret ID. Tim didn't even tell Oracle who he was until several years after his career started. Tim has chosen to let romantic relationships and even his Young Justice membership entirely collapse rather than violate secret ID security — Steph had to find out who Robin was from Batman, not him, and Tim was so incensed over that breach of security that he temporarily quit working for Batman! The point is, Tim Drake is the only person in the DCU whose own secret identity paranoia makes Bruce Wayne look open and trusting, so how in the name of Rao did Jean Loring ever find out?
    • To be perfectly fair, both Tim Drake and his ID paranoia are products of a bygone age that unofficially ended with Identity Crisis. In the Silver Age, it seemed like just about every good guy in a costume seemed to know that Bruce Wayne is Batman and Clark Kent is Superman, but after Crisis On Infinite Earths, DC made Ret Cons that drastically scaled back the number of heroes who knew their IDs. Now, just like most people in the DC Universe, most superheroes didn't know who they really were. When a superhero did learn either of their IDs (whether because like Tim Drake, they figured it out, or because either Bats or Supes told them) it was always a semi-major event during that period. Identity Crisis was the first story since COIE to restore the Silver Age status quo of most superheroes knowing Bats & Supes' IDs. This was more or less revealed in the first issue of IdC when Olliver Queen, who had never been part of the "entrusted few" after COIE, kept casually referring to Superman and Batman as Clark and Bruce. Of course, since Tim Drake came on the scene long after Ray and Jean divorced, and since until IdC, he was not an orphan living with Bruce, this revision still doesn't explain how Jean knew Tim Drake was Robin. Even knowing Bruce is Batman wouldn't make it a foregone conclusion that Tim is the current Robin. To say nothing of the fact that IdC, the first story since COIE to do away with the notion that most superheroes don't know Bats & Supes' IDs, illustrated all too painfully well just why that post-Crisis revision was such a bloody good idea!
    • The fact that this story made that revision seem like a good idea is in itself horrible in that, Pre Crisis, the League was much like a police agency where the heroes got along well. In an Alan Moore penned story for Swamp Thing that featured the League, they referred to each other by name, making them seem more (ironically as it sounds) human and friendlier to each other (always referring each other as their hero names always seems like a weird idea, especially if they were supposed to have worked together for years).
    • Was she Eclipso yet? That would explain it.
      • No, she became Eclipso after she was committed to Arkham.
  • Jean's motive for the whole plot to begin with. Jean & Ray split up the last time because she wanted to leave, and Ray didn't want her to go. The only thing she'd have needed to do to rekindle their relationship was go back and ask him for a date.
    • To say nothing of how ludicrous Jean's claim was that she'd not intended to kill Sue, but lugged along a friggin' flamethrower anyway.
      • In regards to the flamethrower, if I was a novice in using a size-changing belt and knew of subatomic worlds that I could get trapped in that could be dangerous, I'd bring along some offensive weaponry.
      • If I was a novice and decided to use a piece of size-changing technology, I would probably learn how to use it first before I decided to tap-dance on somebody's brain. Especially if I was familiar with the guy who invented it.
  • The rape. There are actually several mutually reinforcing reasons just why the rape was such a deeply polarizing event for many readers, particularly older ones.
    • It's, well, a rape. Squick, Nightmare Fuel, High Octane Nightmare Fuel, etc.
    • It's a brutal, graphically depicted rape, leaving very little to the imagination.
    • It was inflicted on Sue Dibny of all people, who, as one half of the most Happily Married couple of the DC Universe, had always been one of the DCU's Lighter And Softer, Fun Personified characters.
    • The rape was a flashback to many years earlier during the Satellite era of the Justice League, roughly halfway through Sue's career in comics. The problem is, though, that Sue turned up in plenty of comics since then, without any hint of having suffered such a severe, life-changing trauma as a rape. If anything, she'd actually been more prominent during this second half of her career than she'd been in her first, as a regular supporting character in the short-lived Detroit version of the League, the longer lasting Justice League Europe, and in James Robinson's Starman series. In all three series (and in every other post-Satellite League comic she'd been in, including Id C #1), she kept right on being a friendly, cheerful, happy, Lighter And Softer, Fun Personified character. In the JLE, she even worked alongside a teammate, the second Dr. Light, who had the same code name as her rapist without batting an eyelash. (The theory that the Satellite League erased her memory of the rape is, as far as this troper can tell, a Fanon explanation, which still doesn't explain why the League didn't also erase Ralph's memory of it.)
