Super Robot Wars Z/Trivia

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Super Robot Wars Z

  • The Gunleon is a repair-based mecha the Wounded Lion Sphere decided to manifest in, rather than a person or a combat-based mecha to avoid fighting. It would have worked too, if Mel hadn't been killed by Breakers.
  • When battling the Destroy Gundam, Amuro Ray advises the other characters on his side of ZEUTH that it should be fairly easy to immobilize due to its massive size, so it should be easy to avoid hitting the cockpit. Kira Yamato, being on the other side, doesn't get the memo, and kills Stella Louisser anyways (or seems to kill her: it turns out she survives if you meet certain requirements; otherwise, she dies). This is a possible Lampshade Hanging on what is one of Kira's worst decision in the series (as well as SRW's habit of showing how more experienced Amuro is compared to most other characters)
  • Tifa Adill and Eureka quickly become best friends, and Tifa ocasionally gives her ominous warnings about her visions of Eureka from the future. Garrod Ran and Renton Thurston form a Bash Brothers style friendship as well, and Garrod even gives Renton tips on how to handle a Mysterious Waif girlfriend. Although this gets more screentime on Rand Travis' route, it's present in both routes.
  • The other prominent cross-series friendship that gets more screentime on Setsuko's route is Camille Bidan and Shinn Asuka. Like Garrod and Renton, they also become Bash Brothers, but Z actually points out the differences between them (since the fandom likes to belive Shinn is a Camille Expy; both are quite different, as specifically pointed out by Amuro and Char Aznable). Camille plays The Heart, The Smart Guy and is considerate of others' emotions and is saddened and angered by the warfare (his Character Development in Zeta Gundam and Z take him in a positive direction), whereas Shinn's the Blood Knight and The Berserker who views everything as his enemy (Amuro even admitted to Char that sensing Shinn's malice when he blocked him from going on a murderous rampage scared the crap out of him). Shinn's Character Development in Gundam Seed Destiny was taken in a negative direction, and he only got worse as the show went on. While Z still has Shinn go down the drain for a while, the game doesn't take him to the same extreme that the anime did, and it begins rebuilding him as a heroic figure, which truly shows on the ZEUTH route, where he never abandons the party and goes up against Gilbert Durandal.

And for the tropes:

To be honest, I'm not very happy. The original story is complete as it is, so it's outrageous to add or modify the images and script. However, games are a different media so I think it's fine. The thing I hate most about the games are that even though they use the name (Gundam SEED Destiny), the contents are totally no good... There are many people who think that way, and there are many staff members who work really hard on making (these games), so I don't object. However, spare me from the people who come and go "Director, you're happy too aren't you?" -- Mitsuo Fukuda

    • Meanwhile, Kenichi Suzumura, Shinn Asuka's VA, calls the SRWZ version of Shinn "the true Shinn in his heart".

2nd Super Robot Wars Z Hakai-hen

  • The cross-series friendship continues in Hakai-hen, One of which is Heero Yuy and Setsuna F. Seiei, with the most prominent scene being the one after the stage Heero self-detonates the Wing Gundam. As he's recovering, most of the Wing, 00 and Code Geass cast are there to see how he's doing, with Setsuna proclaiming "You are also Gundam".
  • Movie-Renton addresses Gainer Sanga as "Gainer-san" and Sara Kodama laughs at him for it. This refers back to anime-Renton in Z calling him "Gainer nii-san", which is akin to "Big Brother Gainer".
  • Lockon Stratos tells Setsuna that if there's someone who knows how to be Gundam, it's Amuro. In one of the final scenarios where they meet Amuro, Setsuna asks him a few questions about that.
  • Emperor Zuul knows quite a lot about ZEXIS, due to the amount of battles quotes he has when fighting against most of the non-voiced protagonists. He even mentions a few specific things other villains don't normally know. HOW he knows all this is another question entirely.
  • Lord Genome and Emperor Zuul state they both are aware of the power of Geass when they fight Zero, even mentioning it's the "Power of Kings". Lord Genome also mentions that Mazinger Z looks like Zeus and talks about the Getter Robo.
  • When Chirico Cuvie shoots down one of the planes from the Godmars enemies, he and Trowa Barton comment on their choice of weapons. The Scopedog and Heavyarms possess nearly the same type of weaponry.
  • In a save-quit intermission conversation between Ozma Lee, Johann Trinity and Kamina, they comment on how they're always stuck with a little brother/sister. All three characters are voiced by the same voice actor.
  • When the Getter Team meets the Macross Frontier characters, Alto says his surname is Saotome, and Ryouma Nagare wonders if he's related to Dr. Saotome.
  • Rather than pilot the combined Ganmen via the first movie (only Viral commands it), the Four Supreme Generals pilot their respective Ace Customs.

