User:Umbire the Phantom
Yeah, well, it's all academic now. Mage, Priest and Common Man A user, a mod and a Miraheze steward all felt that IP's edits indicated he was a sock for Xandermartin98, who's pulled this ban evasion crap before. He's been locked out.
I didn't include a ping to you in the official announcement, in order to protect you from any reprisals: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Topic:W6pc1sa6031lvjs8
You're not the only one. We've requested a Checkuser to see.
Quoting from the text displayed between the "Summary" box and the "Save changes" button on every edit page on the wiki: "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." So even if the new user is a sockpuppet, he has no grounds to complain if somebody else edits his contributions. And we do prefer that incorrect statements be edited.
No, Fredaston was definitely a spammer. Rob blocked him and I just blanked his user profile. Thanks for the heads-up.
Fair enough - showing that you're worthy of having admin rights makes sense. I'll leave the invitation open, though... and Looney Toons has told me he has no objection to you becoming an admin.
Hi! I've been looking over your contributions for the last few weeks. Have you ever thought of volunteering to be an administrator here? You're already doing half the work that an admin does, and the admin rights would make that work easier for you. (I haven't mentioned this to the other admins yet - this is just me as a troper asking.)
Would you hear me out if I explained my position to you? I need someone who no doesn't hate me to talk to.
Looking back, I realize we are being pretty condescending to each other in this discussion. I don't apologize for my views or recant any that haven't been debunked, but I do for my attitude. I've always accepted the fact that terrible things have been done in the name of causes including Christianity; I also say that far too many are applying the association fallacy and tarring everything and everyone with the same brush in some cases, including with Christianity.
No, the comparison involving those "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" contests is not flimsy, because while depictions of God and Jesus have been allowed, negative depictions have not been and are treated the same way as Islam forbidding depictions of Muhammad (albeit thankfully not provoking the same magnitude of responses; the Charlie Hebdo shooting comes to mind). About the Hate Fic idea, I was thinking that it could be called a Hate Fic for the Bible, and I can see how saying it sounds like a revenge fantasy is dubious (it'd only not be dubious IF Ennis confirmed that what he wished he could do if he believed God existed) so I'll concede the latter part.
The only reason I'd say Holy Terror was marketed as exploitative propaganda is because Frank Miller owned up to his motives. I'm still uncertain about Innocence of Muslims. That 9/11 comparison brought something to mind, so I'll ask you - now this isn't to point fingers at you, it's just a question on cultural perspectives and context; how long has there being exploitation of anti-Christian (or at least anti-Catholic) sentiments post-Spanish Inquisition? We (Christians and especially Catholics/the Catholic church) are still getting flak for that over 180 years after the Spanish Inquisition was disbanded, and there's also racial/cultural context in that (see the Black Legend of Spain) but I digress.
As for the recent changes page, that isn't visible as soon as you see someone's page, you still have to click on "Contributions" to access it, so you have been keeping tabs on me in that regard. I also saw a bit of the correspondence between you and admin Looney Tunes about me (including an assumption from him about me and many Christians - that many of us have some special snowflake privileged and think ourselves persecuted because we can't force our beliefs onto others - which sounds similar to what the mods warned me not to do).
Finally, I wasn't trying to suggest you haven't been critical of it at all (you did call his treatment of Christianity juvenile and edgy), and I didn't know you've only read Preacher. At worst I made an assumption there based on incomplete facts, I apologize for assuming you were a Garth Ennis fan. About Ennis' motives, I think it best we agree to disagree until confirmation either way is given.