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• By my count, there were originally nine Basterds. Wicki dies in the bar, Aldo and Utivich survive, and Donny and Omar die in the theater. This means there are four Basterds unaccounted for by the end of the film.
  • Stiglitz dies in the bar too.
  • True, but he wasn't an original Basterd. According to imdb the four AWOL Basterds are named Hirschberg, Sakowitz, Kagan, and Zimmerman.
• Why is the Perrier LaPadite chopping a tree stump in the opening scene? Why would you chop a tree stump??
  • He was cutting a knotch that he could use to place the ax in when not in use?
  • Um... exercise maybe? This is a surprisingly good question...
  • He could be chopping it up to get some extra wood before he'd have to remove it.
• What's with Donowitz's nickname? He's not particularly large, not particularly hairy, and I don't think bears are really associated with baseball. Then again, I know nothing about baseball.
  • Well, there was a Yogi Berra, and Donowitz was slightly bulkier than the other Jewish Basterds.
  • It might've been more ferocity than size, hairiness, or relevance to baseball.
  • The joke is that any rational person would just call him 'fairly large'. But stories grow in the telling and what's more, any survivors with swastikas cut into their foreheads are motivated to tell the story even bigger still - to save their skins for not fighting back because it was clearly hopeless. Building a fearful legend is the whole point of the Basterds - who do it to magnify the effect of their small force. When Landa sees 'Little Man' he realizes this, "I thought you were some kind of trained killer circus midget; but now I see that you are just.. small." Hitler also references it, saying he's starting to hear reports that the Bear Jew is some kind of Golem.
• Why didn't they burn the tavern? Seems logical to me, in order to get rid of all the evidence and suspicion they wfere there, instead, they even leave the bodies of their team and the English agent so it's pretty obvious they planned something big.
  • There was no time, since they would need to get to the premiere before it started. In addition, no one investigating would know what the Basterds would look like (even with the very infamous and very widely known Stieglitz lying dead on the floor, but that's another IJBM for another day). Even Landa didn't know who started the whole thing before he found von Hammersmark's shoe and autograph.
  • Stiglitz, though, had been in the German army. They sure as hell knew who he was. Plus, it's a BAR. It's full of inflammable liquids, only a gas station would be easier to burn. It would have taken, what, a minute to toss some liquor bottles around and toss some grenades down the stairwell.
  • Because it's a bar, not a hardware store. People tend to notice when you burn down their source of alcohol. If the initial explosion didn't knock them out, they would still be caught before they made it a block.
  • Also it was underground, meaning it was made of stone, mostly. Stone doesn't burn too well and if you try to blow it up, you might take the building along with it. That would have been even more suspicious.
  • But the point would not be to avoid suspicion, it would be to destroy (or conceal) evidence. After all, nothing could have raised more suspicion than what they already did--leave a basement full of shot-up corpses. A decent fire may have burned enough evidence (Von Hammersmark's note, for example) to slow German Army investigators enough to put Operation Kino back on track.
  • What is especially mind-boggling about this is that Lt. Rayne REFERRED SPECIFICALLY TO GRENADES THAT HIS MEN HAD ON-HAND JUST ABOVE. Grenades would've done at least a decent job at destroying evidence, especially if they'd tossed a good two or three of them.
    • You honestly think grenade explosions destroying an entire bar in a blaze of fire as a group of wanted vigilantes and a movie star hobble away is less suspicious than just them hobbling away?
    • It would have aroused suspicion, sure, but they still would have had enough time to pull of the mission. The Bastards are wanted, but they aren't thought to be in that specific area at that moment. A fire wouldn't make the Nazis say, "This looks like the work of the Bastards." It would have meant firemen working to put out the flames, arson investigators working to determine the cause of the fire and eventually what killed everyone inside. Only then would Nazi officers come and investigate. The bar was said to be on the outside of town. Why would a little fire at a small bar that's far removed from anything important be connected to the Nation's Pride premier?
      • ^ I'm pretty sure most people could tell the difference between "a little fire" and an explosion.
      • Except most grenades don't explode the way they do in movies. Shrapnel is usually the main concern, which wouldn't do much toward those ends. Then again, this IS a movie, so to hell with realism.
        • ^That sentence right there makes this troper realise this entire bit with the bar and Hammersmark being found out is just Tarantino fucking with the viewers. He introduced realism into a movie completely devoid of it.
• How is it a random French peasant in the middle of nowhere speaks English in 1940, and what's more, why doesn't he teach it to the girls?
  • You think every parent is going to teach their kids a language that's practically useless in the country they're in?
  • He might have been old enough to have fought in World War I and thus served alongside British and American troops.
  • Plus Landa didn't assume that he spoke English. He already knew that going in.
  • Peasant who has a large hidden storage area under his house? he could be smuggling things to/from the UK.
• How did the tavern fight work? Besides the Basterds, the nazi officer and the barkeep all the other nazis were too drunk to either notice the start of the gunfight or shoot accurately, yet still they take a second to repond and the whole thing turns into a bloodbath.
  • It's called Suddenly Sober.
• Another thing, Landa's plan seems smart, but when you think about it, even if the allied nations will declare him a public hero, there are still lots of jews whose families he've slaughtered that will be out for revenge (he is known as the jew hunter for a reason), it is pretty logical he won't be able to live in safety anywhere.