      • Ralph could have figured it out already, the great detective he is/was.
    • The flashback was shown after she'd already been killed off, making it painfully clear that Meltzer had no interest in exploring how this rape had affected her, or how she managed to cope with such a horrific event.
    • In the end, the rape turned out to have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with her murder. For all the controversy and shameless hype the rape aroused, it turned out to have about as much importance to the rest of the mini-series as a Big Lipped Alligator Moment, including the fact that it was never mentioned again after issue #2 (the issue in which it was shown).
    • What might be the rape's Dethroning Moment Of Suck came when former DC assistant editor Valerie D'Orazio revealed that the whole reason the mini was launched was when someone at DC suggested, "What we need is a rape!"
      • Steady on. Calling the rape '...brutal[ly and] graphically depicted ...' is flatly wrong. There is no nudity, little non-sexual physical violence. For comparison, look at the attempted rape from Watchmen, which manages to be far more graphic and bloody despite the worst of the act not actually occurring. The rape itself is shocking and disgusting, but it's actually the lack of clear depiction that gives it its emotional punch. Claiming the rape had no importance ot the rest of the mini is disingenous - Light's mindwipe comes because of the foul nature of the crime he's committed against an established cast member. He can't kill them because then continuity is screwed; rape then becomes the obvious candidate for what must have happened. Plus, such a foul crime makes the decision to wipe Light's mind much more believable - Sue (and thus the League) have been invaded in the worst way possible, helping balance our sympathies in the debate. Had he just roughed her up, there would be a considerably lesser moral ambiguity. As for her not being traumatized - rape is traumatic, yes, but that doesn't mean that victims are always completely crushed. It's unfortunate that there's no sign of any trauma whatsoever in her past appearances, but not all rape victims are forced into complete social shutdown. I don't mean to trivialize the experience - many victims are left with severe nervous disorders and trauma, and none of us have a right to judge that or to claim they are somehow inferior to those that don't suffer in that way. But some do make complete recoveries, and there's nothing in sue Dibny's character to make it impossible for her to be one of those.
      • I stand by my original, complete statement, "It's a brutal, graphically depicted rape, leaving very little to the imagination." While it's true we don't see any private parts, that's the only thing we don't see. By not showing either of them from the waist down during or after the rape occurs, it's obvious Dr. Light has his pants down. We know the exact position the rapist and victim are in during the rape. The only thing left to the imagination is whether the rape was coital or anal.
        • The reader sees really nothing. Light forces Sue to the ground, you hear a rip and then its a hand-shot. Even in Light's optic flashback, its not graphic. We see the side of Sue's leggings torn, but with the timing, its debatable on the details. (Penetration/assault/etc.) Yes, Light attacked Sue, but she hit the button and Barry Allen arrived first. Could have been a few seconds in reaction time. The reader's mind makes up the rest of the attack, and likely imagines it at its worse.
      • Claiming that the rape has no importance to the rest of the mini is a fair and accurate statement. The rape has 2 basic functions in the mini: 1)to provide a Red Herring suspect in Dr. Light, and 2) as a lead-in to a lengthy discussion on superheroes doing mindwipes on supervillains. Both of these functions are wasted in the mini. At the end of IdC #2, the same issue the rape is shown, Dr. Mid-Nite (I recall) declares, "It means Dr. Light didn't kill her!" Now there are all sorts of problems with this statement discussed on this page, but once everyone recovers from the Deathstroke fiasco, they all accept the "logic" of this statement and no longer treat Dr. Light as a suspect in Sue's murder. So that first function the rape provides was thrown out in the very same issue the rape is shown. As for function 2), it does take up a large chunk of the mini, although it stops being about "this horrible thing the villain did" and is instead about "this 'horrible' thing the heroes did". And that discussion is not only left completely unresolved by the end of the mini, it's as 100% irrelevant to the main murder plot as Sue's rape. Jean Loring didn't know about either the rape or the mindwipes, and would've carried out the plan even if they had never occurred.
