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Everything About Fiction You Never Wanted to Know.


Being the movie it is, a lot of its moral, story and opinions about it varies extremely


  • Alas, Poor Villain: Awww, poor dragons.
  • Anvilicious: Averted. Possibly to the movie's detriment, as Snyder is on record admitting that most people don't attempt to get this movie....
    • That may be on purpose, see Rewatch Bonus.
    • The Extended/Directors Cut makes it easier to make sense of!
  • Alternate Aesop Interpretation: Pick your AESOP, any AESOP -- at least 5 morals of the story on the main page, but there are SO many more... and that's without the alleged Broken Aesop first timers.
  • Better on DVD: The film had an extended cut that is more true to Snyder's vision.
  • Broken Aesop / Lost Aesop / Clueless Aesop: Feminism means acting like a whore! Women die when they try! Baby is a doll and a babe and I'm turned on by her innocence and that's the DIRECTORS FAULT, not my own!!! Boobies all over the place and all of the Fanservice means it's a comic book film! Trying to escape is bad! There is no such thing as sacrifice for a bigger reason, Blue gets away with everything that he did... hahahaha no!
  • Critical Backlash: Despite all the negative reactions from critics regarding the Feminism parts of the movie. It's heading towards Cult Classic, and getting discovered by some feminists as being not as bad as people said, because it's simply not that bad.
  • Cult Classic: Heading straight for this due to it's habit of getting lodged in people's minds no matter what, and the Vindicated by History elements. Also has a small but committed fan base of feminists and otherwise.
  • Complaining About People Not Liking the Show: Some pretty defensive young fans of the movie exist -- the side effect of becoming a Cult Classic and affecting people deeply.
  • Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch: Very few of the people who have "watched" this movie got it entirely the first time (Rewatch Bonus), and many complained about it.
  • Complete Monster: Baby Doll's stepfather and Blue.
  • Crowning Music of Awesome: Good Lord, where to start?
  • Dropped a Bridge on Them: Amber and Blondie are suddenly shot by Blue with no warning, and the movie rather quickly moves on to Baby Doll stealing the key and the escape beginning.
    • YMMV depends if they really died or Baby Doll just didn't allow them to escape/they actually were not capable to live in the real world and many many other reasons like they didn't die actually (Never Found the Body) and it's a Sound-Only Death and sometimes you just gotta escape..
  • Fridge Horror: Shortly before the film was released, an animated short called The Trenches was put online. It shows a fully-human German soldier being killed and converted into one of the clockwork zombies that the girls mow down by the hundred. It's made abundantly clear that at least part of the soldier's humanity remains even after his conversion, meaning that the Wiseman's "Don't worry, they're not human" speech wasn't entirely true.
    • Actually, that could be Foreshadowing. That part of the soldiers' humanity is trapped in a clockwork body, unable to fight their programming or return to the lives they once had. Death is their only way out of that fate. Like Baby Doll's situation regarding the lobotomy.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Compare and contrast Paramore's "Brick by Boring Brick", from 2010, the year before the film's release. Blond protagonist, Alice in Wonderland-inspired theme of escaping reality, tons of CG.

Well you built up a world of magic/Because your real life is tragic/Yeah you built up a world of magic...

