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Can I ask you for $1?

We're 9 days into our 30 day campaign, and we've raised $537. That's fantastic! The idea of Orain, our message, our purpose - it means something. The belief that there can be a community led, a community ran, and a community funded website that's not ad-driven or profit based works.

Our community has believed in us from the beginning, and I firmly believe that our community will stand by us and continue to support us. It's okay if we don't reach our $5,000 goal. $5,000 was a best case scenario. $1,000 enables us to stay online another year. It enables us to keep looking at alternatives and other ways to stay online and cut costs. $500 halves that time and shortens our research ability. 11% of our goal is better than 0% of our goal.

I've made a pledge from the beginning. I've vowed to never force ads on this community for the purpose of keeping Orain alive. Ads are what separate us from the other farms we compete with. I will give my personal funds before I enable ads by force. Ads are a nuisance that you should have a voice in. We've toyed with and are developing the idea of individual wikis who want ads within their community. Some people can't donate a dollar, and that's okay. That's their way of giving and I'm down for that.

To the backers who have helped so far, Thank you!

If you haven't had a chance to donate so far, please please do. Your $1 will help make a difference in the WikiFarm world. You can help us stay online, free, and ad free.

If you have a little more than a dollar and want an Orain t-shirt, we've got those. We've also got hoodies, coffee cups, and blankets. Most of these things will have to be purchased in bulk so there's likely going to be an online store for the leftover donation drive items once the campaign is over.

As always, I want to hear from you. If you have ideas to help our Indiegogo campaign please send them to me or email me.

I apologize for spamming you like this, but I love Orain, I believe in Orain, and I want to fight to keep it alive. If you no longer want to receive urgent messages like these, please send me an email and I'll ensure that you're not bothered further.

With love,
Dustin "Dusti" Muniz
08:44, 14 January 2015 (GMT)

Previous page history was archived for backup purposes at User talk:TBeholder/LQT Archive 1 on 2016-05-31.

Please remember the protocol when adding external links

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Hi! I see you added a link to My Significance Sense Is Tingling‎, but didn't include the protocol. That makes it difficult to find the link in an automated sweep using the wiki's built-in tools. I've fixed it for you.

See the difference that adding the protocol makes?

This isn't a requirement, but it does make maintenance easier.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I'd like to make it a requirement; just because MediaWiki is clever enough to figure out what to do doesn't mean we should allow it.

A quick check of your contribution history shows that you have been deliberately deleting web protocols from URLs since at least February if not earlier. I've proposed a massive repair project to the other admins to address this.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

HTTPS and HTTP come with their own sets of cockroaches. So if a site handles both...

That one part of mediawiki can handle it and another part cannot is somewhat surprising.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

That's no reason to leave off the protocol - and it's definitely not a reason to remove the protocol from a link that already has it.

If a site handles both, then pick one. Don't go without.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Following up on this - I have discovered that it is a requirement: see Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax, by Network Working Group (T. Berners-Lee et al), published in 2005.

I have fixed the link fragments that you added to Digging Yourself Deeper. It is your responsibility to to fix the remainder of the fragments you have left scattered throughout the wiki -- you broke it, you fix it.

Please reply to this posting so that we know that you have read it. If you fail to reply before noon Eastern time on June 25, we will put a non-punitive editing block on your userID, and will remove said block after you have replied.

@Labster @GethN7 @Looney Toons @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

> I have discovered that it is a requirement: see Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax

It doesn't seem to be an RFC for MediaWiki. =)

> It is your responsibility to to fix the remainder of the fragments you have left scattered throughout the wiki -- you broke it, you fix it.

I can't even remember when picked this up, thus it's obviously not practically feasible to do this via going through history. On the upside, fixing hacky links as they are encountered will also fix the ones that aren't mine.

> Please reply to this posting so that we know that you have read it. If you fail to reply before noon Eastern time on June 25, we will put a non-punitive editing block on your userID, and will remove said block after you have replied.

Well, it's up to you. If you think this will accelerate the process, of course.


As a side note, even fixing all of them isn't going to make search suck significantly less, since this removes only 2 out of 6 versions for the same link (http|https|none × www|none)... not counting possible variants with URL encoding (which may or may not work correctly without it, too).

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

> It doesn't seem to be an RFC for MediaWiki. =)

The only reason I'm not getting upset is because I saw the smiley...

(For anybody else reading this, that argument is like saying federal laws don't appear to be on the statute books for individual cities. We're on the Internet; Internet rules apply.)

Yes, this will be a long job. Can we at least agree to not make it a bigger job?

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Uh, since all links are pre-processed by engine either way, standards for the output format are kind of... not very relevant? And wasn't the entire point of why This Is Horrible that mediawiki processes hacky links into correct form in some cases, but oops, it turns out that they are not fully interchangeable?

Also, speaking of external links: it looks like InternetArchiveBot is still triggered by any redirects, even correct ones? I see lots of wikia links turned to archive after their big domain migration ("x.wikia.com" -> "x.fandom.com").

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

That's another reason to add a scheme - so we can search for the links.

You forgot the most important part of Trope Workshop:Flying Bike...

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Robkelk (talkcontribs)

...specifically, the trope description. Nobody else can add examples to a trope that hasn't been defined, because the examples other people provide might not be examples of the trope.

Does the trope name count as an Exact Trope Title or is this an Esoteric Trope Title? If it's an exact trope title, how is this different from "Flying Car"? Is this for bicycles (e.g. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial) or motorcycles (e.g. Galactica 1980) or both?

When you add the trope description, feel free to take the "delete" tag off of the page.

@Labster @GethN7 @Looney Toons @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

Username2527 (talkcontribs)

Hey, what's up?

Why I Rolled Back Your Edit...

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

...to Moon Logic Puzzle -- the very same quote was already in the article under "Tabletop Games".

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

Haha, yeah. Pressed "end" to web originals and missed it.

A barnstar for you!

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GethN7 (talkcontribs)
The Barnstar of Diligence
For your fearless bravery in chasing down inappropriate dragon wikilinks to safeguard the kingdom of ATT from chaos, your valor is thus rewarded with this barnstar. Geth N7 - 05:44, 22 June 2014 (BST)
Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

The link you added to the Computing section of Recursive Acronym -- the MIT in-joke -- doesn't go to anything, and a search on that site doesn't turn up a relevant page. You might want to doublecheck it. Thanks!

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