  • Possibly he had blackmail-class info on certain U.S. officials (like who did business with the Nazis) that would warrant him extra State-funded security.
    • Not to mention he'll be in the middle of the boonies - and out in a lake - in a house, probably surrounded by Secret Service.
  • Assuming the Allies uphold their end of the deal at all; since Landa already did his part, they could just as easily say I Lied (as Raine demonstrates when he kills the driver).
    • Exactly. The Allied nations did shelter war criminals, but that was because they had more information to give, like the German rocket scientists. What use does Landa have once the war is over? Zip. Probably the only You Have Outlived Your Usefulness that you could actually root for.
      • No, a high-level Nazi who roasts the entire Nazi command transcends measured worth, by miles. That point was made by Raine carving Landa's forehead. He downplayed it a lot, but he knew Landa wasn't going to suffer under the Allies; he sure as hell wasn't going to let the world forget Landa was a Nazi.
      • What worth is there in that? Sure, he helped do it, but the only reason to actually give him credit for it is some overdeveloped sense of fair play. The official Allied version of the event is that the operation succeeded due to the heroism of the Bastards; admitting that they screwed up and needed the Jew Hunter to help bail out of their ass only embarasses the Allies. I'm honestly surprised Aldo wasn't ordered to "lose" Landa in a ditch halfway back to Occupied France.
        • Truthfully, leaving Landa alive was probably more trouble than it would be worth, especially once various Jewish groups learned of his involvement and the terms of his crossing over, if such an event occurred in real life, Donowitz would probably have been the one credited. A more competent OSS overseer would probably have issued the order "Lose Landa, keep the radioman", and placed the radio man in Hammersmark's position instead. (So as to keep her reputation in her native country intact, which was typically done for those of public standing who died to bring information to the Allies.)
          • Landa's plan was not smart at all. It was dumb. Aside from the fact that Shosanna did most of the actual work (so the High Command died less because of his treason, and more due to his incompetence), any idiot could see his final fate coming. It was obvious that the Basterds were likely to betray him, given their record, and aside from that the Allies had no reason to keep their word, and the rest of the world wouldn't be too accepting of a guy who is responsible for the deaths of countless innocents, and would see through his treason. Even if there was an official veneer of acceptance, he would be widely reviled, and he is deluded to think otherwise. Pretty sure the Nazi insignia he got cut so deep that it probalby killed him too.
            • I think you're all underestimating Landa's importance. For a start he is the security man of the Nazi high command. Whilst Hitler is dead, the war still isn't over and he might have picked up loads of important and useful things over his time in the post. Secondly and more importantly think of the propaganda. A high ranking Nazi was actually an Ally the whole time? That would have a massive effect on the war(especially for the remaining German troops who would no doubt recognise Landa), Landa would probably be on every Allied war leaflet from here to Poland, something which Landa was no doubt aware of (and Raine, who somewhat spoiled it with his "masterpiece") and looking forward to.
              • Hitler died with the rest of the High Command and with other prominent Nazis; the German war effort was in serious trouble, to say nothing of the fact that many military leaders in Germany had been actively plotting his death for years and would likely sue for peace. Either way any info Landa gave them wouldn't have been especially important. Regardless, Landa was not an ally "the whole time" and only turned to save his own ass and because he thought he would be a hero; that and the idea that he'd be on "every Allied war leaflet from here to Poland" just brings up the earlier issue about Jews and others who are less willing to forgive him, to say nothing of historians and others who would shortly be tearing his reputation apart, especially if they discover what really happened and that events didn't play out like he imagined at all. Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves comes to mind, and even if it doesn't he'll be dogged by others who will be less forgiving. Again, assuming the Nazi scar he got didn't cut deep enough to kill him.
    • Unless Aldo cut "deep enough" to pierce his skull (and through the thickest, toughest part of the skull), no, it wasn't going to kill him. The forehead is skin and bone, and even carving it up as Aldo did is very unlikely to make him bleed to the point of death--especially considering Aldo has been "practicing" and would probably have a fair idea of how to make it hurt, last, but still be survivable.
      It's actually an old pro wrestling trick: Any time you've seen someone bleeding from the head, it's real--they slip them a razor, and they make a small cut in their forehead. It bleeds, but is still plenty safe.
• Perhaps it was just Translation Convention, but Shoshanna recording her last message to the Nazis in the theater in English seems monumentally pointless. If you're going to tell your enemies why they're about to die in a fire as a final act of evil gloating, isn't it necessary for the audience to know what the hell you're saying for it to have any value? Though I suppose her options were rather limited if she didn't know any fluent German speakers who were opposed to the Nazis.
  • Also note that in the actual movie Nation's Pride, Zoller's last line is "Who has a message for Germany?!" in English.
    • In his case, though, it's justified because he's taunting American soldiers, so he'd want to speak to them in their own language.
  • As well, Shoshanna's entire family was killed because a conversation that was very important to their immediate futures was being spoken in English, preventing them from knowing what was coming. Perhaps Shoshanna simply wanted the German High Command to meet their fates for the same reason (as they would be more familiar with French, her main language of choice, than English, given that they had conquered France and would need to know at least a bare minimum).
  • Also, though it's probably just my own mind coming to this conclusion and not an active thought of the crew - but can you imagine how infuriating it would be knowing you're about to die and having the perpetrator infront of you explaining her reasons...but you can't understand a damn word she's saying? Would drive me up the bloody wall. And then I'd die, presumably.
