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A ''Note for Tropers:'' For the sake of keeping this page halfway concise, please read other people's posts before adding your own. We only need the one post about wiping out the Na'vi, people. Thank you.
 
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*** Also incorrect.
*** According to the movie's wiki, it is some sort of room-temperature super-conductor. So, given that the planet-tree-brain-thing was already compared to a computer network, it... sort of makes sense that unobtainium might be involved in some way? Either it's an ingredient in those biological wires that connect everything (or at least the ones in the main "nodes"), or maybe it's the remains of previously dead bio-wires, from long-gone trees...
**** I like to think that the network of interconnected flora is somehow [[Nausicaa of the Valley of Thethe Wind|purifying the Pandoran soil]], with Unobtanium as the byproduct, along with whatever other poisons the plants exhale. If the same process could be duplicated on Earth, with some way to control the poisons the plants give off and a short enough turnaround time, there would be no need to mine for the ore, plus you get the added bonus of repairing the Earth's biosphere. A mining concern should have on-site geologists; why didn't they team up with the biologists to see if there was a connection between the giant trees and the ore beyond "stuff grows big?"
***** It was created in the conditions during the formation of the solar system - the presence of it under one specific Hometree is coincidental. There IS a plant that [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Anemonid removes metals from the soil], which is being investigated for use on Earth in polluted areas, but it is unrelated to the network specifically.
* My question is more, why didn't they make a deal to dig under the land, but not bother the surface at all? I.E. go "we'll make a facility here, with an entrance to a long tunnel leading under the ground to the deposit we want. We mine underneath, are careful to avoid the roots, and get the minerals we want without bothering you. You can even help us out a bit, if you want and we can figure out a way to pay you.". Sure it might be a little more expensive, but they won't have to deal with kicking out the natives.
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== The humans leaving. ==
* I was surprised the Na'vi could even feel hopeful at all when the humans left, let alone feel they had won. It's not like there isn't tonnes of unobtanium on the planet any more - so there's nothing stopping the humans returning. And that's just more people from the mining company. When earth gets news of Colonel Miles Quaritch's [[Last Stand]] against [[The Savage Indian|thousands of vicious blue aliens]] led by [[The Mole]], I don't think they'll be happy. So now it won't be a PR problem when they [[Kill It Withwith Fire|burn the jungle]] and stripmine the place. And the humans that stay should at least have some idea, from their knowledge of history - the natives always lose in the end. So - why's the ending portrayed as a happy one for the protagonists?
** Hell's Gate is controlled by Na'vi and scientists now. You send the REAL story back to Earth (plenty of proof), it arrives ahead of the ~0.7C ISV, the RDA don't know to suppress it in time, the real story gets out. Also, for that matter, the scientists therefore control the only safe landing zone, in addition to a large amount of anti-aircraft weaponry. Not to mention the fact that the RDA broke the terms of their contract in numerous ways and may even be in danger of losing it as a result. Not to mention the astronomical cost of travel to Pandora, returning empty-handed (and with all the marines dead and massive equipment losses, at that) is likely to cost them an extreme amount both in money and reputation.
** Because the movie is a huge wish-fulfillment fantasy, because it takes long time and massive resources to even travel to Pandora and because the company broke a large number of international treaties in the process of waging a private war against the Na'vi, and is probably up to its ears in legal trouble and debts.
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** [[Evil Is Cool]], dude...
* [[Face Palm]]. ''The movie does not have a [[Science Is Bad]]'' aesop. Science and technology A) are at the heart of the movie itself and are what facilitate Jake's interaction with the Na'vi, and B) the Na'vi get their ''asses'' kicked by a smaller force of troops equipped with more technologically advanced weaponry! The movie's hamhanded, inyourface anvil-dropping aesopy-aesop is to respect the environment and don't misuse technology.
** Without Pandora's [[Unobtainium]] mines interstellar travel isn't economically viable or even ''physically possible'', meaning '''there will be no more interstellar travel in that universe''' because all the unobtainium on Pandora is part of Pandora's [[Gaia's Vengeance|planetary brain]]. '''''Aesop- Humans no go space because we just hurt teh Space Indians nd teh Space Gaia.''''' Screw Science Judas Cameron, I want a [[John Ringo]] movie - preferably ''[[Troy Rising (Literature)|Troy Rising]]''.
*** Wow, no. If interstellar travel was ''only'' physically possible with Pandora's unobtainium, then ''how the hell did they get to Pandora in the first place''? Unobtainium just makes it easier and cheaper. It's still perfectly possible or else they never would have made it there to find the stuff.
**** It's a high temperature superconductor. We have more fragile, more expensive low temperature superconductors already. Superconductors are used to contain matter antimatter reactions, which power the spaceships.