Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Fridge

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Fridge Logic

  • The game's subtitled "Fate of Two Worlds"? That would mean the Marvel and Capcom worlds, right? So... Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Mega Man X, Devil May Cry and all of the other Capcom games all take place in the same continuity? That's... Pretty awesome, actually.
  • Both the Marvel and Capcom universes are in danger, correct? Then why does Galactus only devour one planet? Unless the two worlds merged, shouldn't the other universe still be intact?
    • To be fair, though, in the ending artwork for Galactus' ending, he is shown devouring both worlds...
  • Galactus is so big, he can hold Earth between his two hands. But it seems like the fighters are, at most, as big as his hands (you can see it when he does his grab attack). So when we come into him, the fighters become... bigger? Then how could they fit into their worlds?
    • The fighters (most likely) remain their normal sizes. Galactus is a combination of You Cannot Grasp the True Form and Your Size May Vary; his most common appearance is how he presents himself so that lesser beings in the Marvel universe can perceive him. His size (while always large) is wildly inconsistent whenever he shows up, ranging from the size of skyscrapers to larger than the earth.
    • Galactus shifting from "unspeakably vast" to "very big but manageable" is present in the battle itself -- while the player is dealing with his Heralds, Galactus himself is visible in the background with his hands cupped around Earth.
  • During her Level 3 "Silent Kill" Hyper, X-23 turns invisible until surprising the opponent with an aerial slash. Except X-23 can't turn invisible.
    • It's implied from her attack calling and inspection of her "invisibility" after the hyper that she's actually burrowing underground. Still somewhat confusing, though.
      • Then how do you explain her jumping attacks while invisible?
      • Well, she simply jumps out from the underground. That's what I can get.
    • It's possible that it's actually the reverse going on. When she does her "Silent Kill" Hyper Combo, she yells "Dirt Nap!" and a cloud of dirt kicks up before she turns invisible. This CAN imply that she's actually blinding the opponent(s) temporarily, making it hard to see her until she attacks or the effect wears off.
      • She's using tunnels previously dug by Rocket Raccoon?
  • Mega Man didn't get in because they feared that they couldn't think of new moves for him. Or atleast were too lazy to implement them. Anybody who's played the first two Marvel vs. Capcom named games knows that Mega Man was a Shotoclone. Thus, they didn't add him in because he was one. The problem? Akuma is even more similar to Ryu and still got in. This explanation would've been fine... in the first Marvel vs. Capcom. Laziness, indeed...
    • It's so bad that some players even believe that Akuma makes Ryu completely obsolete. To make matters even worse, there are other characters who possess extremely shoto-esque moves (Morrigan and Captain America for example), and characters like Chris Redfield and Dante are allowed to use their entire arsenals from their respective games. There's no reason Mega Man wouldn't have been able to, say, use Guts Man's boulders, Flash Man's freeze, or Galaxy Man's black hole.
      • No longer an issue as of Ultimate, where Ryu has been buffed to be significantly better than in vanilla, as well as completely different from Akuma.
      • And some still want Mega Man X who could indeed use both the Hadouken and the Shoryuken. No biggie. That leaves the X Buster and about 30 other moves (give or take) to add. Of course, mind you, X has only been Nintendo and Sony. At worst they could make him a Play Station 3 exclusive. However, the real reason may be because the creator of Mega Man himself left Capcom. It's not hard to guess that it was a sign of respect or copyright issues. Atleast people wouldn't have complained about that. (outside of the pure Fan Dumb)
      • Not really. The game was in production long before he left. Also, Zero was actually his favorite character, so if they were trying to pay "homage", wouldn't THAT character be the one to withhold out of respect?
      • On the topic of "X has only been Nintendo and Sony", how about Zero? He was from the same series as X, but he could make the cut.
      • That's why people were annoyed that he got over X. Zero got a nice spotlight in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. He doesn't need any more than that, really (plus he has his own game series). X never got a Vs. appearance.
      • It would also be easy to make X a unique character, by giving him an "Armor Change" move. The different armors would have different play styles: Falcon, Gaea, Blade, Shadow, Ultimate.