2nd Super Robot Wars Z Saisei-hen

  • Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann uses an original story (Banpresto didn't use the TV or the movies: the original director made a new story just for this game). In Scenario 54, Gurren Lagann ends with Simon rescuing Nia from the Anti-Spiral's unit called "Anti-Gurren Lagann". Arc Gurren Lagann only appears as a final attack for Gurren Lagann.
  • The translated version of the speech Uther recites during his strongest attack is as follows:
    As the sun shines upon all creation,
    a king's love is for his subjects.
    You who walk a foolish path.
    By the light of Salvation.
    Thou shalt be saved.
  • The one who handled the make-up for Tieria Erde when he cross-dressed is Bobby Margot.
  • Wiseman is also one of people to snap C.C. out of her amnesic state.
  • Camille pretty much acts as a mentor for Setsuna during those trippy scenes where the 00 Gundam allows him to sense the feelings of the battlefield.
  • Apparently Heero is the only non-Code Geass protagonist to know Zero's true identity is Lelouch Lamperouge before the big reveal. In Scenario 38 where Jeremiah Gottwald returns, Heero and the Wing Zero is the only unit that tags along with the Code Geass characters while everyone else, including all the Gundam Wing characters, go to the Dark Continent.
    • Saji is the 2nd person that came closest to learning the Lelouch is Zero thanks to his job at a pizza delivery and C.C., but never actively got anything concrete.
  • Celestial Being is the one who repairs (and upgrades) Sandrock to Sandrock Custom after Quattre Rabarba Winner goes on an emotional rampage with the Wing Zero.
  • Pierre is also a big Basara Nekki and Fire Bomber fan; he squeals like a fangirl when they arrive. This is because Ozma lent Pierre his Fire Bomber CD collection.
  • The Kedora event from Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-hen traps every ZEXIS member in their dreams, not just Baron Ashura and Kouji Kabuto. That's why you see various events from each respective series.
  • Like the Protodevlin, Dimensional Beasts are affected by Basara's singing, damaging them in the process. Likewise, the Vajra are demoralized by Basara's songs. Basara's sound disrupts Grace's control hence why he does damage to her. For Gaioh, Basara is hitting him with life energy, which is probably something a being controlling dimensional energies doesn't particularly like when it comes to battle even if he likes it.
  • Ribbons Almark has character-specific dialogue for Camille, Quattro Baggina, Amuro (several unique battle quotes directly referencing him), Heero (though he's just talking about the "Zero System"), the colony Gundams as a whole, the Gundam DX and Turn a Gundam (he refers to them as the "world-destroying Gundams"), the Destiny, Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice (he brings back the "Freedom, Justice, Destiny" motive The Edel and The Edel Bernal had back in Z), Shinn and Kira. He actually refers to Camille, Shinn and Kira by their full names.
  • Kallen Kozuki gets a lot of interaction with the Gundam 00 cast. Not only does she visit Saji Crossroad in his cell on the Ptolemias, she gradually gets it into his thick skull about the world situation. Notably, when he repeatedly calls her out as a terrorist, Kallen doesn't accepts the accusation. Later, she's also responsible for motivating Sumeragi li Noriega to return, rather than Setsuna, as he promptly leaves her with Kallen, who he thinks can talk to her better because "they're both women". While Kallen believes this is the dumbest thing she's ever heard, she manages to convince her when she tells Sumeragi the story of her mother.
  • The telepathic conversation that Alto, Ranka Lee and Sheryl Nome have during the Macross Frontier finale is facilitated by Setsuna using the TRANS-AM Burst in the 00 Raiser.
  • In one of the route splits mid-game, ZEXIS is watching Ranka's concert. Setsuna and Heero are talking about the power of Ranka's song, but Lacus Clyne corrects them and explains her song is not about power but rather a feeling. Unfortunately, both are slightly confused:

Setsuna: Do you know what she's saying?
Heero: Not in the slightest.

