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* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Jason Todd, post-resurrection. Surely, he did a lot of awful things (as [[Kick the Dog|trying to kill Dick and Tim]]), but the guy is so screwed in the inside. His family is dead, his biological mother watched when was being tortured by the Joker and did ''nothing'' to stop it (in fact, [[Evil Matriarch|she was helping the Joker]]), and was brought back to life with amnesia, suffered a lot more while trying to recover his identity and his life (as we can see on ''Red Hood: The Lost Days''), and to this day, his life hasn't gotten any better.

** Damian is a brat, no two ways about it. But he finally gets to be Robin only AFTER his father vanishes from the face of the earth, of which the whole point of getting said role was to spend time with him, is prohibited from killing in this new role, a tad crippling since he now has to solely rely on his TEN year old build to subdue the likes of Killer Croc and as a result gets kicked around by a LOT of people good and bad, and to top it all off he's surrounded by what amount to the surrogate CHILDREN of Bruce Wayne, a collection of people he loved and trusted despite not being his real family, who outright despise him. Not to mention how hellish and lonely his childhood probably was, and getting his SPINE blasted to pieces within the second arc of his flagship title. Kid's got it rough.

* [[Marty Stu]]: Batman is so [[Crazy Prepared]] that he can seem like this at times, though the fandom tends to [[Memetic Badass|exaggerate his prowess]] to the point where the lines between what he can really do and what the fans think he can do tends to blur slightly.

* [[Memetic Badass]]: Batman is one of the more notable ones. Give him enough prep, and he can beat God! "Batman can defeat any villain, given enough prep time," is Fanon.

** The second Ventiloquist hasn't been very well-received so far, as the perception is that rather than try to make her appealing in her own right, much of the focus has been on running down her predecessor to say how much better she is.

** Steph replacing Cassandra as Batgirl wasn't well-received by all. Before that, her replacing Tim as Robin wasn't, either.

** Dick Grayson is ''definitely'' seen as a lot more formidable now than back when he was [[Snark Bait|Robin and wore tights and short-shorts in the Silver Age]].

** Jason Todd, for a short while anyway. Whether or not this has happened since his resurrection, he helped save friggin' '''Superman''' in [[For the Man Who Has Everything]].

** Accomplished to such a degree with Damian that many who hated him are both surprised terrified with the fact that they are starting to LIKE him.

** Flamebird. Due to her early [[Valley Girl]] nature and incompetence Post-Crisis, her clingy obsessive attitude, as well as being a retool of an already-campy character, fans didn't take to her very well. Geoff Johns and Ben Raab fleshed her out more in ''Beast Boy'' mini-series.

* [[The Scrappy]]: Damian Wayne, though he's getting better.

** The Riddler. Not as bad as most others, but is generally labelled as the lamest of the big name rogues, with a mental disorder (OCD) that many find dull in comparison to the others. Emphasizing him as a "technically legal" villain has since quieted some of them down. Though back in the [[Golden Age]] and [[Silver Age]], he actually ''was'' one of the most popular villains, since many of the other rogues who supplanted him hadn't been invented yet.

* [[The Woobie]]: Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown and Mister Freeze.

** The Ventriloquist. How can you not feel for the guy? It ain't his fault that he has to share his brain with a ruthless, abusive gangster.

 

=== Examples from ''[[Batman (TV series)|Batman]]'', the 1966 TV Series ===

== TV Series ==

* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: [[Large Ham]] King Tut madly screams his dialogue to the ear of one of the beautiful mute [[Living Prop]] slave girls of his harem. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTQ0RHE8ZhA She tries her best to do not change her indifferent expression].

* [[Ear Worm]]: Several, including:

* [[Fair for Its Day]]: [http://tothebatpoles.blogspot.com/2011/09/spotlight-on-hi-diddle-diddlesmack-in.html This article] argues that given the [[Values Dissonance]] between the executives in charge in [[The Sixties]] and [[The New Tens|now]], the mere fact of a show about [[Superhero|SuperHeroes]] being green lighted at [[The Sixties]] as an [[Affectionate Parody]] of the comics written at [[The Silver Age of Comic Books]] was a fair enough interpretation.

* [[Hate Dumb]]: The complaints from "Batman fans" that this show nearly ruined Batman and didn't get him at all. At the time ([[The Sixties]]) of the comics this was how Batman was portrayed. Actually the comics were even more stupid and played straight (see [[The Silver Age of Comic Books]]). Batman was only "dark" for a brief period of time when he first started and then dissolved into a colorful superhero that the series represented. It wasn't until the 70's that Batman returned to his darker roots, after this show had ended. Never mind the fact that this show launched Batman into pop culture and saved the comics from cancellation.

[[Frank Miller]], 'Introduction', [[Batman: Year One]] }}

* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Those who have seen Vincent Price as Egghead [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Utj087mchw#t=6m33s and heard what the Narrator called him] will probably get a kick out of what [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw0HlB54CIw this song] calls Vincent Price's character [[The Great Mouse Detective|in a certain animated movie with mice]] many years later, or vice versa!

* [[Ho Yay]]: Obvious. Three bachelors in one house, and two of them wear tights.

** Also, in the pilot, the Riddler is ''really'' excited by seeing his assistant dress up as Robin and pose in a somewhat seductive fashion.

* [[Memetic Mutation]]: The aforementioned catch phrases of Robin and the announcer. (Notably, these became memetic ''long'' before the invention of the Internet.)

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmPehlHK3w "Ualuealuealeuale!"], a [[Memetic Mutation/Music|musical meme]] combining a loop of Batman bobbing his head like a drunkard while performing the Batusi dance with the incomprehensible hook of the El Chombo single "Chacarron Macarron." The Batusi itself is also a meme.

* [[The Batman/YMMV|The Batman]]

** [[The Batman vs. Dracula/YMMV|The Batman vs. Dracula]]

* [[Batman: Under the Red Hood/YMMV|Batman Under the Red Hood]]

 

 

=== Other examples from Batman ===

 

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