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Including a Trope?

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Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

So, how do I include a Trope in the Captain Britain (or any) page? I'm a bit worried about copyright, like my little accident earlier.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

If we don't have something that TV Tropes does, you can make your own version of it here, you just can't copy their version.

You can have a trope with the same name as their version, even the same basic idea, you just can't copy their trope page verbatim and have to write and fill it with your own work and examples.

You can use the Trope Workshop for that. See the Troping Utilities sidebar to get to that.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

So, I need to re-word an explanation to avoid another accident. Like: Trope: Example is worded differently from TvT.

Ah, inventing a new trope name for a trope. Didn't know we can stretch our creative juices, like that.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

>  inventing a new trope name for a trope

Well, that's something a bit on the drastic side. Renaming a trope is always a community affair, where we discuss it in the forums and make sure we have a consensus before we do anything. It's not a casual solution to anything. Although there's nothing wrong with a redirect, or even just different pothole text more appropriate to the work in question. (An example of the latter can be found on the page for Desperately Seeking Ranma, where the context makes using the pothole "Magical Girl Fanfics Don't Use Codenames" more appropriate than the actual trope name, Comic Book Movies Don't Use Codenames.)

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I meant the tropes that don't have names, Looney Toons.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

If I understand you properly, I think what you're really discussing is creating a new trope from scratch. We do that over in the Trope Workshop. If that's the case, you may want to read the Trope Workshop Guidelines to get an idea what to do.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I think the question, Geth, is simply about adding a trope entry to the work page. Jade, there's no copyright violation in just having a trope on the list that TVT also has -- it's only if you use the exact wording as TVT uses for the explanatory text in the entry that's the issue. For example, if a page on TVT had the entry:

  • Trope Name: Definitely in play in episode 299 when Alice thrashes Bob with a plush tyrannosaurus rex.

copying that word-for-word would not be permitted. But a simple rephrasing, such as

  • Trope Name: Seen in episode 299 when Bob is beaten about the head and shoulders with a plush dinosaur by Alice.

would be acceptable.

Now you may ask, "If I wrote the trope entry in question, can't I just copy it over, since it's under my copyright?" By the strict letter of the law and our policies, yes, I believe it would be okay. But I would still rephrase it, just to avoid any possible accusations.

Does that answer your question?

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Oh, yes, that answers my questions.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I know it's a bit early to ask, but how do you put spoilers in the summary? Since I'm trying to re-word the examples. I wanna white out the spoilers, unless one highlights it with cursor.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

{{spoiler|Insert spoiler here}}

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Jade, if it helps, we have a kind of catch-all page called Administrivia which has links to a lot of useful pages. You might want to browse through it and the pages it connects to and take notes on anything that might come in handy. (Just as fair warning, though, this is kind of a "scratch" page which we intend on replacing some day, and isn't very pretty.)

You may also want to visit the Administrivia category and browse through its contents. It'll have a lot of overlap with the links from the Administrivia page, but I think there are things in the category which aren't on the page.