Trope Workshop talk:Epiphany (trope)

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I don't think the Spongebob example applies.

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

What dramatic character development happened for Spongebob when he realized where the pickles were?

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

...he realized that he'd staked too much of his identity on his prodigious skill as a fry cook and thus resolved to become more of a complete human being rather than just the face of a fast food franchise?

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

For the record, I'm very clearly bullshitting - I agree that this example doesn't really fit here in any way.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

That SB realized that the fish, who keeps on complaining was actually hiding the pickles. (SB knows that he didn't miss any ingredient whatsoever). I thought that his "Bam, I got it" was the epiphany.

Okay, I'll leave it to you guys then. I thought it might count, but thanks. I'll come back when something clicks, hopefully whatever example I manage to find might be a better fit.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

While in a general sense an epiphany can be "just" a sudden realization, the definition for the purpose of the trope is a dramatic revelation that changes the character in some way.

Before we delete anything, though, I guess the question is, should the trope definition be expanded to include epiphanies that do not result in character development?

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Okay, so that way I (and others) can have a clear idea before I dive bomb on it. :D

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

...is anyone actually pursuing this redefinition?

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

I'm thinking a change to title along the lines of Enlightening Epiphany could possibly work, pending the outcome of other parts of this discussion. Also, it stands to reason that not every single one has to result in character development per se (this is a supertrope, after all), so at minimum I wouldn't outright object to that kind of redefinition. Even so, we want to be able to draw some kinda of line with regards to significance so we don't end up cataloging every single minor instance ever.

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I'm surprised we never had this one before

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I just wish I had more examples handy to populate it with. But I wanted to get it in the workshop before I got caught up in preparing for my upcoming vacation.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)
Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

Poking around for 30 seconds shows that the work was moved to the proper section at Webcomic/Epiphany on TVT.

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