      • How did Sue recover? How did she overcome this horrific trauma and resume being the fun, happy character she'd been before? There could have been an inspiring story to be told about overcoming adversity, Sue bravely refusing to let the rape define her and carrying on, but Meltzer and DC had no interest in telling it. Instead, Sue Dibny, who had a history and personality, is reduced to an emotional prop to cry over. She comes on stage just long enough to get murdered, then we get a flashback where she comes on stage just long enough to get raped, then (still in flashback) she's quickly shoved off stage so that we can get to the "Really Important Part" about mindwipes.
  • All of the female characters portrayed are voiceless, sometimes faceless (Wonder Woman shows up for several pages in the fourth issue, but only her hip was visible), and, above all else, victims. Sue Dibny is killed, then raped, Dinah's head is shoved in a bag, Zatanna spends the Deathstroke fight vomiting, and Jean is, of course, crazy. Which is treated, without any explanation, as a substitute for a motive.
    • In defense of the Wonder Woman thing--the back of the TPB has someone comment that it's part of the whole theme where we don't see the league's normal "big players." For instance, Superman and Batman also do very little in the story, and despite Superman being -around- we don't see him flying until the very end when everything's been resolved. I think the point was to make Wonder Woman's -presence- felt more than her person, especially since she doesn't really belong in this story since what family she has is comparatively unassailable and she doesn't wear a mask. And -everyone- gets thrashed in the Deathstroke fight. Your general argument that perhaps the text is insensitive towards its female characters, or doesn't realize that there are some serious negative connotations attached to its presentation, is valid enough. Still, I think some of the points are a bit of a stretch, and it's really only objectionable if you're looking for it (the text isn't saying anything -about- women, really, it just perhaps suffers from exploiting a female character for drama and not having other strong female characters to make up for it).
      • Every. Single. Female. Character. Every single one. And while the male characters may have lost in the Deathstroke fight (albeit in much less humiliating ways), they got other, less pathetic portrayals. Jack Drake got to kill somebody.
      • We also got first-person narration on the part of male characters, but not female characters. It's as if the women's perspective is unimportant.
  • And most annoyingly, the retool of Dr. Light. Making him re-Take A Level In Badass who could fight the entire Teen Titans roster was fine, but DC managed to make more of a joke than he already was. Nearly every single appearance of him since Identity Crisis has him mention rape in every sentence he says. Wanting to point out the Justice League mindwiped him? "They raped my mind." Wanting to point out how good power is? "It's like rape?" Dr. Light has become such a joke in this manner, Plastic Man even mentioned, "It's like his superpower now." It's gotten to a point where he could just be named Dr. Rape or Rapeman or Rape Ape.
    • To be fair to the story, Meltzer isn't responsible for other writers portraying Dr. Light in this manner after he wrote the story. Although, "Let's make him a rapist" is also a pretty bad and cheap way to make him threatening again.
      • I'd agree with that. Dr Light can manipulate, well, light. Theoretically, he could generate red sunlight to depower Superman, or use it to blind people. But no, that isn't Darker and Edgier enough for the writers
  • So we have a civilian as the only person on the Watchtower? Um, who the heck thought this was a good idea? First off, these heroes basically protect the entire planet, right? Natural disasters don't wait for the standard working hours of Metropolis (or whatever timezone the Watchtower is set to). It's always daytime somewhere, so there should be a minimum compliment of heroes up there at all times, or at least someone to keep the civilian away from the dangerous stuff!
    • Superman/Flash/GL can get to anywhere from anywhere faster than you can stand up. Having to use a teleporter to anywhere on Earth would slow them down.