  • Crowe and Marylin's relationship is pretty much a Hilarious in Hindsight if you take into account their voice actors portrayed Keitaro Urashima and Mutsumi Otohime, respectively.
  • Sumeragi wrote a thesis back in university about combat with unmanned units. This ended up as the concept behind the Mobile Dolls, which was what led Sumeragi to quit the Organization of Zodiac. They decided to put them in stuff found from ZEUTH's world
  • Saisei-hen ties in Charles zi Britannia and C.C. to the plot by making the Code be a mark of the Black Knowledge. After Charles dies in the Sword of Akasha, Lelouch and C.C. discover the ultimate end of the universe, with the former at least trying to think of a way to avert it.
    • Also, the power of Geass is revealed to share the same roots as the Overmen of Armored Trooper VOTOMS: an ability that exists so that humans may protect themselves from Ba'al.
  • The Abyss is a rupture in the dimensional boundary line that connects the various worlds. It only opens at specific times and conditions, but allows safe passage between worlds with correct timing. The Eternal is able to use it to travel to the world of ZEXIS on instructions from Gen Fudou, who appears to be the only person capable of moving between worlds at will. The Abyss is also responsible for triggering the Anti-Spiral's Human Extinction System. Because the Abyss is currently acting as a conduit between the worlds of ZEUTH and ZEXIS, the system calculates both worlds' human populations together. With a combined total exceeding ten billion, it initiates the second phase.
  • Every person with access to the Black Knowledge is trying in their own way to resist fate. Dr. Hell wants to conquer the world so he can use all of Earth's means to fight against it. Wiseman wants humanity to evolve through conflict in order to fight the Ba'al and, failing that, for Chirico to inherit his powers and knowledge to fight in his stead. Lord Genome knows that the Spiral Nemesis is part of the Ba'al, thus works with the Anti-Spiral to suppress all Spiral beings. Charles and V.V. aim to convert all of humanity into a single consciousness so they can survive it.
  • It appears the Zero System was also part of Aeolia Schenberg's plans. This implies the system was designed over 200 years ago along with VEDA. In a way, this sort of appears to be a Homage to the Isaac Asimov Foundation trilogy, where the Zero System functions as the "Second Foundation" or backup for VEDA should the plan ever get derailed.
  • Kira has unique battle dialogue (while attacking and evading, possibly taking damage, too) when fighting Gino Weinberg and Brera Stern, where he refers to them by name; Gino returns the favor (instead, he refers to Kira by his full name). All three characters are voiced by Soichiro Hoshi.
  • Mikhail Blanc doesn't think Lyle Dylandy is fit to take the place of Lockon since he isn't a dedicated sniper, even more so since Mikhail took it upon himself to pick up the slack after Neil dies. Following the mission where Mikhail, Gain and Lyle needed to snipe a Dimensional Beast, Lyle comes through perfectly and he decides he's fit to take over, after all.
  • During stage 27 (Zero vs Zero) when the main force arrives, attacking Heero in his Wing Zero with the following people will result in a special dialogue in which they either briefly manage to get through to Heero (resulting in Heero getting a 5 morale decrease) or enrage the Zero System further (Heero gets 5 morale increase):
    • Will decrease Heero's morale:
      • Quatre, Kamille, Basara
    • Will increase Heero's morale:
      • Lelouch, Setsuna, Crowe

Tropes

  • Fan Nickname:
    • "Sexsuko" for Setsuko or "Blandsuko" for being overshadowed by Rand. Others includes "Wangstuko" and "Setsubou", a play on the Japanese word for "despair" (it Makes Sense in Context).
    • "Super Terrorist Wars" for Hakai-hen, due to the presence of The Black Knights, Celestial Being, the Gundam Wing pilots and the Dancougar Nova team. Technically, Team Dai-Gurren are revolutionaries as well, although not necessarily terrorists to the extent of the former, thanks to the Beastmen being a clearly different species and more aware of why their enemies hate them.
    • Nia's cut-in during one of the Dai-Gurren's attacks is labelled as "OBJECTION!" or "Nia Wright".
    • The Dimensional Monsters are DAMON for Dat Annoying MONster.
  • Name's the Same: One has to wonder how they're going to explain the difference between Overmen and Overmen.
  • The Other Darrin: A notable case with a few of the debut series: both Orguss' Olson and Baldios' Flick (two roles originally done by the late Hirotaka Suzuoki) are done here by Kenyuu Horiuchi and Keiji Fujiwara, respectively; Fujiwara also did Godsigma's Gagan due to death of Mikio Terashima. Likewise, Takumi Yamazaki and Tomokazu Seki take over the roles of Marin and Toshiya for the late Kaneto Shiozawa and Kei Tomiyama. Averted in the case of Bright and Banjou (two other Suzuoki roles) as Z uses old audio clips from previous games.
  • What Could Have Been: The Baldios storyline continues after its..."interesting ending" in the anime and goes into the movie storyline, suggesting that this was how it was supposed to be all along. This is even noted in Baldios' encyclopedia entry.
    • Files uncovered after Z was hacked include Amuro's voice files for supporting Usso Evin and Judau Ashta. Considering the things Terada said in Hakai-hen's announcement, both were probably considered, but only Victory was implied to be in a future game and ZZ seems to have been dropped due to story issues and Bandai and Sunrise's agenda for it.