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Is the description clear enough?

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Kuma (talkcontribs)

I am curious if the description on the page is clear enough due to how Robklek mentioned it was confusing. From what I can read it seems to state it clearly. I feel like I am missing something and if that's true I need to make sure to have anything confusion notified so that it can be resolved. So can anyone help me with this?

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Not well structured. It goes generally in the right direction, but somewhat meandering.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Okay, so then what would you say is need for it to be more focused. Does it need more details in the description about the trope?

Is the description clear enough?

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Kuma (talkcontribs)

I am curious if the description on the page is clear enough due to how Robklek mentioned it was confusing. From what I can read it seems to state it clearly. I feel like I am missing something and if that's true I need to make sure to have anything confusion notified so that it can be resolved. So can anyone help me with this?

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Sorry, for some reason a timeout happened and posted the topic twice.

Are Thee Houses crests really an example?

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2dgirlfan (talkcontribs)

The crests pass through bloodline and everyone who inherited them at the same potency uses them the same way. For most of the cast they're the only one shown to have them on screen, but aren't in the wider world according to the lore as I understand it.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

As in, not restricted to one specific individual, but restricted to a bloodline?

Hmm. Doesn't look like we have it already defined. And it's a Missing Supertrope to a few things. Maybe have it included with an explicit mention, then split?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

What house crests are we talking about here? Arthur, Lancelot, Galahad, Mordred, Gawain, and the others around the Round Table? Gryffindor, Slytherin, Huffelpuff, and Ravenclaw? Something else entirely?

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Robkelk, they are talking about Fire Emblem Three Houses. Well the crests do follow into a bloodline but the people descend in the family who inherit them do use them. Each person could be born with a Major or Minor Crest while also each Crest gives their own powers. So each person within a certain family could carry a Crest which would mean a specific people from specific families would use it. An example would be how would be how Edlegard has a Minor Crest of Seiros which give her more Might when using a combat art. Claude has the crest of Riegan which restores 30% of HP when using combat arts. Dimitri inherited the Crest of Blaiddyd which doubles Attack and weapons use when using combat arts. There is also how according to the lore of the game that Crests are said to be power incarnate which means that if we think as some sort powers then they can increase physical strength, regenerative abilities, and defense against attacks.So each Crest depending on the family can give a person a certain divine ability.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Ah, so the bloodline itself only allows to use it. This seems close to Sword in The Stone. Perhaps it needs its own page… if you can figure out how to name it. I remember a few Forgotten Realms examples of magic items tied to specific bloodlines, one even used by an unlikely heir to prove royal descent. And wasn't that sort of thing used in Stargate? That's 3 entries already.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Well they are inherited within a bloodline but not everyone within it has a crest. Those who inherited a crest are given prestige within the society and some sort of power compared to other people within the setting. There is also how there is also different crest with different powers.

Expanding the trope

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128.163.237.10 (talkcontribs)

TBeholder had added an interesting example to the page which makes me wonder if it could cover more. I have noticed the trope that I am trying to implement with has been used in Anime and Manga which has taken the blunt of the page. The concept of people with unique powers can be found in such media but sometimes they do not give them details or seems to follow the Differently Powered individuals. The example with Darker Than Black's Contractor but the power are not given a term by the character. This doesn't mean that the trope is exclusive from Differently Powered individuals, there are examples such as Abnormals with Abnormalities and Needless with Fragments. If it does seem to break the example with the Darker than Black example but then could it work if the description is changed in some way? I have noticed other examples such A Certain Magical Index and Tiger and Bunny. The one the resembles the trope I would say is A Certain Magical Index as the Espers in the series have their own special abilities and they even name their powers. There is also another example from Phantom Brave where there are people in the world with a power but they don't seem to have term for them. Examples from the game is Chartreuse Gale that can confine Phantoms to a physical form,Psycho Burgundy which is some form of fire or energy attack, Dark Eboreus that can take life force to gain more power, and then there are others like Cobalt Blues, Viridian Copper,and Heliotrope Blade.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I'm still not sure what this trope is supposed to be - the description is worded so oddly that everything you've mentioned might already qualify, or it might not.

This is still in the Trope Workshop, so go ahead and add them in. The worst that can happen is that you get outvoted.

Oh, and since this sort of thing is popping up, could somebody re-write the description to be clearer, please?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

By my reading of the trope definition as it currently stands, I'd say all of those already qualify.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Well I will try to make it simple but I am having trouble conveying it in a description. I have notice in most anime and manga where there are characters that have some unique power but they are grouped together in someway and form that ironically make them common. It seems to be in the different forms, such as magic, psychic powers, supernatural martial arts, or some form of unique power to the setting. They often do this in the Shonen demographic and I thought it could be a trope. One the mirror it had a different title called Differently Individualistic Powers and I named it that to compare it to Differently Powered Individual except with powers. The different between the two is how instead of having to called the superpower character a certain name like Mutant, Metahuman, Next, Bang babies, or Esper but with powers like with Quirks, Stands, and Nen. There is however Differetnly Power Individuals who may have powers that goes by a term like Abnormal have Abnormalities, Needless have Fragments, and Psychicers has PSI. Not only do they have powers in each setting but their sources are different. Nen for example is a supernatural martial art that uses one aura to different applications especially when it comes to Hatsu. PSI is psychic powers that comes into three categories and can be used by Psychicers in different ways depending on their affinity and skill in Trance, Rise, and Burst. Quirks are superpowers people are biologically born with and gain when they are born or as they grow up along with usually inherited from both their parents. I couldn't use it as Looneytunes said that it was copying the trope and how I tried to implement it but was logged on to discuss what I was going for until now with this one. For me, I don't know where to begin writing a simpler description or one that is more understandable but I can try. I wouldn't mind some help with the description if there is a confusion with it.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

I was thinking that the trope's name may need some work. I have though about 'Labeled Powers', 'Grouped Powers', 'Organized Powers', or 'Unique Powers'. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I dunno, my brain just crashed and I'm just going by description (Bare in mind I haven't given it much thought), so I am thinking that it should be called something other than "Quirk" or "Nen", if the trope needs a name change.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

That's okay, I was just curious if the current name fits the description like most other tropes.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

My crashed brain was all "Let's make this into a 'Trope Namer'", instead of being practical.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

I guess but the current title seems to works from what I can tell. Do you agree?

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Agree.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Thank you

Can anyone think any other examples

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Kuma (talkcontribs)

Can anyone help with adding example or help with the summary of the tropes?

RabidTanker (talkcontribs)

X-Men has a certain gene that turns people into mutants. I think it's the "X-Gene" or something.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

I am a bit iffy on that since the X-Gene is what makes them mutant. Mutations might what the trope describes but have people consider mutations are the term for a mutant's superpowers?

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