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** Ryan Chappelle, when Jack is forced to execute him on Stephen Saunders' demands.
** Lynn McGill. While [[Unwitting Instigator of Doom|his incompetence]] led to the terrorists getting his ID card and launching a gas attack on CTU, he [[Heroic Sacrifice|sacrifices his own life]] to save CTU from the gas.
* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]
** Sherry Palmer, for all her scheming, gets a moment of emotional vulnerability as she pleads with Julia to put the gun down, but then Julia shoots and kills her before killing herself.
** Jonas Hodges. He cooperates with the authorities to prevent the world from finding out that he's dead, and yet in doing so, is unable to see them again.
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** [[Word of God]] claims they ''set up'' that [[Retcon]] by not giving {{spoiler|Tony}} the Silent Clock, the traditional response to the deaths of really important characters.
** {{spoiler|The reveal of Alan Wilson being the mastermind behind numerous terrorist plots within the series, including the deaths of David Palmer and Michelle, has had mixed reactions. many were unhappy that what they felt was a completely generic, dull character had been set up as the series [[Big Bad]] and [[Hijacked By Ganon|stole Day 7's plot away from a highly praised villain in Jonas Hodges, who was built up as the Big Bad of Day 7 since Redemption.]]}}
*** {{spoiler|The reason the writers tacked Wilson on the ''ultimate'' Day 5 mastermind was that they needed a foil for Tony to be an [[Anti -Villain]]. The problem became that, in seasons 5 and 6, every mastermind was either an established major political figure (Chief of Staff Walt Cummings, President Charles Logan) or someone personally important to Jack (mentor Christopher Henderson, brother Graem, or daddy Phillip). Then, it all turned to be the work of... some guy. Bo-ring.}}
** {{spoiler|It seems that Day 8 has one that rivals the above, with he reveal that Yuri Suvarov, a previous respectable character that wasn't bad at all, was revealed right before the series finale to be the final [[Big Bad]] of the series. It's even more bizarre since you would think it would be more appropriate to have Charles Logan as the [[Big Bad]], especially with him being more of a [[Magnificent Bastard]] than before. It seems the writers love making [[Shocking Swerve|twists for the sake of twists]]}}
*** {{spoiler|Then again, President Taylor was a good president once upon a time too...}}
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* [[Base Breaker]]: In season 7, {{spoiler|the decision to make Tony an ambiguous baddie splintered the opinions of fans. Some thought it was a nice change of pace, and allowed the writers to contrast Jack and Tony's experiences (despite their similarities) even further. Others thought it was an absolute betrayal of Tony's character, and even the most sensical motivations for his actions would be unconvincing if it meant backstabbing Jack.}} Similarly, in season 8, {{spoiler|killing off Renee in an unceremonious fashion brought either admiration or ire to the fans. Some fans thought it was tyoical 24 nature and shrugged it off, while others thought the death was cheap and just plain cruel to Bauer's already messed up psyche.}}
* [[Complete Monster]]: [[Big Bad|Main villains]] and [[The Dragon|their underlings]] frequently - and shortly after first being introduced - perform [[Moral Event Horizon|very, very bad deeds]] to prove how bad they are and so the audience can tolerate the "heroes" killing them eventually.
* [[CreatorsCreator's Pet]]: Dana Walsh garnered quite a bit of hate for her subplot involving her past, and yet continued to remain relevant to the season's plot.
* [[Damsel Scrappy]]. Kim. To be fair, she got better, being eventually...
* [[Darkness Induced Audience Apathy]]: This may have set in for some viewers during or after season 5 when all but two major characters from season 1 had been killed off. Similarly, many newer characters added in seasons 2-4 had also been killed, written off or just forgotten about. Thanks to this and [[Anyone Can Die]] it became almost impossible to worry or even care about the possibility of new characters dying since by this point the show had become fairly predictable as far as character deaths go.