    • This is a classic case of a writer who Did Not Do the Research, and this for an era in comics Meltzer supposedly loved. In the original comics of the Satellite era, there was at least one superhero on board at all times. It was called "24 hour monitor duty" and every single member took rotating shifts on it. This was talked about and referred to in numerous comics of that period. There should have been a superhero on board with Sue at the time Dr. Light broke in, and there would have been if this were an actual Satellite era comic. But there isn't for no other reason then because DC "needed" a rape.
  • After the Atom finds out his ex was responsible for Sue Dibny's death because she wanted him to come running back to her, why does he commit her to Arkham Asylum of all places!? Not only is that place hardly conducive to one's mental health, but the place also happens to hold 51% of all psychotic super villains at any given time & she's also publicly known as the Atom's ex-wife! Either the Atom is a phenomenal idiot, or he's just that cold.
    • Besides which, Arkham is an asylum in Gotham City, a place in which Jean Loring has never resided. There aren't any mental institutions in Ivy Town?
    • The woman went and did a tap dance on another woman's brain. Maybe it was out of the JLA's hands. And at least Arkham is trained to handle science-crimes. Allegedly.
      • "Maybe it was out of the JLA's hands." That's probably the case. It's likely the DCU has laws mandating that anyone who commits a crime using super-powers must be sent to a superhuman prison (Iron Heights, Stryker's, etc.). And since Arkham is the only superhuman prison we know of that's equipped to handle the mentally insane, the Atom's wife got sent there by default.
    • Then there's the questionable wisdom of putting someone who's blatantly demonstrated she knows Robin's secret identity in the vicinity of a bunch of Batman's enemies.
  • I have a few Headscratchers about this one. First of all, it gets revealed at the end that the burning of Sue Dibny's body was done by Jean with a flamethrower to conceal the real cause of death, a stroke. But then Ralph Dibny and the others immediately assume that Dr. Light (the evil one) was responsible, and that he burned her to death with his light powers. Except a flamethrower shoots a burning liquid (generally a petrochemical) that would have left an obvious residue at the crime scene, whereas a flash-burn from a high intensity beam of light would not. In short, the smell alone would probably exculpate Dr. Light immediately, but the detailed examination of the crime scene we see the heroes perform would definitely uncover accelerant residue. They finally do discover that it wasn't Dr. Light when Dr. Mid-Nite, performing the autopsy, finds that Sue's lungs are clean, showing no signs of smoke inhalation, supposedly demonstrating that she wasn't burned to death. The problem is that when you are burned to death, whether by being shot with a flamethrower or especially by being flash-burned by radiation, you don't inhale any smoke; you burn to death too quickly. People who die in building fires have smoke in their lungs typically because that's what they actually die from: smoke inhalation, not burning. Thirdly, as stated above, it is ultimately revealed that Sue Dibny was killed by what was, essentially, a stroke: Jean Loring used one of the Atom's shrinking suits to shrink down inside Sue's brain and then increase in size enough to kill her. This is eventually revealed when Dr. Mid-Nite finds Jean's footprints on Sue's brain. Really? A trained pathologist would not have been able to determine a stroke as the cause of death sooner? Strokes have highly recognizable symptoms, even allowing for the burns inflicted post-mortem. In short, the whole story makes no sense.
  • The incarnation of the Justice League with which Sue Dibny was by far the most deeply involved, one she worked for, in fact, was the JLE, hands down (Green Arrow even points this out in his narration!). Yet other than Ralph Dibny (obviously) and Wally West, both of whom were in other versions of the League also, we barely see any of the other JLE members in the story, and none of them have major roles. So Green Arrow, who, as far as I can determine, barely knew Sue, narrates most of the story, but Captain Atom, who was one of her best friends for years, gets one appearance and no lines. Likewise for Power Girl. Rocket Red (unless he's the guy at the very back of the funeral, out of uniform), Blue Jay and Metamorpho didn't even get that.
    • Brad Meltzer was mainly interested in the Silver Age. The fact that people like Green Arrow and Black Canary are more popular and recognizable then Rocket Red and Blue Jay probably also had something to do with it.