  • This was handled slightly better in the German dub, as most of the English parts were dubbed in German, which at first seemed annoying, but then again, some parts would work much better that way. First, the conversation between Hans Landa et Perrier LaPadite was in German. Switching from French to German, Landa's native language, makes much more sense than switching to English and seems less suspicious. Throughout the whole movie then, Shoshanna would have understood German, and consequently, she would have recorded her message "for Germany" in German, which, again, makes much more sense. However, I think she assumed that the "most important Nazis" would be able to speak English, or at least understand it.
  • Also, and I know this isn't what you mean at all, but she said it in English so that we, the English speaking audience, could look right into her eyes for that performance instead of reading subtitles. Tarantino's done this before, in Kill Bill vol. 1.
  • She assumed Landa was there, and since he had been able to kill her family because they didn't speak English, she wanted to show him that she does now.
    • That seems the most likely answer. She may hate Hitler because he's, well, Hitler, but her primary target would have been Landa. She probably would have missed him either way. He seems shrewd enough that without the Basterds' plan in motion he would have found out about hers and let it carry on, using a similar line of reasoning when she questioned him. And presumably toy with her up in the booth until it was time to bug out. In the unlikely event he thought she posed no more threat and left her alive, she would likely hoist him at a later date. The way Landa was characterised just makes it seem like it would be impossible to take him out at the theatre no matter whose plot went off first.
• Considering he's from Boston, doesn't it seem strange that a right-handed batter would compare himself to Ted Williams?
  • A. I don't know why you needed to spoiler tag that. B. I hardly find that strange at all.
    • That wasn't a spoiler tag. The footnote is just for saving space. Besides, isn't this the place to talk about things that bug you? It just seems like Jimmie Foxx would've been a better comparison.
    • If it bugs you it bugs you, but I just don't see how it's remotely strange that a Boston-bred baseball fan would model himself after Ted Williams. It seems completely natural, actually. I'm right-handed, and when I played Little League I imitated the stance and swing of David Justice, a lefty. Williams was a hero to Boston baseball fans.

• Re: the scene at the Paris restaurant with Landa quasi-interrogating Shoshanna over strudel and cream. Did anyone else think it seemed out of character that Landa repeatedly talked with his mouth full? Small thing, surely, but the Landa characterization was pretty clear at that point. And that character wouldn't do anything so rude as talking with his mouth full of strudel. Perhaps it was just Tarantino's way of saying that civilization and courtesy are just thin veneers over brutality.
  • Assuming he didn't know who Shosanna was, maybe he was sensing that she was tense and was trying to set up a casual atmosphere to get her to relax so he could properly evaluate her. Alternatively, maybe he was being extra-polite during the interrogation in the first chapter, either for his own enjoyment or to get a better read on the farmer.
  • Landa obviously recognizes her. He forcibly orders milk for her, to refer to the dairy farm where he drank fresh milk right above her.
    • Or maybe Landa just likes milk.
      • Along those lines, it's very common for people who are experts on gathering intelligence to use things like food and beverages as subtle tools for intimidation. I'm reminded of a scene in season 2 of Dexter, when a master FBI profiler is questioning Dexter under the pretense that it's a friendly conversation. Because Dexter also has an extensive knowledge of things like interrogation techniques, he recognizes that when the profiler insists that Dexter drink a cup of tea, the profiler's goal is to subtly assert his power over the person who's obligated to drink it. It makes sense for someone like Landa, who maintains a pleasant demeanor even when he's doing evil things, to use something like milk in the same way. It's not his style to say, "Let us have the premiere in your theater, and give the black projectionist the night off, or I'll crush you."
  • If Landa's investigative record is long enough for him to garner the moniker "Jew Hunter", I don't see why he would remember Shoshanna over the hundreds of others he tracked. Not to mention, he only got a look at the back of her head, from a hundred yards away, four years earlier.
  • I don't think he recognizes her; I think it's just his MO to treat every situation like an interrogation - in this case, I always thought he was doing that to intentionally make Shoshanna feel uncomfortable. He could almost certainly see that she was already pretty scared/uncomfortable/disgusted by the various Nazis around her - acting like a boor and displaying disgusting table manners only adds to that discomfort and puts Shoshanna further on edge.
• Landa emphasises that Operation Kino needs to take out Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and Bormann in order to end the war. Erm...wouldn't Himmler assume command in that case?
  • Near the end of the war Himmler attempted to sue for peace with the Allies to save his own skin (somewhat like Landa).
    • Yeah, and the Allies basically told him to go fuck himself, and threw him in jail.
      • Well, he committed suicide with a cyanide capsule before they could really do that.
  • Also, what about Eichmann?
  • And what about Beck, Oster, and everyone else who took part in the July Plot to kill Hitler?
  • And technically, you don't even have to kill Bormann. Most of his power derived from his ability to control access to Hitler as his secretary. If Hitler's dead, Bormann doesn't have anything.
  • And hey, what about Japan?
• Seriously. That bugged me too. How does taking Germany out of the equation automatically end the war? I'm rusty, but it seems to me that in the year in which this takes place, Italy and Japan were already involved in the war.
  • Italy would have folded immediately (it was the weak link of the Axis in real life as well), and Japan was an entirely different theatre of operations, but it still would have been effected by the loss of its only ally, and in this timeline, possibly more intense pressure from a slightly-less exhausted Russia.