      • Hell, they could have just gone the Zero route and gave him (at least) one Special Weapon from each main title. After all, he does have 64 different weapons to choose from, and that's excluding the X-Buster and some of his gizmos from Command Mission. Add in the Ultimate Armor and its Nova Strike as hypers, give him the Hadouken and Shoryuken as nods to the first two games, and voila! It's simpler than most people think, and the same could have very been applied to the original Mega Man as well (whose moveset from MvC and MvC2 was noted to be unsavory by the devs; notice that Jill was completely reworked from 2, so that argument doesn't hold water), if not better, seeing as Classic's total is in excess of 100 (and that's including misc. powerups like the Rush options and adapters).
  • So with the fight against Galactus, pray do tell HOW exactly are they breathing IN SPACE!?
  • It is kind of odd that Ghost Rider's Penance Stare works on everyone, even good people/beings (Chun-Li, Amaterasu), and the insane (Deadpool). Sure, Gameplay and Story Segregation, but it's weird.
    • The penance stare burns the soul of anyone who has sinned. Everyone in the game has done something that could be considered a sin therefore their soul is effected.
      • Sentinel and its soulless chassis say hi. And I'm pretty sure Ammy has not committed any sins to speak of.
      • I've heard a variant explanation that it causes the victim to experience all the pain s/he has caused others (whether innocent or guilty, good reason to do it or not, etc.) So Amaterasu would feel what she did to Orochi, Yami, Ninetails, and all those imps and demons.
  • Hawkeye tries to insult She-Hulk by saying her cousin got the brains in the family. Considering that he's also Bruce Banner, one of the eight smartest people in the world...
  • Two certain people give out different lines when they face Phoenix Wright as the first man up. She-Hulk states "The Defense shall rest *Beat* Her fist on your face!" and Iron Man quotes "If I win, you're gonna call off that lawsuit against Stark Industries." Common responses considering they know Nick is a lawyer, but then fridge logic comes into play: Nick is a DEFENSE Attourney. In these two statements, it's being implied that Nick is a prosecutor instead.
    • Fridge Brilliance: She-Hulk is a defense attorney as well. As for Iron Man, he probably heard 'lawyer' and jumped to conclusions.
  • Why would Vergil need Muramasa to hurt Wolverine? Yamato cuts dimensions perfectly well...

Fridge Brilliance

  • A lot of fans were upset that Nathan Spencer had his dreaded new look and would have preferred the redesign from Bionic Commando: Rearmed. But then you play it and realize that this Spencer can do something that the Rearmed version couldn't: jump. And with the ability to jump added to Rearmed 2, there's a good chance that it will be used as an alternate costume down the line.
  • When facing the X-Men, Doom opens with "I will make you wish you were fighting Magneto!" This becomes rather interesting when you consider that Paul Dobson has voiced Magneto in the past.
  • The whole "Your name's Zero? Hope you don't fight like one." is a reference to the first Mega Man X game, where Zero did in fact fight like a Zero. By blowing himself up to take out an enemy.
    • Also, Zero's designation of Sentinel as a Maverick. While the term itself has expanded and evolved as the X (and Zero) series progressed, a Maverick ultimately proves to be a source of great danger to humanity. Sentinel hunts down mutants (who are only different from regular humans due to genetic abnormalities; they're still humans all the same), and this isn't even factoring in the occasional Zeroth Law Rebellion that Sentinels seem to suffer from time to time.
      • Not to mention the Zeroes Jets mentioned in the YMMV page.
  • Amaterasu never howled as an insult in Okami -- but since she does here, she leaves herself open to being attacked mid-howl, just like in the battle against Yami.
  • Taskmaster's theme sounds very heroic. Considering who he is, it doesn't seem to fit his character, so why does his theme sound so heroic? Then you remember that his powers let him mimic heroes.
    • Taskmaster copies a lot of things off of other heroes. Including voice actors.
  • In a very Meta example, Zero got in over Mega Man. Zero was meant to be the main character of Mega Man X (or, at least, X was designed as a red robot with long blond hair, which becomes Zero's design), but Executive Meddling reared its ugly head. And now the opposite happened. Triples as a case of Irony and Hilarious in Hindsight.