      • I don't care what era of comics Brad Meltzer is interested in. Also, I'm not entirely convinced that Green Arrow (Black Canary, it so happens, did not have a particularly big role in the story) is that much more popular than Power Girl, or even Captain Atom (against Blue Jay or Rocket Red, okay sure). It's still bad storytelling. Especially since this story is entirely parasitic on previous continuity anyway. We see virtually nothing of Sue Dibny in this entire story, so the only reason to have any emotional investment in the character, and therefore to care about her death, is because of having read earlier stories in which she appeared. To ignore facts established therein about her character, and her relationships with other characters, undermines the whole premise for the story.
      • That's an interesting way to put it, the being parasitic part. I would've said Sue is more of an accessory in the content of the story than anything else, a link through which Ralph may suffer some horrible, gut-wrenching grief (which is probably worse). It likely would've been more fitting if Meltzer focused on people from the era of comics in which Sue was most prominent, but Meltzer seems to have a really annoying love of the Silver Age, so I'm not surprised he'd totally ignore it (read his relaunch of the Justice League comic - it's one long love letter to how cool the Silver Age was). It bugs me too, that he can't get over it. Also, I think Green Arrow just happens to be his favorite superhero. Out of the three comics he's written, they include a Green Arrow storyline, Identity Crisis, in which most of the action is told from Ollie's point of view, and Justice League of America (vol. 2) in which Roy "graduates" by becoming "Red Arrow" and Ollie has a lot of screen time in spite of not becoming a member.
        • I say it's parasitic because that's what it is. As I've said elsewhere, its characters are DC's capital stock. Killing off a character is like spending from capital: it may generate a revenue surge in the short term, but then you can't tell any more stories about that character. This story consumes capital by killing off or otherwise eliminating characters fans cared about, but does nothing to add to that stock. The story does nearly nothing to establish Sue or Ralph as characters. Just imagine the same exact narrative, but with two completely new characters in the place of Ralph and Sue. Do you think that would have had anything like the same emotional impact? I don't. Instead, Meltzer took two characters fans already cared about because of previous stories told by other writers, and used that to generate impact. Except he undermined that impact by not respecting the continuity established in those previous stories. If Meltzer loves Green Arrow so much, he can write all the GA stories he wants. But he should respect the rest of the shared universe that GA is a part of, and the characters that other people also care about.
      • Good points all around, but Meltzer seems to get Protection From The Editor when he writes for DC, so I think he got free reign to do whatever he wanted for the story. And what he wanted was to write about the Silver Age. I didn't care very much for all the focus on Green Arrow either, especially with how he comes off as an asshole at times, but it's what he wanted. I think the Silver-Age Focus got even worse with his relaunch of the Justice League.
  • There's also that Sue's death occurred in Opal City, and towards the end of Robinson's Starman run, she and Ralph had met and worked with the Shade, who quite liked them. Given Richard Swift's historical response (hint: it involves murder) when someone, especially some out-of-towner intruding in his city, targets anybody he's personally fond of, you wonder where he was during all this. Of course, given the quality of the writing, he was personally better off staying the hell away from this crazy plot.
  • Elongated Man, Batman and numerous other detectives are involved in this story, yet none of the detective work proceeds as a real case would. As we see, anyone can set a fire with a few simple tools or weapons, but all of the superheroes race off to find fire-based villains regardless of how tangentially (or not-at-all) they know Sue Dibny. Later, just to drive the point home, Jean is attacked with rope (attached using a standard knot), so they interrogate Slipknot even though he is in jail, cannot tie a rope now that he has only one arm, and has never met Jean or Sue.
    • I think the series implies the JLA was desperate and looking for anyone with any connection to the murders, but that wasn't explored enough. Green Arrow points out how they're grasping at straws, but that makes him look like an asshole since he just criticizes his friend's efforts to find the killer without suggesting any alternative course of action.
  • Meanwhile, there is no mention of Sue Dibny's actual arch-enemy, Sonar! In the Elongated Man mini-series, she encourages the nation of Modora to overthrow Sonar (Bito Wladon). Later, in Justice League Europe, he conquers the entire fallen Soviet Union and parts of Europe. However, this scheme entirely fails because he had tried to woo Sue away from Ralph and she played him for a sucker. The guy could have been the next Napoleon, except for Sue Dibny. Sonar should have been the likeliest suspect, even with the rape by Dr. Light.
