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Punk Punk (is a mess, partially due to me?)

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SimYouLater (talkcontribs)

Disclaimer: I screwed up in the past. Didn't get completely banned from TV Tropes completely but can't do edits. Trying to redeem myself there has been blocked by a forum software bug making my posts mostly invisible to users, I'm not stupid enough to risk getting banned for ban dodging to explain that. My brother managed to figure that part about the TV Tropes forum bug out on my behalf.

So I'm not sure what the current state of Punk Punk is here, but [| on TV Tropes] it's a mess and [| the Wikia page] still has edits that came from my mis-aimed attempts at fixing that and adding to it.

I am aware this isn't TV Tropes, so this might not apply here, but the issues I saw were...

1) There was a discussion on TV Tropes about "what counts as Punk Punk". No consensus reached.

2) The reason there is no consensus is due to disagreements about...

2a) What constitutes "snowcloning"?

2b) Does it have to be known as X Punk to people in general before it qualifies as Punk Punk? If so, what about Punk Punks made before the answer is "yes, it must be known as X Punk already"?

2c) The following recent Punk Punk proposals are part of the issue...

"Solar Punk"

An actual [| trope on TV Tropes]. What is it? "Help out people and the planet even if the law says otherwise." Like Net Neutrality and laws against going off the grid. Unfortunately, optimistic Sci-Fi this decade is too easy to categorize as it based solely on being optimistic when pessimism is in.

"Social Punk"

[| Not yet a trope]. Think "flowery IT industry PR cyberpunk, where reputation is money and mankind itself is going obsolete in the face of shiny new machines for your smartlife. Has heavy overlap with Everything Is an iPod In The Future in aesthetic, but not in optimism.

Possible Social Punk

"Kidpunk"

Don't bother with this for now. I tried adding it at a chaotic time in my life, currently I want to focus on the other problems (if any) with Punk Punk.

"Biodiesel Punk"

A pattern I noticed which holds no water if Solar Punk and Social Punk don't, a combination of Biopunk (genetic engineering and related social issues) and Dieselpunk (Great Depression Punk Punk). Circuses are cheap but bread is expensive, social and genetic engineering is rampant and mass starvation leads to horrible twisted games of the wealthy.

Possible Biodiesel Punk

"Grafitti Punk"

Stands on shaky ground as [| a suggested genre from before] [| The Great TV Tropes Crash of 2008]. Related to Graffiti Town but usually composes the entire setting.

Possible Grafitti Punk

  • Jet Set Radio
  • [| Velo CITY]
  • [| Splatoon]
  • [| Sunset Overdrive]
  • [| Hover]

Non-Punk Punks?

"Splatter Punk"

Not sure? Apparently unrelated to Punk Punk settings.

"Stitchpunks"

The things the main characters of 9 are.

"Vaporwave" a.k.a "Sea Punk"

Best named as Vaporwave because this is two genres of art similar enough to have combined into one, it makes fun of the punk snowcloning in and of itself.

SimYouLater (talkcontribs)

Was unable to link to various pages needed to demonstrate examples. If someone can edit them in, I have a copy of the OP saved to my computer.

SimYouLater (talkcontribs)

So, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if there isn't a concrete consensus on Punk Punk here like on TV Tropes and I could just go ahead and start editing pages (so long as I don't make a nuisance of myself)?