  • You might be wondering why Tron's post-fight Trash Talk after winning against Zero asks him where MegaMan Volnutt is. Remember Tatsunoko vs. Capcom? Who was representing the Mega Man series alongside Zero and Roll?
  • Sentinel's recent health nerf may seem pretty odd when you consider that he's a giant robot, but take a look at the Sentinels on the 90's X-Men cartoon, and see how easily destroyed they are. If anything, the nerf made this Sentinel even more true to form!
  • Phoenix has the lowest health in the game. This means naturally that she dies. A lot. Much like her comic-book counterpart (at least, that's how people see it). What makes it even better is that, if she dies when you have a full 5 meters of super, she goes into Dark Phoenix mode. Where she regenerates all her life, but still has the lowest health in the game. And will still die a lot.
  • Doctor Strange was greeted by some of the fanbase with "Phoenix Killer!" But one of the major roles for his character is to come in and deal with unstoppable galactic threats...
  • Ultimate Marvel version of Nick Fury appears in C. Viper's ending. Most people saw it as odd, especially because this universe (Earth-96169) is based off of the mainline Earth-616. But then the Updated Rerelease come out with the name Ultimate MvC3, and now it makes sense.
  • Ghost Rider's motorbike hyper is named Spirit of Vengeance. Cool, but odd. But then there's the info about the Ghost Rider movie, subtitled Spirit of Vengeance. Thus, this proves that Marvel is doing their meddlings to advertise their characters.
    • And in his ending, notice the contract Trish holds up? It's the same one that was used to erase the marrage of Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson in One More Day.
      • Unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely that it's that specific contract. If you look closely at the signature, you'll notice that it's signed "Johnny Blaze."
    • Seeing as Hawkeye is in next year's The Avengers and Dr. Strange has had a rumored movie in the works for years now, I'd say you're correct in that Marvel is trying to do some advertising for their characters. Nova, Iron Fist, and Rocket Raccoon were probably just added for the hell of it, though.
      • There's apparently a Guardians of the Galaxy movie in the works, and Nova and the Guardians are definitely appearing on the Avengers cartoon next season. Still no idea about Iron Fist, though.
      • Iron Fist is in to advertise his appearance in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon airing on Disney XD (which is also where Nova's DLC costume comes from.)
      • Iron Fist also appeared in said Avengers cartoon, alongside fellow Hero For Hire Luke Cage.
  • The fact that Phoenix Wright has 2 different music themes plays into his personality. The standard theme sounds more held back compared to the other themes in the game, like how Wright appears to be a pretty calm guy outside the courtroom. However, get 3 pieces of good evidence and use an OBJECTION! move switches his theme to a more techno-based version of Cornered, more fitting of a Marvel vs. Capcom game, just like how Phoenix goes from a calm dude to the Hot-Blooded attorney we know and love once he gets in court.
  • Vergil's line to Dante "Sorry I was late for the party" makes for an interesting Lampshade Hanging on his not appearing in the vanilla version.
  • A lot of the powers Wright's evidence get in Trial Mode don't seem to be particulary conected with the actual evidence. The flower vase is an arc, the cellphone is a time-delayed projectile, the envelope is a bomb... wait... a bomb in an envelope? As in... a letter bomb?
  • Among many other changes to Frank's moveset, his Real Mega Buster move has been removed. Many fans wondered for the reason - but shortly thereafter, his DLC costume is revealed; it's him in the Mega Man X costume from Dead Rising games.
  • Arthur recognizes Iron Man and Doctor Doom as knights in his intro. Sure, they both use ornate armors, but why Arthur calls them so is deeper than that... If you remember the Doomquest ministory[2], Arthur's intro now makes much more sense. Especially because there's someone named Arthur in Middle Ages too.