  • The movie takes place in 1944. All that was left of Fascist Italy was the German puppet state of Salo, which would have buckled the second Germany went down. As for Japan...yeah, Japan would still be in the war, but many people even today tend to think of the European and Pacific theaters as almost separate wars. Except for occurring at the same time and having some effect on Allied resources available to fight in each, they didn't have a huge effect on one another.
  • Also, Germany and the European Axis peacing out in mid-1944 would have left Japan in a very precarious position. The Soviets would have been able to intervene in China quite a bit earlier and much more American manpower could go towards the Pacific theater. Japan would have gone down quite a bit sooner if most of the Allies' attention hadn't been directed towards the European theater.
• Shoshanna and Marcel pretend to be working for the Nazis to get their film produced without drawing much attention. Now that's fine and dandy, but how does the man they get to do the work believe a black man to be a nazi sympathiser?
  • They weren't pretending to work for the Nazis. I don't know where you could've gotten that idea.
  • You misunderstood that scene: the man they were strongarming was the collaborator.

• Why does Landa let Shoshanna go at the beginning of the movie? He may not have been able to hit her at range with his pistol, but he didn't even have his men try to chase her down. What gives?
  • She had too much of a lead. The time it would take for his men to find her, she'd be far away. After all, they wouldn't have been able to drive their car over there. Plus Landa isn't really in it to kill the jews, but doing his job (finding them) which he did do.
    • But why the smile and "Au revoir, Shoshanna!"? He seemed pleased that she was getting away.
      • He’s taunting her. That’s all.
  • Because when you're a Complete Monster, you always let one go to spread the word of your atrocities.
    • I see what you did there. And given what he said, that could possibly even be the case. What bugs me is that the other Nazis didn't go "wtf Landa" when he said that and let her go, but maybe they were out of earshot and in any case, subordinate.
  • He enjoys tormenting his victims. Notice how he comes into all of these situations knowing the truth, but still being polite and forcing people to act nice back to him while he slowly, slowly lets them know that they're fucked.
  • This point wasn't missed by Tarantino -- in fact, in the original script, one of Landa's soldiers did ask him why he didn't shoot the girl. His response was something to this effect (lifted from the script, the transcriber's horrible spelling included):

Landa: I'm glad you see my that way. Besides, not putting a bullet in the back of a fifteen year old girl, and allowing her to escape, our not nessessarlly the same thing. She's a young girl, no food, no shelter, no shoes, who's just the massacre of her entire family. She may not survive the night. And after word spreads about what happened today, it's highly unlikely she will find any willing farmers to extend her aid. If I had to guess her fate, I'd say she'll probably be turned in by some neightbour. Or, she'll be spotted by some German soldier. Or, we'll find her body in the woods, dead from starvation or exposure. Or, perhaps...she'll survive. She will elude capture. She will escape to America. She will move to New York city. Where she will be elected, President of the United States. (The S.S. Colonel chuckles at his little funny.)

• Just how sturdy was that baseball bat? After busting a few skulls with it, wouldn't any ordinary baseball bat have broken? Then you need to find a new baseball bat, in occupied France. Good luck finding a sporting goods store.
  • I have only anecdotal evidence to support this theory, but baseball bats were made better 60 years ago, and they were much, much heavier than wooden bat used today. Today, they are made to hit the ball far, and it's no worry if they break, because you can replace them cheaply and easily (and we do). It was only recently that batters figured out that faster bat speed (using a lighter bat) hits farther, and not a big, heavy bat. My grandfather's bat is still in our garage, looking no worse for wear for all the seasons it played, but it's fucking heavy as hell.
• When Aldo Raine tells the German soldier "What we have here is a Mexican standoff!" The German immediately replies: "No, you have to have your gun on me for it to be a Mexican standoff!" Why does the German know this particular bit of English slang? Furthermore, if Aldo grew up in Tennessee, why does he know it? (Its origins are traced to the South West US.)
  • I don't know about the German, but Aldo probably learned it from American westerns.
  • Westerns were actually fairly popular in Germany at the time.
    • Also Karl May's Western novels. Even Hitler was a big fan of him.
      • On the subject of Karl May, during the game between Wilhelm and his comrades, May's Winnetou series is referenced.
  • It seems easy enough to guess what Aldo meant from context. That may be what he did. Or yes, he may have already been familiar with the expression. If it was anything then like it is today, the average German was more fluent with English than the average American (from what my sister, who has lived in Germany, has told me is currently the case).
• In the Nation's Pride movie, where did the Germans get actors who speak English with an American accent to play the American soldiers? Not to mention where did they get all the material (US army uniforms, guns, and such) for the actors to wear.
  • The same place modern day American film makers got actors to speak German with German accents while wearing Nazi uniforms and shooting German guns: the casting and prop departments.
    • Modern day American film makers can hire actors from Germany and have material to make realistic-looking props. The Nation's Pride movie was filmed in 1943 at the earliest. Unless there were some expatriate Americans (or even some Germans who had lived in America and knew the accent) hanging around in Nazi Germany, during a state of war, they would have no actors to fit the part.
  • American accents can be faked just as easily as any other accent. We're not that special, guys.
    • Non-native accents are actually quite difficult to get rid of. Within the film itself, Hicox can't fake a proper native-speaking German accent even though he is perfectly fluent in German.
