Trope Workshop talk:The Full Name Adventures

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Rather than giving this a better description, should it become a category?

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Summary by Robkelk

It should, and it has.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)
HeneryVII (talkcontribs)
Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I think there's a difference. "Tropey the Wonder Dog" is Character Title, while "The Adventures of Tropey the Wonder Dog" is The Full Name Adventures.

EDIT: Although Character Title is also an index, so maybe the same question should be asked there.

RivetVermin (talkcontribs)

While this is just a list of names, and yes, should probably just be turned into a category, I think there is possibly a trope/pattern present in SOME of these examples:

Sarah Janes Adventures

Sarah Connor Chronicles

Tails Adventure

The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard

The Perils of Penelope Pitstop


These are all spin-offs from their original properties, focussing on side-stories away from the series' central narrative/numbered instalments, or entries in an expanded universe. I don't know if it's enough to make a separate entry for, or maybe just worth nothing on the page for Spin-Off or Gaiden Game?

GentlemensDame883 (talkcontribs)

I'm with Henery on not being clear what the difference is.

Jlaw (talkcontribs)

My vote would be make it a category, for the sake of simplicity.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Likewise -- this is category territory. Although, as an admitted pattern in naming, it does come close to our generalized definition of a trope. Perhaps as an Omnipresent Trope...

HLIAA14YOG (talkcontribs)

Though that is an example only for the japanese version, Persona 3 post-main game mode, which is only featured in the re-release Persona 3 FES, is called "Episode Aigis". Yeah, it's a pattern to name spin-offs who focuses on side characters with the character's name on the title. I guess a adequate definition of the trope, or even a better name for it, would be "Supporting Character Is The Title Spin-Off".

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

The 14 year old girl has a point, but I'd shorten the name of their proposed trope to "Supporting Character Spinoff Title".

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Are we talking about renaming this trope to "Supporting Character Is The Title Spin-Off"/"Supporting Character Spinoff Title", or are we talking about making a new trope with one of those names?

I ask because at least six of the earliest spin-off character titles - Maude, The Jeffersons, Gloria, Rhoda, Phyllis, and Lou Grant - don't fit the naming convention given in the current trope, so a rename would re-define the trope.

RivetVermin (talkcontribs)

I'd say we should make a different trope for that, and this should be turned into a category

HLIAA14YOG (talkcontribs)

I agree with @RivetVermin

GentlemensDame883 (talkcontribs)

Spinoff idea probably should get a new trope methinks.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Poking the discussion to try to revive it and settle on a solution.

HLIAA14YOG (talkcontribs)

I repeat what I said, well almost everything. The full name adventures should be turned into a category. And the spin-offs named after supporting characters of the original story should be named "Supporting Character Spin-Off Title".

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I'm going to reserve my vote until we decide what to do with Character Title. Whatever we do there, I think we should also do here.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I like Horny's suggestion but I'll side with Rob on belaying decisions until we get that other trope situation squared away.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Character Title has been tagged as an Omnipresent Trope and its examples removed.

And this cleanup was never done:

As per the talk page, some examples should be moved to a new trope "Supporting Character Is The Title Spin-Off"/"Supporting Character Spinoff Title" (whichever the trope proposer likes better), and the rest of the examples should be moved into a category with this name.

So...

I'm resurrecting my proposal from a year and a half ago and proposing that this be turned int a category. Since it has been that long, I'm calling for a new vote.

@Agiletek @GentlemensDame883 @Haggishunter @HeneryVII @Ilikecomputers @Jlaw @Lequinni‎ @RivetVermin @Umbire the Phantom @Utini501 @Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Yes. Do it.

GentlemensDame883 (talkcontribs)

Yes to making this page a category.

Haggishunter (talkcontribs)

I agree, this would work as a category.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Three days, three yes votes, zero no votes. My new project is to turn this into a category.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

We have dozens more Work pages that fit the category's naming convention and contained the name(s) of the work's protagonist(s) than we had listed on the old Trope page. They're in the category now. And I'm sure that I missed some; it's much easier to search for "The Chronicles of Foo" than it is to search for "The Foo Chronicles" or "The Adjective Foo Chronicles".

All cleaned up, with The Full Name Adventures redirected to the category.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Thank you, Rob.

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