  • Several characters end up breaking the fourth wall by beating the crap out of the cameraman (Examples: Deadpool starts ranting and grabs the camera, Wesker chokes him, Super-Skrull curbstomps the camera, Jill prepares a syringe, Nemesis lashes one of his tentacles out, Rocket Raccoon holds up a knife to the camera). However, since the "cameraman" doesn't necessarily exist since he's a part of the fourth wall (and none of the above characters save Deadpool have fourth-wall destroying powers), there has to be some other explanation. Then looking at the winposes one more time (especially in how they break the fourth wall), I noticed something: the supposed cameraman is apparently the beaten opponent. It is more evident in the winposes of Super-Skrull, Wesker and Rocket Raccoon.
    • In Super-Skrull's winscreen, once he steps on, well, whoever that is he's stepping on, you see broken glass. It's probably a cameraman.
    • That's your television/computer screen, meaning you're the one on the receiving end of all this punishment. Yes indeed -- guide Wesker to a win and he'll still catch you in a Neck Lift, just For the Evulz.
  • How does Phoenix Wright stand up to foes with super-human powers? He can't. He's bluffing his way to victory, just like in court.
  • So, how does drinking booze give Frank double EXP when taking pics? He's probably drunk. Don't you think pictures you took yourself would look better to you when you're drunk?
  • Mega Man X's card is ranked B in the Heroes and Heralds mode. It's a good throwback to him being a B-rank Hunter in his games.
  • What is Deadpool doing riding the 'OBJECTION!' in the intro? He's just come through a wall. He's up to his old tactic of Breaking the Fourth Wall!
  • If one pays close attention to Dr. Strange and Dormammu's movesets, they will find that the two characters actually have rivaling moves. Both stack spells with QCB commands, teleport with reverse dragon punch commands (their teleports even have identical range and patterns), can both fly, both have a magical command normal that uses the f+H command and even have similar standing animations. Both characters also have a hyper that resembles the other's special, Strange's Spell of Vishanti resembling Dormammu's Purification, and Dorm's Stalk Flare resembling Strange's Eye of Agamatto, especially with the Impact Palm followup. Finally, take a good look at both character's level 3 hypers, particularly the commands and animations. It's interesting how the hero and his arch nemesis, being the rivals and foils they are, have such moveset duality.
  • Normally, whenever someone gets KO'd by chip damage or while still standing, instead of the usual KO scream, they will spit out a soft spoken blurb. However, aside from Iron Fist, Zero is the only one that ALWAYS uses the same KO voice. Discounting that he actually does have a "soft KO" voice in the Gallery, the main reason could be that Zero being KO'd results in Critical Existence Failure by explosion, which would probably hurt a whole hell of a lot more than to warrant a simple "Oh no, I got beat" type of reaction.

Fridge Horror

  • Galactus has been defeated and killed! The world is saved! Hooray! And then you remember that Galactus' existence is imperative for the survival of the universe...
    • Or, alternately, Galactus said "I now must squash you like the bug that you are!" after he's defeated. Foreshadowing for a second battle?
    • Even worse; should Galactus actually be killed, his body will release a Sealed Evil in a Can Ultimate Evil In A Can named Abraxas who seeks to destroy every parallel universe. He killed an alternate Galactus and Roma (the protector of Eternity), among other things. The only way to kill Abraxas? Destroy all of reality and reset it using Galactus' Ultimate Nullifier. Nice going, heroes! You really have doomed the world!
      • Actually, he isn't killed, he just buggers off.
      • Remember, this isn't the mainstream Marvel universe. MvC3 takes place in a completely different reality from the 616 universe where that rule applies. There have been plenty of alternate universes where Galactus has died and nothing has gone wrong.
        • In Phoenix Wright's ending in Ultimate, Galactus is still alive and Wright's client. Based on this, I would just say that Galactus survives and just buggers off, generally speaking.
  • Vergil reacts to Trish with evident disgust, making this Ascended Fridge Horror of the unsettling idea that Dante is in some kind of partnership (maybe sexual, maybe not) with a woman who looks exactly like his mother.
    • It's more likely that Vergil is just offended by a demon taking the form of his mother, who he is notoriously guilty of failing to protect.
  1. ↑ see here for who's who
  2. ↑ in which Iron Man and Doom are accidentally transported to the Middle Ages
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