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== The actions of the humans on the planet ==

** Maybe there was a higher concentration in the mountains. And maybe there simply ''wasn't any'' in the plains.

*** This Troper always thought that the mountains were off-limits because, if too much mining was done, there wouldn't be enough unobtanium to support their hovering, and they would come crashing down. This would be catastrophic.

*** Telling them orally could be effective enough...or even showing a few good movies on such subjects (dubbed in Na'vi of course). If humans follow historical precedent (provided by the Boxer Rebellion and the Zulu Wars), they WILL be back, they WILL come in force, and they WON'T ask nicely this time. This is a [[James Cameron]] film we're talking about, after all, so [[Sequel Escalation|that could be exactly what he has in mind]] (Illustrated rather humorously [http://akreon.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-anti-Na-vi-stamp-152767345 here]). How else could they top the first one?

**** I have faith in Cameron that he'll deliver a good movie without stretching the "''They're back, but BETTER!''" theme too far. He did mention something about undersea exploration anyways.

**** Ultimately, human endeavor on Pandora, aggressive or not, is limited by the room allowed on an ISV or Valkyrie shuttle. You can't bring in a whole division of marines, simply because the ISV doesn't fit that many people. Each Valkyrie only holds 60 passengers max, and there are only two per ISV. And building a new ISV to accomidate more travellers would be obscenely expensive (an off-shoot comment in the Avatar game mentions each Avatar is about 5 billion dollars, so god knows how much those [[IS Vs]] cost). And if the humans some how do bring in an army (while spending an assload of money), they'll also bring tons of equipment (tanks, artillery, guns/ammo, etc.), which will result in no mining equipment being brought over either. So really, a military offensive can't be done at the same time as a mining operation, which results in the RDA bleeding trillions (or dare I say, quadrillions) of dollars with no profit in sight for years or decades. And no company would ever do that.

**** Er, I would think that it is possible to set up factories on Pandora, and churn out the war equipment on-planet, instead of transporting the finished products to Pandora. And the war can be short and ''very'' brutal. Seriously, if you want the planet so badly, it is prudent for you to use overwhelming force the first time round and be done with it.

**** There's that one brief shot during the Valkyrie's descent to Hell's Gate where you see a massive strip mine, complete with monstrous loaders and the biggest Bucket Wheel Excavator I've seen. So there's obviously been some progress over the years.

* I got a scenario for you: there's this Company, this big powerful Company; they found this place with important deposits of a very valuable mineral, but there's a forest with an impressive variety of animal and plant life on top of the mineral as well as a settlement of natives there. Now in order to acquire the mineral the Company has to destroy the forest and run the natives out of their homes; will it endanger their health or even lives? Yes. Will it leave ANY benefit to the natives? No. Does the Company goes trough with it? Of course! Why should the Company care about these people? They're not their people. Now what [[Tropers/Maki P|I am]] talking about? The Plot of Avatar? ''Wrong!'', I'm talking about the situation the population of Costa Rica and Canadian Company '''Infinito Gold'''. Infinito wanted to bulldoze a large area of primary forest in order to mine gold, using '''''cyanide''''' that would leak into the water reserves the people in the region drank; and the operation would leave practically no revenues to the country. Similar situations have taken place in other countries like Argentina and Peru and the experience was disasterous, so obviously we fought back, and won; open-pit minning was declared illegal in Costa Rica. But it may be just for now, ''Infinito'' tried suing the Judges for libel, and have been attacking the country with laws since then.

Now, if this is happening in Latin America '''NOW''', what makes you think that they wouldn't do the same to Aliens in the Future?

** Look at the end result and you just shot your own argument down.

** [[Evil Is Cool]], dude...

* [[Face Palm]]. ''The movie does not have a [[Science Is Bad]]'' aesop. Science and technology A) are at the heart of the movie itself and are what facilitate Jake's interaction with the Na'vi, and B) the Na'vi get their ''asses'' kicked by a smaller force of troops equipped with more technologically advanced weaponry! The movie's hamhanded, inyourface anvil-dropping aesopy-aesop is to respect the environment and don't misuse technology.

*** Wow, no. If interstellar travel was ''only'' physically possible with Pandora's unobtainium, then ''how the hell did they get to Pandora in the first place''? Unobtainium just makes it easier and cheaper. It's still perfectly possible or else they never would have made it there to find the stuff.

**** It's a high temperature superconductor. We have more fragile, more expensive low temperature superconductors already. Superconductors are used to contain matter antimatter reactions, which power the spaceships.