  • For the costumes and props at least they could easily have got them from dead/captured American soldiers. Goebbles was involved with the film and he should have the contacts for this sort of thing.
  • For all we know the actors could have been captured American soldiers too. The choice of "Act in this propaganda film or go to a hellish POW camp or worse" might make some willing participants.
  • The guns were probably captured and the uniforms.. Maybe they just... made some? Out of cloth and that? Nothing special about American uniforms. They don't even have to be the same material, so long as they look right.
• Why does Hans have his henchmen shoot through the floorboards when they could have easily just surrounded the house and rounded them up?
  • The Jews in hiding could well have been armed somehow, if not with guns then with knives. Trying to get an armed, desperate person out of a confined space can be quite dangerous. Safer for the troops to just shoot them without their targets ever even knowing they're being targeted.
• On the map in Hitler's room in the near-beginning of the second chapter, why is Finland counted as Nazi? Sure they were friendly with Germany and fought against the Soviet Union together, but they weren't technically allied.
  • The Finns did allow German troops to station in Finland, and most Finnish armour was of German make. They are generally regarded as an Axis (or at least Axis-aligned) nation, for all intents and purposes, and it makes sense Hitler would regard them as such too. At least, until the Lapland War.
  • Pretty straightforward case of Enemy Mine. Even Britain officially declared war on Finland. As above, they're generally (and in my opinion, mistakenly) considered axis.
  • Alternate reality. Hitler's cape kind of gives it away.
• Why does the Gestapo agent not do the reasonable thing and simply excuse himself from the table once he realizes the officers are spies? Couldn't he have called for backup and ensured they would have all been caught?
  • Hubris. He was convinced that with his own power of awesome Nazi menace, he would be able to apprehend them all by himself.
  • Besides, they might have caught on that he was onto them and shot him in the back or something. He had given a very long and distinct look when he saw them give the wrong sign for three more beers and he couldn't be sure that everyone had missed it. In fact, didn't they all have their guns secretly trained on each other already?
    • Actually no, the Gestapo didn't pull his gun out until the Brit's error.
• Why does the security at the cinema for Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and Bormann consist of two soldiers standing outside the balcony door? One may have expected to see a few guards in the foyer and outside the cinema doors.
  • In answer to my own question I suspect the entire film is actually a drug fueled revenge fantasy on the part of Emmanuelle, who was actually captured in chapter 1 and is being experimented on in Auschwitz (the Brazil option).
  • Hubris, again, is a likely answer.
    • I would have thought that Hubris would manifest as a totally OTT security presence I'm so important I need all these guards
      • Perhaps but every guard watching the door is one not watching the movie.
  • Hitler was there anonymously, so a large group of guards would have attracted too much attention. The rest, dunno.
    • Hitler wasn't there anonymously, he was there to make it more a propaganda event with his presence. If he wanted to enjoy the movie anonymously he could have just had his own private screening wherever he wanted.
  • Because he's in a well-secured theater full of Nazis? Hitler only needed a small PERSONAL guard because the theater was only open to exclusive and loyal Nazis.
    • But he is not in a well secured theater. There are no guards in the foyer, no guards outside the theatre, no guards back stage. I can just about accept that people who searched the place decided that the 20ft wide pile of film behind the screen did not represent a hazard and all the people coming to the screening were far far too important to submit to a pat down search. But having noone outside to ask why are you locking those doors?
      • There were guards in the foyer, they gang-tackled and arrested Aldo Raine. As for why there weren't others, Landa was the head of security and wanted the plot to succeed so he could negotiate a deal. He had to leave guards outside of Hitler's room because a) it would have looked even more suspicious if there were none and b) he needed Hitler to survive until he made the deal. Hitler was the leverage.
  • Couldn't Landa simply have moved the guards around to give the Basterds more of a shot at succeeding? He sort of needed their success to be possible for his plan to work out, no?
    • He wouldn't have wanted the guards themselves to get too suspicious.
  • Actually, no. Hitler trusted only himself, and MAYBE Himmler. They where a lot of people after him (apart of half the world, a lot of German dissidents also). He had really heavy security, especially towards the end of the war, when none except really close people of him could even SEE him. So Hitler, with just 2 guards in a theater, an area famous for assassination? (Lincoln anyone?). Just facepalm.
  • It's Tarantino's movie and Tarantino's version of history. Also, remember that Landa is secretly pulling the strings when it comes to the guard (or secretly doing it in a way other than intended, that is).
• Why did the two remaining Basterds left in the cinema started shooting everybody? If it hadn't been for (the unknown) Shoshanna's plan to lock the cinema, many of the Nazi would have ran away before their bomb would have exploded. Oh yeah, they had bombs to kill everybody, why risk everything just to have the satisfaction of killing Hitler with an assault gun?
  • Because you'd get to kill Hitler with an assault gun. VERY tempting, especially if you're a Jew!
  • Also, you make sure the highest value targets, Hitler and Goebbels, are dead. You just never know with bombs; maybe the target gets up to use the toilet at the exact moment the bombs go off and survives.
    • Am I correct in thinking this may be taking place after the failed bombing attempt? You'd want to be extra sure too if a simple TABLE LEG kept you from achieving your objective.
• Why did a group meant to go undercover in German-occupied France consist (with one exception) of soldiers who couldn't speak German or French?