  • Hate Dumb: Some people hated being made to think during the action sequences and made to feel guilty. It really did throw a few people for a loop.
    • That's without the people who just hate it the first time around and never look any deeper.
    • Some people hate it because of it's non-sexual photography and editing. You CANNOT see nipples and boobs and ass, and THAT IS HORRIBLE THING even in the deleted love-scene they focus on the man in the scene.
    • Double Standard / Unfortunate Implications sought out in this movie. The former list for these tropes were extremely long and to a degree false. Inception also has similar ideas, without either the empowerment/use what you have/heroic outright stated in the movie.
  • HSQ: Have you seen the trailers!?!?! They barely cover ten percent of how off the wall this movie is!
  • Idiot Plot / Adults Are Useless: The entire movie basically relies on the police not trying to question someone who is suspected of assault and murder before/after sedating her and letting one of her alleged victims and primary beneficiary drive her away and institutionalize her, or for at least five days afterwards, and for an apparently ethical lobotomist and therapist to not even think of verifying the paperwork on a lobotomy that the latter didn't think was necessary before performing the procedure. And this has apparently happened multiple times without anyone getting suspicious. Awesome to watch or not, the entire movie requires almost everyone in authority to be stupid or as corrupt as Blue.
  • Internet Backdraft: In less than a week, the flamewars already began.
  • It's Not Supposed to Win Oscars: A very common defense of the movie. Which is sad really since the girls acted rather well.
  • Les Yay:
    • The scene between Amber and Blondie where Blondie explains to Amber how to seduce the Mayor.
    • Not to mention Amber and Blondie are paired up in almost every group scene and even die together.
    • It's much more subtle, but it is there in abundance with Baby Doll and Rocket.
    • Baby Doll and Sweet Pea shared quite a lot of meaningful looks.
    • In Baby Doll's fantasies, she imagines all the girls in skimpy clothing.
    • Rocket is very hands on with all the girls, especially Babydoll and Blondie.
      • And with Sweet Pea too. In the fantasy sequence, at the dungeon entrance, she slaps Sweet Pea's butt to signal her to move forward. It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, but it's there.
      • She also slaps Sweet Pea's butt in the bordello fantasy, before "finishing her tour". Kinky.
    • "I don't bite (too hard)" is said outright by Rocket.
  • Memetic Mutation: There are many many videos on YouTube showing the "real dance" Baby Doll did. Mostly guys dressed up as she was or troll faces.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • After Baby Doll's mother dies, her wicked stepfather tries to rape her, and when she resists, he attempts to do the same to her sister who accidentally gets killed by Baby Doll, and then has Baby Doll institutionalized... in a Bedlam House run by a crooked orderly who has a lobotomist coming in five days from the date of committal. Oh, and he forges signatures.
    • Other than Blue agreeing to arrange a lobotomy for a patient who he knows shouldn't be in the asylum and does not need a lobotomy in exchange for a lengthy amount of bribed cash, he shoots Amber and Blondie, and then tries to rape Baby Doll twice.
  • MST3K Mantra
  • Rewatch Bonus: The more you watch it, the more little lines and implications make sense. The first time around it may seem like a sexist movie meant for perverts, but the second and third times you hear and more importantly see the real message. Zack Snyder's real intentions are the idea of taking command and power back from certain types of people.
  • Stealth Parody or Parody Retcon? You be the judge.
  • Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped: The movie goes out of it's way to ensure you know that you control your own world and You have all the weapons you need, now fight.
    • It also makes sure you focus on the women as they are as women, no tight clothing, no sexual dances, and the perverts get in major trouble for being perverted and The High Roller drives all of these points (Don't Be A Perv/Don't "take" a lady, ask for her/love her for herself/money is not truth or love) and so many more home. They all had to be and need to be said/implied and expressed in the film.
  • Tear Jerker: Rocket's death.
    • Where Is My Mind? cover on the soundtrack.
    • Opening sequence
    • Asleep is also well played in the movie..
  • Too Cool to Live: One could argue that Amber, Blondie, Rocket and maybe Babydoll fit this description.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Pretty much the purpose of the "dance" sequences. The final one is especially blatant, with a number of slow-motion shots of robots getting broken in detail.
  • The Woobie: Baby Doll. She loses her mother, is almost raped by her stepfather, shoots at him in self-defense which accidentally kills her younger sister, and is taken to an asylum that just screws more with her already tenuous grip on reality.
    • Iron Woobie: She loses her entire world, everything that meant anything to her and even loses one of her closest friends and still keeps on GOING and GOING and GOING...
  • Vindicated by History: Gets a ton of initial negative feedback, but due to Rewatch Bonus, an extended cut, Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped and also generally getting stuck in people's heads no matter what. It gets vindicated by many a hater.