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I saw your comment on your edit of Final Fantasy XV/Trivia‎

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Why did you say that "Names to Know in Anime" is not a trivia trope? It seems pretty trivial to me (as a troper, not as a mod) from a storytelling point of view.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

I just got back from celebrating someone's birthday. Anyway, I'm not sure whether or not "Names to Know in Anime" is a Trivia trope. I must have lost memory in differentiating between what is considered a Trivia trope and what is not a Trivia trope. Maybe I should take a break from All The Tropes for a few days as a reminder in case I fell off the track again.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

Okay, now that "Names to Know in Anime is a Trivia trope" is injected in my heard, I'm going to continue working.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Thanks.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

You're welcome.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

There's a difference between the band DragonForce and the video game Dragon Force (video game). You were putting tropes for the video game all over the various pages for the band. I just fixed all that. Please do be careful.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

It's because I couldn't find the option to create the YMMV page for Dragon Force (video game), but thank you for fixing it for me.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

On any page for the work, click the "Create New" button. If the page has no other subpages it'll be the eighth option on the menu, otherwise it might be higher up. If you're on a creator page, it'll be the first item in the menu. Failing that, you can add "/YMMV" to the end of the URL and hit enter.

If you don't see YMMV on the create new menu, you're probably on a trope page or another kind of top page that doesn't normally have YMMV subpages, and maybe you shouldn't be trying to create that kind of page for it. Or the page already has a YMMV -- either real content or a redirect -- so you can't create a new one.

Regardless, putting tropes on a subpage for the wrong main page skirts dangerously close to wiki vandalism -- it is the deliberate mislocation of information. I mean, use a little common sense -- just because the band has the same name as the video game doesn't mean they're the same entity, or that someone looking for video game info is going to naturally go to the band's pages. If you honestly can't figure out how to create the appropriate subpage, don't just throw the tropes on any page that happens to look "good enough".

If you want an official ruling, then here: It is better to leave Trivia, Fridge, YMMV, Crowner and other items with their own specific subpages on the main page if you cannot figure out how to create the appropriate subpage. Sooner or later the Wiki Magic will take care of it. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES MOVE THEM TO THE SUBPAGE OF SOMETHING WITH A SIMILAR NAME JUST BECAUSE IT HAS A SIMILAR NAME. Doing so from now on will be considered wiki vandalism and a tempbannable offense.

CC: @Labster, @GethN7, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @DocColress, @LulzKiller, @SelfCloak

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Agreed. And, assuming no other mod disagrees, I'll update the appropriate "policy" page(s) within a week.

Derivative (talkcontribs)

A much more simpler way of putting what Bob says is "run it by us first if you have doubts". We appreciate that you're trying to find the best solution, but putting stuff on the wrong page only creates more problems than it solves usually.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Let me address two topics, both AS A MOD.


First off, fine, I get it, we may not have a MAIN page for something. Doesn't mean we don;t have the power to pencil in subpage with material that belongs on it and someone can make the main page later. In fact, do that if there is not main-page for subpage material that belongs on a subpage.

Second, shout-outs go on Trivia pages, or linked on trivia pages if they are so long they need their own page, but otherwise, let them stay on Trivia pages.

Copyright violations

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

@Ecclytennysmithylove, we've just discovered that most of your most recent additions to Batman: Arkham City/Trivia are word-for-word copies of entries from the TV Tropes version of that page. I've deleted those entries (along with, admittedly, a short original passage that would make no sense without the copied material) because they are in violation of both our copyright policy and the law.

Let me make it clear -- the fact that a trope applies to a series is not copyrighted. The text used to describe how it does is. It's all right to take inspiration from TV Tropes, but you need to put any material here in your own words, not theirs.

You have been a trusted editor for a very long time; I don't want to find out that we have to go over all your edits with a fine-toothed comb and delete illegally-copied material. We're going to leave it up to you for now to correct any other instances of copyright violation -- but if we don't see any action on your part that's just what we'll have to do. And if it comes down to that we'll have to remove your autopatrolled status and check each of your new contributions against TVT every time you make one until we're assured that you're not just duplicating content wholesale any more. Continuing to do so after this warning will merit you tempbans until you stop or we give up and permaban you.

Please reply to this email to confirm that you understand.

Thank you.

-- Looney Toons, admin

CC: @Labster, @GethN7, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @DocColress, @LulzKiller, @SelfCloak

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

I understand.