  • When the requirements to be a Basterd are "Jewish soldier willing to go on a suicide mission," your options are limited. It's not clear why Lt. Rayne only took Jews, as I'm sure he could have found French, Polish, Czech, Dutch, etc -Americans with just as much of a grudge against Nazis. That said, they did appear to pick up some French and German along the way, just not enough to hold serious conversations in, and certainly not enough to fool a native speaker.
  • A big part of the Basterds' objective was to create a terrifying image that would strike fear in the hearts of their enemies. Stories about a bunch of pissed-off Jews who are out to kill the mortal enemies of their people are more likely to be spread far and wide among Nazis (who already considered Jews to be dangerous, sneaky, and out for blood), than stories about American soldiers who are of French descent.
  • Remember what Hitler said about how stealthy they are at getting around. When you're practically a ninja, you don't need that kind of thing. Or at least it isn't essential. And it's not like the Basterds aren't ever overconfident in their abilities. BONJOURNO!
  • There was nothing undercover about it. Undercover means you will be dealing with people and you don't want them to know who you really are. Every person the Basterds dealt with would know who they were, in their last few moments.
• Minor issue here, but, well...what's with the Wilhelm Scream in Nation's Pride? The first use of that sound effect wouldn't be for another half decade... chalk it up to Alternate History, perhaps?
  • Or the tiny little fact that The Wilhelm Scream itself exists only on our side of reality, whereas in-universe that scream is just... well... happening. How many different screams are there in the world that don't sound like any others?
    • Well yeah, of course a movie set before the Fifties wouldn't be barred from using it, but the Fridge Logic comes with a movie made before the Fifties.
  • What I'm saying is that, as far as the people making "Nation's Pride" are concerned, they're not using the Wilhelm Scream. Only Quentin Tarantino is. It's not like that guy in Return of the Jedi thought to himself before going over the rails, "You know what would be awesome? If I did a Wilhelm scream here! Wait a minute, I'm from another galaxy and it hasn't been invented yet. How could I have heard of it? Oh, what the hell, I'll do it anyway." On an in-universe level, they're just plain screaming. The people making the Show Within a Show are not using the Wilhelm Scream. They're just screaming and it happens to sound the same. There are only so many different screams in the world. Or if you prefer to look at it differently, maybe in the universe in which Inglourious Basterds takes place that particular sound effect had been invented by the early forties and they are using the Wilhelm Scream. Either way.
• I totaly sympathize with Landa's hysterical reaction to the "mountain climbing" excuse for a broken leg. Hello! You could tell you broke a leg by falling down the stairs! Last time I checked there definitely were stairs in Paris! The Basterds looked at least half-competent, how could the make such a stupid blunder?
  • In the previous scene, Aldo mentioned that she was going to be doped up the eyeballs so she'd be able to ignore the pain of her gunshot wound. If she'd been "all there," she'd probably have come up with something a little more plausible.
    • The mountain-climbing explanation was something Aldo came up with - in the same scene where he told her he'd dope her up with painkillers, he also told her that she can just tell people that she broke her leg climbing a mountain. He doesn't have the bullet wound excuse, but maybe he ended up with permanent brain damage (along with that nasty scar on his neck) back when he presumably survived a hanging.
• I understand she was wounded and traumatized, but Bridget had been an agent for Allies for two years - surely she should've acquired at least some spy mores and senses. So how could she forget such incriminatory clues as a note with her name on it and her very own shoe?
  • Considering that she and the Basterds had to leave in a hurry, they had much bigger fish to fry, and she was in pain from a freakin' gunshot wound, I doubt she'd have the presence of mind to think of removing all traces of her presence from the room.
• Seeing how much the "Italians" stumbled along the row full of viewers, isn't it strange nobody felt the demolition charges around their legs?
  • Being Nazi aristocrats, they were probably haughty enough to think that they were perfectly safe, so even if they did feel something, they wouldn't think it was a bomb. Their thoughts probably wouldn't even get past "Hmm, the clumsy guido has abnormally thick ankles" before they returned their attention to the movie.
• If "Everybody in the German army has heard of Hugo Stiglitz," then why didn't Major Hellstrom recognize him immediately upon sitting down next to him? And as a Major, wouldn't he be even more likely than the average soldier to have heard of Hugo, since he seems to specifically target officers?
  • Key word: "Everybody in the German army has heard of Hugo Stiglitz."
  • The internet hadn't been invented yet. People couldn't just get information and pictures of people back then.
  • Yeah, considering his moniker and reputation, they were probably expecting a seven-foot behemoth with eyes of coal and scars all over him. They'd never dream this fucker would be him.
  • Hey wait a second. Remember how Stiglitz was introduced? With the grindhouse letters, the guitar lick, and Samuel L. Jackson's narration? They show Stiglitz making the headline. Dude's face was on the paper. Now they might not have the Internet back in the '40s but they sure do read newspapers? This "only heard of him" thing doesn't explain it that easily.
  • Well, that would imply that everybody in the German Army has read that single news paper article.
  • It follows that if there's a dangerous killer on the loose and somebody has his photograph, every publication would include it.
  • A number of Real Life fugitives have gone unnoticed in plain sight on a number of occasions. More often than not a person who has seen your photograph before in passing will either not recognize you at all or think you look vaguely familiar yet be unable to place you. Even if they might otherwise pin it down they might still have other things on their mind, and how often do you notice the exact details of the physical appearance of the guy sitting next to you?
