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** While on the subject of real life canon and [[Hot Blooded]] Tsundres, why is England a tsundere in the series? Because in real life Great Britain is essentially the world's ''biggest'' tsundere towards the United States! Seriously, Britain has been our allies, then our enemies, then our allies again and so on and so forth. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.

** The second case occurred with the "Rainy Day" strip. I already found it cute due to the [[Together Umbrella]] scenario with Greece and Japan (and yes, I'm a [[Yaoi Fangirl]] who ships these two hard), but it wasn't until I read a certain LJ post that I realized that Japan is also wearing a raincoat in the same strip. Which means that he didn't ''have'' to share Greece's umbrella but did anyway, even though he almost certainly knows what the act signifies in his own culture. The [[Ship Tease]] in that strip just got a whole lot more [[Squee|squeeworthy]]. --Solandra.

* [[Tsundere|Romano's]] constant insults towards other nations' [[Foreign Queasine|foods]] (Germany and potatoes; Switzerland and cheese) is often [[Up to Eleven|turned up to eleven]] in fanfics by making Romano basically insult anyone who doesn't exclusively love [[Trademark Favorite Food|tomatoes]] and pasta. When I learned about the term [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=polentone polentone], food-based insults officially became [[Fanon|canon]], and there was much rejoicing.

** This is real life, too. If you look up the other wiki page for US - Canada relationship, it mentions the two having one of the most stable and mutually beneficial international relationships in the world. Heck, I could probably go on a rant with all the information I've gotten on how much they share. Heck, go watch the video "Tom Brokaw Explains Canada to Americans"; it's a great reflection on the relations between the two. -Ashley

* In the dub, Poland is less of a Valley Girl than a gangster / gayngster, saying things like "yo, bro-ski". At first I was disappointed at the masculinity. Then: Oh my goodness. Could it be a subtle reference to Polish ghettos?!

* Same troper. The whole England/UK thing has never exactly bugged me, and the explanation of England representing them all at meetings makes perfect sense. But then his full name is put down as 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. This threw me slightly, until it dawned that since England no longer exists as a seperate entity, then yes, that is the official name it falls under. So it would be his full name, but it would also be his brothers' full names (possibly with their respective extra names stuck on at the end like the Italies).

* The fact that France stops America from drinking in the plane strip may seem weird given that we already see him drinking with England once. It makes sense when you remember [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age the legal drinking age] difference: America can drink in England's house but not in his own!

** So, it wasn't really "Renaissance times" but Peter the Great in the early eighteenth century (definitely Early Modern Europe, bordering on Modern Europe). Also, it wasn't all citizens, it was nobles. And, if the Nation-tans are meant to represent the people, not the monarchs, then this makes no sense, since the vast majority of the nation (nobles especially) hated these measures and they were reversed after his death. Of course, later, European styles became fashionable among the nobility (having a number of Emperors and Empresses who spoke only/mainly French or German helped too), but then we get into the messy issue of whether Nation-tans represent their people (who would be mostly the peasants, and still very much unaffected by this change in fashion) or their political body (who would be mostly the nobles and very much affected). Still, in either case, the whole Peter the Great thing would have been a short-lived problem for Russia, one that would most likely play out in the series by having him complain that his boss made him shave his beard and wear funny clothing that he didn't much like.

* At first I was curious on why Hungary was made a [[Yaoi Fangirl]], and once heard that it was because the country had a notorious reputation for kinky erotica (like Germany), but then I remembered her situation as a kid. She grew up believing that everyone grew a penis when they were older, which meant she thought ''everyone becomes a boy''.If you thought that everyone gets to be boys, yaoi seems to be the only kind of sexual relationship to have!

**** Okay, now explain why child rearing would be ''anywhere'' near historically accurate in a comedy series that skirts around fighting so much. It was actual [[Fridge Horror]] to this troper at least.

**** [[Values Dissonance]]. Some of what Japan calls acceptable parental behavior and [[Comedic Sociopathy]], other countries tend to call child abuse and torture.

**** YMMV ctd. This Troper agrees with the above about the possibility of a [[Culture Clash|culture clash]]. I'm English myself and was raised, as my granddad would say, 'by hand'. If I did something my parents wouldn't agree with, a smack to the back of the legs etc. (not particularly painfully or overly used, it was more of a shock tactic) would be their way of stopping it. Even now my parents sometimes use it (I'm a teen) but more jokingly, and also things such as a 'naughty step' are used for time-outs in certain countries, which would probably be the equal to aforementioned putting of Chibitalia in a shed (kind of), in my own personal opinion.

***** [[Nightmare Fuel|There are things he could have done without seeing that Chibitalia wasn't a girl.]] (Would like to add that I don't think Austria would be sexually abusive in any way to Chibitalia - he was definitely kind of a jackass, but not that bad - but this is a Fridge Horror page and the possibility hit me.)

** We're probably not going to get a strip on the holocaust. But a lot of fans use the idea that nations don't know everything their bosses get up to. It's a bit weak, yes, but since none of the characters are monsters - and Germany was once shown resisting the order to form the Anschluss with Austria, so it's hard to imagine how he'd react to the events which followed - they might be onto something. Some countries definitely don't know; Italy just cannot be aware everything which is going on. And actually Russia once expressed confusion at being ordered to help dig a canal when no-one had proper clothes or enough food... so actually, this theory might be quite likely. But, as stated, it's unlikely to go into the worst stuff. People would condemn it either way.

** Disturbing theory which explains it; it's common fanon, if not confirmed, that nations can be literally compelled to obey their bosses. So, either the boss can make them do something the nation-tan knows is a bad idea, or if they find out about something which was kept from them, they could be ordered to forget about it and have to literally do so. Better than all the characters secretly being on the [[Complete Monster]] scale, but the [[Mind Rape]] implications are pretty scary. Then again, since the only other option for why they do what they do would be that they actually LIKE killing humans by the million ... Trying to keep the characters sympathetic in this show often comes out with much more horrifying results than making them villains, doesn't it? Depends somewhat on exactly how much power they have over what their humans do. General fanon seems to be that it's the other way round, i.e. the humans control them, and [[Humans Are Bastards]]. Being a nation does ''not'' sound like fun.