From now on, I'll just move entries that are considered YMMV/Trivia/etc tropes to their respectable YMMV/Trivia/etc pages.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You don't need to limit your contributions, just don't do cut'n'pastes. You seem reasonably well-spoken, it shouldn't be hard to rewrite passages you think ought to be on the pages.

EDIT: Oh, please note that you were very briefly tempbanned -- pretty much while you were reading and replying -- because your most recent edit was a cut-n-paste. That ban was rescinded almost immediately.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I agree with Bob here. I know, we are missing a lot of content, but you can add it in your own words as opposed to taking it from elsewhere we aren't allowed.

Temptation is overwhelming because that would make things so much easier, but just don't.

You've proven a fine editor, so please don't do this again.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

Yes, Daniel. I won't do it again.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)
Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

I can at least give a partial explanation there - those examples were moved into Trivia from The Binding of Isaac's main page, based on the history; my guess is the TVT copy of the page hadn't had its examples properly sorted into subsections yet prior to the fork.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Ah, jeeze. E, my apologies for the hair-trigger response. Undoing the block now.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

It’s because there’s one part that was incomplete. Maybe I should stop right now and take a break from All The Tropes until I’m ready to not do it again. I’ve been under too much stress with all the events happening recently.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Please do what is best to avoid a breakdown.

Whenever you return, I suggest leaving edit summaries in case of ambiguity like this to prevent further misunderstandings.

In the meantime, please, take off all the time you need, your health deserves more concern than this place, it will be here when you return anyway.

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

As a general pointer, it might help if we clarify the origin of the moved text in question using the edit summaries, in order to prevent ambiguity like this.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Agreed there. We mention in what we laughingly refer to as the wiki rules that we should always include an edit summary when we make changes - this is one reason why.

Age of Mythology/YMMV

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)
Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)
Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)
Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Thanks.

Punctuation... I'm curious.

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Zero Dozer (talkcontribs)

Uh, just saw your edit on the Tactics Ogre characters page, noticed you did something interesting with the punctuation on spoiler-marked lines. Was there anything wrong with it?

Warning: Do not copy content from TV Tropes

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SelfCloak (talkcontribs)

I saw your edits to the Life Is Strange page, only to find out that they were taken directly from TV Tropes pages created after July 2012.[1] This is not allowed since their content is under a Creative Commons license that is incompatible from ours. I had to undo/delete your edits.


  1. TV Tropes page history for Life Is Strange

Your recent change to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure/Characters

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I noticed that you changed "1880s Victorian England" to "1880's Victorian England". Are you sure that the text should refer to the Victorian England that belongs to 1880?

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

You know what, maybe that was my mistake. I wasn't sure. Stick it back to 1880s Victorian England instead. Thank you for reminding me.

Don't take this the wrong way, but...

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You're overloading the Recent Changes log with dozens, even hundreds, of trivial changes. We appreciate your prolific contributions, we really do. But there's no need to add a few dozen characters to a page, save, edit and add another few dozen characters, save, edit and add yet another few dozen characters, over and over again. If you have to see what your edit looks like, please please please use the preview button. That shows you the page and leaves you in the editor. There is no need for you to repeatedly save tiny edits and edit again.

So this is fair warning: because of your edit habits, we will shortly be turning on a flood control setting that will limit how often a user can save changes. Get in the habit of using the preview button, and you won't even notice it.

-- Looney Toons, Admin

CC: @Labster, @GethN7, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @DocColress, @LulzKiller, @SelfCloak

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

Okay, I'll remember to use the preview button. Thank you for reminding me.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You're welcome, and thank you.

Latest video from Appabend.

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Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

@GethN7

.........For the past four years, we've been voicing our concern on ethics in video game journalism, hence the creation of #Gamergate. And with this what Appabend just read... let's call it an "article", I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FUCKING START! So trust me when I say this "article" from Polygon WILL BREAK YOU!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MshkLNuPTWw

.........It's an article with far-left propaganda. ......It's an entire article made up entirely of FAR-LEFT PROPAGANDA!

About that run-in sentences advice...

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Lequinni (talkcontribs)

The one who wrote that run-in sentece in the YMMV on Undertale wasn't me, but Tad Cipher. Still, I should have caught in and edit it.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

Oh, okay. Thank you for informing me.