  • Hellstrom sitting down: "Hey, this dude looks familiar. Where have I seen him before?" Hellstrom realizing Hicox isn't actually German: "Aw scheiss, this is frigging Hugo Stiglitz next to me, and these dudes are all here to kill the crap out of someone important." He probably did recognize Stiglitz to some extent; it may have been one of the factors that triggered his suspicion.
  • Landa had no trouble recognizing the dead Stiglitz, who was supposed to be part of the team to escort von Hammersmarck to the gala. Landa probably wouldn't be the only Nazi at the show who would have recognized him, either...the guy's face was in the paper!
    • Landa is an expert at gathering intelligence, it would've practically been his job to recognize allies of a group of covert Jewish American soldiers inside Germany.
• Why isn't it dark at the end? It was clearly the middle of the night when the theater exploded and when Landa made his deal. Paris is only about an hour or two from the French coast, so it's not that far from the Allied lines. It should've still clearly been night at the end.
  • What happens when you stay up all night being interrogated and making long phone calls with leaders across the world, and then begin traveling through Europe back to America? Eventually the sun is going to rise.
• What really bugs me is the fact that neither of the two assassination plans is "complete" on its own. Namely, Shoshanna's plan would result in annihilation of everybody except people in the boxes (who are the big fishes anyway). Hitler and Goebbels were at the door when they were intercepted by the two Basterds and killed - otherwise they would manage to get out in time easily. Also, Basterds only killed 2 of the big 4 (and it is clearly stated that you need all 4 to end the war), which means that they would fail on their own too.
  • I'd thought the implication was that the Basterds' plan would've gone more smoothly without the panic caused by Shoshanna's machinations. As for Shoshanna, she just kinda wanted to kill Nazis.
  • I thought Shoshanna's boyfriend locked the outer doors as well? Besides, even if the plan doesn't outright end the war, it would be one hell of a finale for the Basterds.
  • Yeah, Marcel locks all the doors, that was kind of the point. Donny and...uh...Omar, don't make it out of the cinema either, right?
    • More likely, Shoshanna wanted to kill a PARTICULAR Nazi, the others were just bonuses. And even if Hitler escaped the theatre, the flames would eventually reach the hallway, which was padlocked shut. Nobody would have made it out alive (Marcel and Shoshanna might have if not for the dynamite though, martyr complexed though they may be) it was just a question of whether it was a quick or slow burning.

• Why didn't the Basterds carve swastikas into their victims' cheeks instead of their foreheads? It's almost stupidly easy to cover up the forehead with hair, a hat, make-up, etc. Aldo says he does it because it's unrealistic for the Nazis to always wear their uniforms so everyone will know what they did - but isn't it more unrealistic that someone with a swastika on their forehead will a) ever go outside ever, b) not ever try to cover it up, or c) simply burn it off it it becomes too big a hassle? If it were on the cheek, some of these problems would remain (the makeup or burning), but it's still a much more difficult area to obscure without being conspicuous.
  • Beards?
    • ... Dang. So there's no foolproof way to mark them forever - meaning the gesture is ultimately pointless.
      • The tip of the nose, perhaps. It would be hard to cake makeup there, too. Not without it looking odd.
      • Too precise, one wrong move and that Bowie knife Raine is using will slice their nose in half. Beyond that, it's also removable via cosmetic surgery.
  • Doesn't matter where they put it. By 1944, cosmetic surgery was advanced enough that they could fix it. It might not have looked perfect, but they could at least cover up/remove the swastika. So yes, it was pointless, other than to temporarily torture the victim.
    • Do you honestly think that any of the non-officers that the Basterds cut scarred could afford plastic surgery? Even when it's been around for sixty years it's very expensive, let alone if you were an average German in a crumbling Nazi Germany.
  • Folks, whether or not they can hide or be rid of the swastika is hardly the point. Do you really think the Basterds won't still do the trick if they believe the Nazi can hide or remove the symbol? Would they care that much? It's about, more than anything, the trauma and the symbolism of having a symbol carved into your very flesh. It's a punishment.

• One thing that bugs me is the fact that after the four years in the beginning Hans Landa is still a Colonel, I mean he's obviously very good at what he does and has connections in high places so shouldn't he be promoted to General?
  • Generals don't go out into the field to do anything, though--in the modern military, a General doesn't lead from the front. As I understand it, Colonel is the highest rank in most militaries that are still allowed to go out into the field and get their hands dirty. Landa was much more valuable to the Nazis if he's allowed to do what he does best than he would be sitting in a base somewhere delegating duties.
    Look at Jack O'Neill. He stayed a Colonel for at least seven years and probably more, seeing as he was a Colonel before the movie started, and the second he made General he wasn't on a field team anymore.
  • There are colonels today who are very good at what they do who have spent more than four years as colonels. Being promoted from a prestigious position to an even more prestigious position is by no means an easy feat.
  • I understand your reasoning but this was sixty years ago and not all Generals were desk jockeys back then and Landa didn't really go out to the field either so I can't see why he shouldn't be a General, however I have been thinking about it and I think the reason is that Tarantino wanted a Colonel Badass .
  • Much like Hitler during his days in the army, Landa is probably very comfortable where he is, having just enough responsibility to keep him occupied and entertained but not so much that it becomes a burden. Landa prefers to work independently and being promoted would mean more administrative duty and having to deal with stupid people's bullshit. He probably had been offered promotions multiple times, but accepting them would take him away from what he loves: detective work and showing off how much cooler he is than everybody else.

