Topic on User talk:Derivative

I thought we had agreed to take the protection off of the Complete Monster pages...?

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)
Derivative (talkcontribs)

it was temporary protection due to the multiple account case that @Mark D. Gordon was talking about I.E, WalrusGuy/Valkerone/etc, if you want to handle it from here on out, I have no objection.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I don't really understand the whole Complete Monster trope - I didn't see anything wrong with the edits that Mark D. Gordon called vandalism. Better to let somebody other than me review the specific edits.

Derivative (talkcontribs)

@GethN7 blocked them, the claim was they were vandals on the Wikia/Fandom ATT, so I assume due to Geth being the main guy on both, he knows what he is talking about.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I'm familar with this, they've gotten into edit wars and sockpuppeted on Wikia, they just hop to another wiki that covers this topic to keep going if their edit warring on one gets them kicked off.

It's asinine, I know, but these fools take this topic WAY too seriously.

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

As an observer, I have to agree. It's ludicrous how much of the drama I've witnessed seems to orbit that set of pages.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Sorry I'm late for this - what edits did Mark consider vandalism? Who were the vandals?

Derivative (talkcontribs)
DocColress (talkcontribs)

Thanks.

And by the way, Robkelk...

"since DocColress's definition of "vandalism" didn't match the definition that everyone else uses?"

I do not have my own "definition of vandalism." Me selecting the "vandalism" reasoning for taking down that one page that one time was an ERROR. I'm amazed you've still not let it go. And seeing as you "didn't see anything wrong with the edits that Mark D. Gordon called vandalism", it shows you were unable to recognize a serial ban evader and vandal when you were monitoring and interacting with them, on three different sock accounts no less. That particular person is exactly the reason I became so defensive of the Complete Monster trope on this Wiki in the first place, so I would really not AT ALL care to see lax administration allow users like that to have their way with the trope just to suit their own wants rather than weighing examples by the criteria we have in place.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

The user was not a serial ban evader at this wiki until he or she started getting banned after my interaction with the user.

What happens on other wikis is irrelevant, and I'm surprised you keep trying to use it as an excuse to get users banned here.

If the "Compete Monster" pages are really this much of a time sink and this divisive, maybe we should do an Example Sectionectomy on them - amputate the mess for the health of the wiki as a whole. EDIT: However, a single mod's User Talk page is not the right venue for that discussion. I'll take that to the Complete Monster talk page.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Rob, I'm gonna have to disagree.

The idiots in question started crap on our Wikia branch, then once they got caught, they came here.

Doc is vindicated completely in this instance, and if you don't believe me, you can feel free to check the block long on our Wikia branch and follow the breadcrumb trail.

One of those fools even tried to sock as an imposter account (Valkerone) of an admin on Wikia wiki where they started garbage, and I'm in touch with the admin of the real account there to keep tabs on further nonsense.

Derivative (talkcontribs)

I didn't even realise the Valkerone connection.