(quoted from your edit reason on a change to Marvel's Daredevil)
Just like at TVT, trope creation is a user thing. You know what "Hallway Fight" is supposed to be, at least from TVT's version -- we don't. So write up a trope candidate and put it in the Trope Workshop (which, aside from that link, can always be found under "Troping Utilities" in the menu along the left edge of the page). See our page All The Tropes:Trope Workshop Guidelines for advice and help on what to do.
But for future reference, please add source information and choose a license for any images you upload. This is required -- failing to do so can get you tempbanned or worse. If you don't know what license to use, "Fair Use" is usually safe. Also, please add a category for the work it's from, and if it's not used on a work page, a category for the page it's on. If you go to File:WAKE UP.jpg you will see that I've made some of these changes, but you will need to provide information on where you got the image. This is required for our copyright license.
Please reply to this message so we know that you've seen it.
Thank you.
-- Looney Toons, admin
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You have not replied to the previous message in two weeks, and I note that you have uploaded two more images without categories, source or licencing information, or more than the most minimal of descriptions. Consequently, I'm giving you a two-day "pay attention!" temp ban. If you continue to upload images without adhering to our legal and style requirements, you will be permabanned.
-- Looney Toons, admin
CC: @Labster, @GethN7, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @DocColress, @LulzKiller, @SelfCloak
Good lord. I apologize. I was not ignoring you.
I need an example before I upload any more images.
In fact, I was very confused that it never showed up in my mailbox. I kept checking after uploading those photos to see if I got a message from you about doing it correctly.
There was no notification. Just a formal notice: Thank you for your edit!
If I had received a more direct warning, I would have immediately shown up. I'm afraid I need more information on how exactly to upload with violating protocol. I am not actively disobeying you nor am I being lazy. I thought I simply needed to provide a link to the image with a description.
Can you show me how it's done after my temp-ban expires?
How more direct do you need than a message on your user talk page? You get a visible alert at the top of every wiki page you look at until you read the message after all.
(Then again, I just realized that I wasn't alerted to your replies above until I found them in the recent changes page... I wonder if something's broken. I'll talk to the other admins about it.)
Simply now, what is it that you don't understand? There are explicit instructions on the upload page, including the instruction to pick a license in Bold Text. Have you simply been skipping over that block of hints and instructions on the grounds that there couldn't possibly be anything important in it? In that case, let me try to explain in more detail.
When you upload an image, right under the mass of boilerplate buttons there are two controls which you seem to have been ignoring:
One is the Licensing dropdown. It's marked with the word "Licensing". As we've said many times, including right there on the upload page, you must always pick a license when you upload an image. Sometimes the web page or site where you got the image makes its license terms clear -- and you select the item on the dropdown that corresponds to their license. If you know for a fact that it is too old to be under copyright, you choose "public domain". If you created it yourself you pick "I created this image myself". If you got the image from Wikipedia, you choose that option. And if you have no idea, or nothing else seems to fit -- pick "Fair use", the very first entry.
The other control looks like this:
Categories (+)
Click the plus sign, and type a category into the edit box that appears. It's got a progressive search built in, and will offer you categories that match what you have started to type, If you're uploading an image for use on a work page, put the name of the page here. If it's going on a trope page, put the trope name here. This too is stated right there on the upload page, where we would think you might have noticed it.
Outside of those two controls, the Summary for an uploaded image, should always always always include the source of the image. In almost all cases this should be (at the absolute minimum) two URLs -- one to the page where you found it, and one with the URL of the image itself, with enough text to identify which is which. Give the website's name. Give some idea of the ownership of the original image and its copyrights. Use my changes to your last couple uploads as a model.
If these instructions make unwarranted assumptions about how much you know about how to edit pages and/or find your way around the wiki, let me know and i will point you at pages here that provide more basic instructions on how to contribute meaningfully.
-- Looney Toons, admin
CC: @Labster, @GethN7, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @DocColress, @LulzKiller, @SelfCloak
Thank for this. I will not forget.
I have not been actively ignoring the photos. When I was on TV Tropes I never had to worry about licences. I just took the image and uploaded it. Things may changed since then but I do not know. I was perhaps a little too eager to contribute to this site that I was focused on adding information and not worried about doing it properly. I ended up causing more trouble and I apologize.
Also, I don't want to overstep, but could you alter the description of the latest image that mentions me being a Drive-By Updater? Or is it necessary to keep that on?
I'm sorry, that was me just being frustrated and unfairly taking it out on you. I'll undo it as soon as I'm done with this message.
We have also determined that there is in fact something going wrong with the automatic notification system, although we're not sure what's actually happening beyond "no alerts and notices appear". Knowing that now, I'm apologizing for the tempban, as it was applied under erroneous circumstances.
Don't use TVT as a model for how we operate. They have historically been... somewhat casual (at best) about copyright and licensing, especially when it comes to uploaded images. We can't afford to be for several reasons, not the least of which is that we're part of the whole network of MediaWiki wikis that orbit around Wikipedia, with interwiki links and whatnot, and it's in our best interests to be just as scrupulous about our copyrights and licensing as they are. On the whole, though, this should not be a very large burden at all on a contributor uploading images -- two extra clicks in the process, and if you're really lazy, "Fair Use" is almost always safe (as I've said many times to many other users), so you can skip the actual "go and find out the license" step.
We do insist on a link to the original image, though. When we had to move from Orain to Miraheze in the wake of a hack attack that destroyed that wiki farm, we lost a lot of images; of those that didn't come originally from TVT, almost none had any indication what they were or where they came from. We're still dealing with the fallout from that, which is why you will sometimes see a missing or redlinked image on a page here. All we know about some of these images are their size, the page they're on -- and if we're lucky the image markup had a link to a work. We're trying to prevent that kind of problem from hitting us in the future.
I understand
I'll refrain from uploading images for the time being. Not because I'm lazy but because I find images to be less important than the content itself and I have perhaps tried to do too much too fast.
Thanks for the reply
No need to dial back your contributions; we weren't faulting you on doing a lot, just not paying attention to the necessary details.
It may help to consult this page: All The Tropes:Uploading and Adding an Image to a Page. This was a help page I've had half-written for several months, and I finally finished it up and posted it to the wiki because of this mess.
