The Borgias/YMMV

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  • Complete Monster: Ludovico il Moro, Duke of Milan. Giovanni Sforza probably counts too- yes, he's finally stopped brutally raping Lucrezia on a nightly basis and treats her with dignity and respect now, but it's only because Lucrezia and her boyfriend arranged for him to be injured and put out of commission.
  • Copy Cat Sue: In-universe, Ursula to Lucrezia. With her blond hair, hairnets, the way she meets Cesare directly after his dance with Lucrezia, and abusive husband, she is basically a stand in for Lucrezia that Cesare can actually have an affair with without incest.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: Cezare and Lucrezia, so far.
  • Fetish Retardant: Juan and Sancia's chemistry exploding into sexual passion? Hot! Juan and Sancia's chemistry exploding into sexual passion against the table where Sancia's father has seated a bunch of dead, mummified bodies? OH GOD NO MAKE IT STOP.
  • Foe Yay: Both Cesare and Rodrigo have this for Caterina Sforza. When trying to get the Sforzas as allies in season 2, Rodrigo talks about how he wants to feel her "beauteous lips on our...papal ring" (complete with extremely suggestive pause). Cesare later repeats this line pretty much verbatim when he meets her to persuade her to come to Rome. Her conversations with him are dripping with innuendo from both parties. They screw each other passionately for a couple of nights, only for her to openly defy the Borgias in the morning.
  • Fridge Horror: Giovanni Sforza repeatedly rapes & abuses Lucrezia. This ( because of the Truth in Television of that time) would be frightening enough but, (if actual history is to be respected) it gets worse Giovanna had already married Maddalena Gonzaga ,whom (who?) was 17 at the time, before she died and he married Lucrezia. Then, after the annulment of his and Lucrezia's marriage, he (in about 1504) he married Ginevra Tiepolo. This troper knows that the Real Giovanni Sforza was probably not as much as a monster as in the show,but still, in the show-verse, Fridge-Horror
  • Ho Yay: Micheletto and Cesare. With themes of Too Kinky to Torture in that whipping scene, no less. Oh my.
    • Micheletto and della Rovere, with even further torture.
    • Cesare and Machiavelli.
    • Cesare and Djem in "The Moor", with Djem calling Cesare's name as he's dying and clutching him tightly.
    • Lucrezia and Giulia when the latter teaches the former how to kiss.
  • Idiot Plot: After Paolo's death Lucrezia refuses to feed her baby. While everyone is looking for a solution because the child is starving no one thinks about finding a wet nurse (an issue that had been talked about in the first episode, and never again).
    • And yet possibly avoided with the other plot in the episode being more or less solved in the first quarter. Lucrezia knows Paolo cannot read or write, knows Cesare arranged the meeting, her mother allowed it...but that Juan attacked Pablo for even speaking to her. Rodrigo and Cesare confront Juan...who is, true to his character proud of what he did to defend the family's "honor" and confesses. But see also They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot.
  • Incest Yay Shipping: The majority of Internet fans ship Cesare and Lucrezia.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Cesare is this in more ways than one. He's already the other kind of bastard, spends most of his free time plotting with his dad, manages to see problems patriarch Rodrigo missed from a mile away, and managed to escape the French troops in no time. Admittedly, his guards were Too Dumb to Live, but still.
    • Rodrigo reaches this in some aspects, but his being a Horrible Judge of Character makes him fall short in others.
    • The last two episodes of Season 1 show Lucrezia to be either a Magnificent Bitch or a Guile Hero.
    • The three of them each have subtley different takes on this trope. Rodrigo is at his best with one-on-one manipulation and charm. Cesare is mainly The Strategist and prefers to cleverly outwit the enemy rather than manipulate him. Lucrezia relies mainly on personal magnetism and an innocent persona that is only partly an act.
  • Memetic Mutation: Ursula is referred to as Squidward on LiveJournal and Tumblr so often, in many cases her real name isn't even brought up and the fans still know who's being discussed.
    • Any meme associated with trolling already and then put in conjunction with Juan. Hell, his nickname is "Juantroll".
      • It's become very popular on Tumblr to compare the Borgia family to the Bluths from Arrested Development- particularly Cesare to Michael and Juan to GOB.
  • Moral Event Horizon
    • Cesare's candidates: He ordered the murder of an innocent bystander in order to save his father's political career. Building a relationship with Ursula completely around lies, then killing her husband. The ruthless torture of French soldiers, and lastly, the murder of Giovanni Sforza, though we hardly mourn for either. .
    • Juan's Curb Stomp Battle with Theo, which only occurs because Juan's an idiot who believes in gossip and can't control his temper.
      • His murder of Paolo is perhaps a better example of this. Lucrezia certainly thinks this.
    • The French army crossed it when they massacred Lucca. After they agreed to surrender.
      • As an extension of this, despite his foolish inability to realize exactly how brutally the French would act, instigating the French invasion of his homeland can be considered Cardinal della Rovere's.
    • When Ludovico Sforza had his nephew poisoned right in front of Ascanio, all the while saying that he will gladly welcome French arms with open arms of his own.
  • Nightmare Fuel: The scene in 1.03 where the Prince of Naples shows della Rovere what his father had done to some enemies who'd plotted against him: fed them a poisoned buffet, then locked them into an airtight room. They're still there after decades.
  • The Scrappy: Ursula is pretty well despised by the fandom partly due to the lack of development in her relationship with Cesare, but mostly due to her Mary Sue qualities that make her appear flawlessly perfect.
  • Stuffed in The Fridge: Maria, the maid in "The Assassin". Micheletto seduces, then brutally murders her, with her death being the "proof" needed for Micheletto and Cesare to set up della Rovere to be banished from Rome. She basically dies so the audience can see how ruthless Micheletto and Cesare are, and to set up della Rovere's revenge angle.
    • Arguably, a male version with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a Purity Sue.
    • And now, Ursula is dead too. Since she's regarded as The Scrappy by most people, it's unlikely anyone will be too upset by this, even though Cesare all but lampshades the fact that her role was to make him more ruthless; "[her death] has released my heart of all emotions but one: vengeance".
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The murder of Paolo is more or less resolved in logical but very undramatic fashion in the first fifteen minutes of the episode following. Lucrezia remembers Paolo did not read or write and couldn't sign his name, much less leave a suicide note; she knows of only three people who even possibly knew about them and two of them, if not in favor, were at least accepting; and the third reacted violently to even the possiblity. She mentions Juan to Rodrigo, who confronts him with Cesare and their mother, and Juan admits it, because he's proud of "defending her honor".
  • X Meets Y: Assassin's Creed Brotherhood meets The Sopranos.
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