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Can I ask you for $1?

We're 9 days into our 30 day campaign, and we've raised $537. That's fantastic! The idea of Orain, our message, our purpose - it means something. The belief that there can be a community led, a community ran, and a community funded website that's not ad-driven or profit based works.

Our community has believed in us from the beginning, and I firmly believe that our community will stand by us and continue to support us. It's okay if we don't reach our $5,000 goal. $5,000 was a best case scenario. $1,000 enables us to stay online another year. It enables us to keep looking at alternatives and other ways to stay online and cut costs. $500 halves that time and shortens our research ability. 11% of our goal is better than 0% of our goal.

I've made a pledge from the beginning. I've vowed to never force ads on this community for the purpose of keeping Orain alive. Ads are what separate us from the other farms we compete with. I will give my personal funds before I enable ads by force. Ads are a nuisance that you should have a voice in. We've toyed with and are developing the idea of individual wikis who want ads within their community. Some people can't donate a dollar, and that's okay. That's their way of giving and I'm down for that.

To the backers who have helped so far, Thank you!

If you haven't had a chance to donate so far, please please do. Your $1 will help make a difference in the WikiFarm world. You can help us stay online, free, and ad free.

If you have a little more than a dollar and want an Orain t-shirt, we've got those. We've also got hoodies, coffee cups, and blankets. Most of these things will have to be purchased in bulk so there's likely going to be an online store for the leftover donation drive items once the campaign is over.

As always, I want to hear from you. If you have ideas to help our Indiegogo campaign please send them to me or email me.

I apologize for spamming you like this, but I love Orain, I believe in Orain, and I want to fight to keep it alive. If you no longer want to receive urgent messages like these, please send me an email and I'll ensure that you're not bothered further.

With love,
Dustin "Dusti" Muniz
09:01, 14 January 2015 (GMT)

Previous page history was archived for backup purposes at User talk:Topazan/LQT Archive 1 on 2016-05-31.

Beta Log 86 (talkcontribs)

I could try to import some pages I made on TV Tropes here

I could only give you the links through but you and others here are free to use them. I know they have a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License, but you got my permission since I know what pages I created there and ones which I didn't.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Sorry, you can't import that under any circumstance.

Once released under CC BY NC SA 3.0, you cannot rerelease it under different conditions. Add onto that that TVT policy is that you surrender any rerelease rights once you post it, and that makes it even worse.

Legally, we have no idea if their license change or any of their new content release policy effective end of June 2012 onwards was/is legal, but we absolutely refuse to take chances since it would require visiting a courtroom to decide, so I'm afraid we can't allow that.

Those articles can be recreated from scratch here, but any deliberate plagiarism of content under a different license (even that which you originally wrote) is not acceptable.

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's ATT policy that we refuse to violate copyright law, even if we're not sure if it is legally considered such given how TVT changed their license and content policy.

Basically, we're not taking chances.

Beta Log 86 (talkcontribs)

didn't noticed that... since i have checked what a CC license was for. I got called out for my edits there recently they treated like scum despite understand how i write.

Labster (talkcontribs)

Uh... that's technically not true, GethN7. If you wrote a page in its entirety, then you are the sole owner of the content, and you can put it over here on this wiki. In fact, you can release it under any license you want. See ATT:Copyrights for details. Any portions you wrote can likewise be ported over here.

TVT does claim ownership over any content you write, but I am convinced that because this policy is a not actually made known to users, it constitutes an invalid contract. And I'd be more than willing to fight a lawsuit on that.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I'll defer to Vorticity on this one. I'm just really cautious by nature, but he's more aware of the law than myself, so his advice on this is better than my own.

Topazan (talkcontribs)

...why is this posted on my user space?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Apparently, Beta Log 86 was addressing you from the looks of things, we we're just responding to him, sorry about that.

Topazan (talkcontribs)

It's fine, I'm just wondering why. If it's a response to the forum post I made about importing a trope, it would make more sense to put it there.

Whether or not importing newer tropes is acceptable, I wouldn't be the one to do the importing, since I was google-bounced from tvtropes. (Granted, I could make another account on another ip, but I don't want to.)

Beta Log 86 (talkcontribs)

i had ask before hand to make sure no rules are being broken despite the pages I know what I sent there and not.

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Guide 2 making sandbox edits and userspace articles

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

To use your Sandbox, go to your sandbox page ("User:Topazan/sandbox"). To make a userspace article, go to the URL bar, and go to ("User:Topazan/[insert userspace article name here]") and create the article.

To keep track of the sandbox and your user articles, go to your user preferences and activate the following gadgets:

  • My Sandbox
  • FixedUserbar or FixedUserbar2

Alternatively, you could always leave links to your userspace articles/sandbox on your userpage to easily keep track of them.

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