• I know this may be a stupid question, but how exactly did a Jewish runaway teenage girl that had nothing but the clothes on her back come to own a cinema?
  • Maybe it was owned by another Jew, a friend of the family perhaps, who arranged for it to transfer to her before something awful happened to him.
  • In the film she says she inherited it from somebody, whoever took her in I guess.
• Right, can I clear this up with myself once and for all - does Landa recognize Shoshanna in the 'strudel' scene? Because if he does, he would surely have reported her, as he can't possibly have known that she was planning at that point to kill the Nazi high command - unless he was unleashing a ridiculous plan, that depended on things that he was assuming would happen. On the other hand, the fact he happens to order milk for her and the way the conversation pans out does seem to suggest that really does know.
  • He knows who she is, and drops just enough hints to tell her that he does. They both know that he can have her and everyone she knows shot before lunch tomorrow. Landa doesn't technically have to report Shoshanna to anyone, since Jewish fugitives is his area of responsibility and expertise; he just has to send his men out to get her. He doesn't have to do it right then, because she has nowhere else to go. Landa is either frightening the poor girl for a laugh, or he doesn't think that Shoshanna as she is is an interesting enough target for him right now, and is letting her know that he knows, and will be after her. Or he just doesn't want anyone to know that he is having dessert with a girl was one of his targets and got away from him.
  • Remember, Landa is the Jew Hunter. Part of the reason he does it at all is he enjoys the hunting aspect and the challenge therein; it's an intellectual, investigative exercise for him, like doing the crossword. There's no challenge at all when the girl is just plopped right in front of him during lunch, and no satisfaction for him to spring up in the restaurant and say, "Gotcha!"
    He was letting her know he knew who she was, and probably enjoying her squirming a bit, but he probably wasn't actually planning to do anything. Hell, he probably would just enjoy the irony of having a Nazi propaganda film premiering in a theater being run by a Jew.
    • But how could he possibly recognize her? The only time he even gets a glimpse of her face is through a small crack in the floorboards as she is escaping from the farmhouse. Added to this her face is covered in dirt, she is moving at the time and she is a number of years younger, plus he doesn't hear her voice or anything...

• Why was Hicox doing most of the talking during the meet in the tavern, when the Basterds had two actual Germans who would not have been suspicious? It was Hicox's accent that made Major Hellstrom take notice. If Stiglitz or Wicki had told Wilhelm to buzz off instead, everybody might have made it out alive.
  • Hicox was the only one of the three with extensive knowledge of the German film industry, so he was supposed to be the top man in the escort. He probably should have gotten Stiglitz to take care of the drunken staff sergeant, but was too nervous to realize this.
    • Trust Stiglitz to handle the situation? The man looked as though he was just barely stopping himself from killing everyone in the room when he wasn't talking to them. I'd doubt it'd be a good idea to get him to handle the situation.
    • Actually, Stiglitz was doing just fine until Hellstrom sat down next to him.
  • Hicox was the ranking officer and was confident in his abilities. Apparently too confident.

• Was Pvt. Zoller in on Landa's betrayal? The placement of the dynamite under Goebbels's seat could not have possibly happened without Zoller's awareness -- it actually seems likely that Zoller himself was the one to place the bomb. If so, why did he bother trying to get some nookie from Shoshanna instead of warning her to escape?
  • Zoller didn't have anything to do with Landa's plan. After Landa talked to Gobbels, he patted Zoller on the shoulder and walked out. It was when he patted Zoller to distract him for a second that he placed the bomb.

• How come neither of the Basterds who charged in the theater to kill Hitler seemed to be surprised at the fire? They couldn't have not noticed it, because the whole audience was running to the doors and the actors playing those two Basterds said they almost collapsed from the heat in that scene.

• How come none of the Basterds thought of barring the theater's doors themselves?
  • Because they were planning on blowing the place up, not burning it down. It would have been instantaneous, so people wouldn't have been trying to escape. Of course, this doesn't work if they start shooting before the bombs went off, but it looked like that was Donny breaking off from the plan.
• Hugo Stigliz is an Ax Crazy Knife Nut who might be clinically insane. There's no indication he killed his fellow soldiers out of disdain for what they were doing or if he actually agreed completely with Hitler's goals and just decided it'd be fun to go on a killing spree. So, Aldo decides to break him out. And no one stops to say, 'Hey, I can't sleep with my eyes open, so I'm casting my veto for breaking the serial killer out, at least until we find out he's pro-Jewish, pro-Romani, pro-homosexual rights, or something other than just a sadistic psychopath.'
  • This may be a little bit of a surprise to you (...if you spent the whole movie with your eyes closed and your ears plugged), but the Basterds are, as a rule, pretty damn fucked up themselves. Even if Stiglitz was just a psychopath, he would've fit right in regardless.
  • No, it's no surprise at all that a group of men unaffiliated (at least, officially) with any government, lead by a blood-thirsty man with an unexplained scar on his neck, are fucked up. But they have a mission, are shown to be intelligent, and presumably have a strong streak of survival. Deciding to break out a man who turned on his own for no obvious reason is a good way to hinder their mission and possibly pointlessly end their own lives.
    • It's possible that they were there to do something else, happened across Stiglitz in confinement, and went 'Hey, he might be useful, or at the very least be another body to soak up bullets'.