    • Sonar was eventually seen in Belle Reve Prison, cursing out Hal Jordan. I guess the implication is that Sonar was locked up by Hal since before "Emerald Twilight".
  • Ralph Dibny never questioned what happened to Dr. Light until they are outside his apartment? Really?
  • Suppose Ralph and Sue had come back from the hospital ready to go public (as is their nature) with this crime? How can they prosecute Dr. Light in court for rape if the Justice League has mind-wiped him? Why is all this done without even consulting the victims about their intentions?
    • There's an escalation risk. The details of the JLA Satellite being vulnerable, and a public hero's wife being a target means a Metahuman, or Badass Normal rogue tries it again. With someone else, or targeting the Dibnys' again. There's always someone scarier out there.
  • How likely is it that Black Canary, an outspoken feminist, would be voting to protect Dr. Light for raping her friend? (This is later referenced in an issue of Justice League of America.)
    • While Dr. Light's crime was horrible, perhaps she just felt that the punishment was inhumane, recognizing that Dr. Light is still human and that lobotomizing him would be a huge breach of ethics, even in the treatment of a rapist. Superheroes are usually very cautious in dealing out punishment themselves as it can lead to Jumping Off the Slippery Slope.
  • This one is sort of minor compared to most of the others posted already, but why the hell was Kyle sitting at the League conference table at the end? He was in space at the time due to events in his own series. Now granted, his presence throughout most of the series could be explained as that he decided to come back briefly for Sue's funeral and the investigation into her death, but that still doesn't change the fact that he left the League and handed his seat to John Stewart before leaving Earth--and we saw John at the funeral, too. What, Meltzer just didn't care?
    • That'd be my bet. His stories usually have minor errors like that.
  • Sue was burned to death by a flamethrower, and the heroes automatically assume it must be a villain with either fire powers (ignoring the trace evidence that should remain from fuel, as noted above) or a villain who habitually uses a flamethrower, such as Heat Wave. But, as the ending shows, anybody can theoretically use a flamethrower. Sloppy detective work on the part of all the heroes to assume that the use of a weapon indicates identity; it'd be like only chasing down knife-themed villains after a stabbing.
  • Why is Batman going on about the 'who benefits?' thing when his own enemies mostly commit crimes with no tangible benefit? Murder for the sake of murder should not be a new idea to him.
    • Maybe, but most of Batman's enemies are criminally insane. Sue's death left very little evidence (footprints on brain aside), and this, among other things (such as Tim Drake's dad getting killed), makes this mystery less of a who or how dunnit and more of a why-dunnit. Jean is the only one that benefits. If it was a who-dunnit, the suspect list would be much shorter and we would have been given more evidence; and it's not a howdunnit because there isn't enough evidence. Batman is asking the correct question.
  • This has more to do with the fallout from the premises and retcons Identity Crisis set up, but: after the revelation that a group within the League had been engaging in mindwipes on a regular basis when villains discovered their secret identities and such, other DC series(es?) revealed in turn that seemingly-reformed villains like Flash's old-school Rogues and Catwoman were actually brainwashed by Zatanna into goodness (or, in the case of the Rogues, she brainwashed one who then attacked the rest). But in the meantime, while she was neutralizing burglars and bank robbers, menaces like The Joker who actually killed and maimed people were still running around apparently unaffected. Zatanna's priorities might need a little work.
  • Why is this story called Identity Crisis anyways? It has nothing to do with heroes identities being at stake.
    • Several reasons. First, yes, the secrecy of the heroes identies were at stake. Remember the letters to Lois and Robin that hinted at knowing the secret identity of Superman and Robin? Second, the flashback to the Silver Age was about how often supervillains found out superhero identities. Following on that, there's the metaphorical identity crisis about how "heroic" the heroes are, after we find out how they treated Doctor Light and others.
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