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** Charles Logan {{spoiler|in some way manipulated Tony(likely through someone else) into believing Wilson was involved in his wife's death so that Tony would target Wilson instead of him. Logan was merely placed under house arrest and later [[Karma Houdini|pardoned of his crimes]], and Tony would have probably tried to target him(this was even stated as a possible reason for Tony's [[Face Heel Turn]] early in season seven), so he decided to pin the blame on someone else so that he would not be killed. This is supported by numerous plotholes that prevent Wilson's involvement from being believable(allowing Tony into his organization despite Tony being a target for assassination by Logan's conspirators and Michelle being killed in the same attempt, the fact the killings were organized to frame Jack Bauer, who Wilson had no connection with while others in Logan's conspiracy did, for David Palmer's assassination, which was a result of Palmer finding out about what Logan was up to, Logan's plan strongly differing from Wilson's to the point of strong contradiction, and overall the fact that other than Tony's word, in which we still don't know how he found out, there isn't any link between Logan and Wilson, etc.). Logan's manipulations in season 8 also support this, such as finding out about the Russians' involvement with the terrorists(he could have found out about Wilson's group the same way) and he even tries to make Jack believe it was Mikhail Novakovich who had Renee killed by himself in order to keep suspicion away from Suvarov so Suvarov would sign the treaty to complete Logan's plan to improve his damaged image, but Jack managed to bug Logan and found out the truth. Hey, it's better than lazily trying to link everything to an [[Omniscient Council of Vagueness]].}}
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Nina, Mandy, Cara, {{spoiler|Tony}}...
* [[Family -Unfriendly Aesop]]: Torture always works. Use it. They were eventually asked to tone this down.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: For a fanbase that usually averts this trope, it struck with a vengeance following the [[Twenty Four|24]] series finale. A [[Vocal Minority]] of fans became very upset that [[Twenty Four|24]] didnt receive near the amount of attention or respect the [[Lost]] Finale received a day earlier. Instead of turning their frustrations on a reasonable target (like Fox, whose marketing department mishandled season 8), they attacked [[Lost]], and by extension, media outlets that supported [[Lost]]. Entertainment Weekly and IGN were especially hit hard, since both websites had a tepid reaction to [[Twenty Four|24]]'s final year compared to their glowing responses with [[Lost]]. Whether you agree with the 24 fans is debatable, but it doesn't excuse their immature bashing of EW and IGN, or ripping apart [[Lost]]'s flaws, its storytelling devices, and its own [[Gainax Ending|series finale]]. Considering that these [[Twenty Four|24]] fans probably never watched [[Lost]] and only heard passing remarks about it, their [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|grossly inaccurate assumptions about Lost and its finale was no surprise]]. For viewers who enjoyed ''both'' shows, the sudden animosity got annoying very quick.
* [[Fan Nickname]]: Curtis is affectionately called "Black Bauer" and "Black Jack" because he measures up to Jack's level of badassery... and is black. Renee, meanwhile, has been dubbed "Jill Bauer" or [[Distaff Counterpart|"Rack Bauer"]] for much the same reason.
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** Not to mention the numerous times CTU or some other agency screws up by not listening to one of their most trusted agents, lets personal problems get in the way of their work (not that Presidents or their staff don't fall into this trap too, mind), fails to follow up on an obvious lead, is caught off-guard by attacks on itself, etc. etc. Jack himself makes many silly decisions as well, of course.
** There is also the fact that almost every season alludes to what is either a single grand government conspiracy, or numerous unconnected conspiracies running simultaneously, involving associates or members of the government being involved in terrorist attacks or assassination attempts, if not both, none of which are ever investigated very thoroughly, or if they are said investigation is not mention- for example, is ''anyone'' investigating who masterminded the plot kill Wayne Palmer yet? Or is everyone just happy framing the terrorist-cum-Freedom Fighter who ''saved his life'' and leaving it at that?.
* [[ItsIt's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: Complaints started somewhere around Season 3.
* [[It Was His Sled]]: Nina Myers and Charles Logan are bad.
* [[Jumped Off the Slippery Slope]]: Oh, Allison Taylor...
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** * Scoff* "Yeah, right. Go ahead and believe that...." - Characters say things that are obvious B.S. like, "We will catch Bauer", or "Everything is going according to plan", or "Jack will talk". The audience knows no such damn thing will happen.
** "But there're still 6 episodes left." - Characters always say, "thank GOD it's over..." in the middle of the season. It almost makes you wonder to yourself who's smoking what.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: When David Palmer's campaign goes south in season 3, he trusts {{spoiler|his wife to help him despite her trying to sabotage him in the last two seasons.}}
** {{spoiler|Suvarov}} ordering {{spoiler|Renee's assassination}} in Season 8. A quick check should have shown how well being on the receiving end of a Jack Bauer [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]] works out.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: {{spoiler|Tony}} in season 7 is hellbent on killing everyone involved in the Season 5 conspiracy, and accepts the deaths of pretty much everyone else as an acceptable loss.
* [[Working With the Ex]]: Happens quite a bit in ''24''. Tony and Michelle find themselves working together at CTU in the 4th season. Also, David Palmer ends up having to work with Sherry quite a bit, even asking for her help one time.
* [[WTH Casting Agency]]: Dennis Hopper as Serbian warlord Victor Drazen.