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* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: The death of Rosine, one of the Apostles. {{spoiler|After Guts mortally wounds her, she manages to fly away from him and finally realizes that elves are real indeed but she just isn't one of them. She then feels regret for sacrificing her parents to demons and in her delirious state, tries to return home, but falls to her death.}}
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: It has been officially confirmed that the anime is being [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-09-27/new-berserk-anime-project-launching remade]
** There is now a short [http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12264010 trailer]
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**** For your viewing pleasure, a second, fuller trailer has been released [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMOS3YDCSE here].
**** AND a confirmed date of release for next year. The wait has never been longer...
**** [[But Wait! There's More!]] [[Susumu Hirasawa]] [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-09-15/tv-berserk-hirasawa-eva-sagisu-compose-berserk-film returns] to compose the music for the film. Not only that, he's even bringing [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Shiro]] [[Bleach|Sagisu]] to collaborate with him!
**** And it doesn't stop there! No sir! It's now been confirmed that all three films in the Golden Age saga ''[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-21/berserk-anime-2nd-3rd-films-to-open-in-2012 will hit theaters in the very same year!!]'' '''''Massive''''' tears of joy from the fandom ensue.
**** And now it's official: ''[[Viz Media]] [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-04-07/viz-media-licenses-berserk-film-trilogy will bring the entire Golden Age film saga stateside starting in Fall 2012!]''<ref> This in itself can also count as a minor [[Wham Episode]] to those who were expecting [[
***** Everybody on the count of three: One... two... [[Squee|SQUEEEEEE!!!]]
**** Also, some info on the Japanese VAs have arisen: [[The Other Darrin|none of them are the same!]] Now before you go into a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|berserker]] [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|fan rage]], it's still too early to talk about it, but we can find some fun in this announcement. How? Well, by the irony in that the old Japanese VA for Griffith was also the voice of Sephiroth from [[Final Fantasy VII]], while the new assigned VA also played the role of...''[[Takahiro Sakurai|Cloud Strife?]]'' Whoa. How is this going to turn out?
* [[Angst What Angst]]: Luca, despite the horrors she experienced, never loses her upbeat attitude. Her plucky attitude even impresses the Skull Knight.
* [[Arc Fatigue]]: Myth Stall. Even though this is another example of Miura's infamous [[Schedule Slip|schedule slippage]], it's taking a ''ridiculous'' amount of time for Guts and his party to get to Elfhelm (or, to be more blunt, '''''[[Bored With Insanity|we're tired of seeing Casca insane]]'''''), more so than usual. All of these [[The Usual Adversaries|apostle encounters]] in-verse aren't making it better either. Come on! We need Casca's insanity issues resolved - '''[[Author Existence Failure|Soon]]'''! [[Fanfic]] won't cut it for long! We want our [[Action Girl]] back!!
* [[Badass Abnormal]]: A lot of fans argue that Guts isn't a normal human anymore due to the effects that the Nexus has on him. If this is the case, then congratulations, Guts. You have attained yet ''another'' badge of [[Badass|badassery.]]
* [[Base Breaker]]: You guessed it: Griffith. On one side, you have the fans that admire him because of all of the outstanding things that he has done over the course of the story. They see him as a three-dimensional and complex character [[What Is Evil?|who can't quite be called "evil"]], making the argument that his [[Lack of Empathy]] actually makes him [[Above Good and Evil]] (and come on - [[Bishonen|he's gorgeous looking!]]). But on the flip side, you have the fans that detest this guy because a lot of those actions ''were'' quite evil - [[This Is Unforgivable!|unforgivably]] [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|evil]] according to them. That, and they see him as a guy who ruined himself because he had a pissy temper tantrum for losing a battle ONCE. Again, [[Sliding Scale of Unavoidable Versus Unforgivable|the whole fanbase is split over this.]]
* [[Bootstrapped Theme]]: Ask any ''Berserk'' fan about the series' music, they will immediately think of "''Hai Yai Forces''".
* [[Broken Base]]: [[Base Breaker|As stated above,]] pretty much everything surrounding Griffith breaks like fine china. Also, there seems to be skirmishes of who's the biggest and most hideously vile [[Complete Monster]] in this series: Femto or Emperor Ganishka. And there are other debates, like the "does the recent [[Lighter and Softer]] shift in the series mean that ''Berserk'' is going downhill?" debate.
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*** And it only gets [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ew2Vmhqn8Y better with remixes.] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQOoPpyI1o And NEWER remixes.]
** The new film trilogy's soundtracks are looking pretty promising with such tracks as [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3WyM_Jm1E "Blood and Guts"], which perfectly captures the tragic essence of Guts' character.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: A minority of fans - possibly the same minority [[Draco in Leather Pants|mentioned below]] - really doesn't like Casca that much, reasons varying from the fact that she's with Guts - which means she [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|ain't a dutiful action girl anymore]] - or that she's with Guts - [[OTP|and not with Griffith]] - ''or'' that Guts is with her - [[Ho Yay|and not with Griffith]]. That's were you get a lot of bashing, ranging from downright cruel to illogical, like the "[[Internet Backdraft|Casca only had sex with Guts to cope with not being with Griffith]]" argument or the "Casca had sex with Griffith in the wagon ([[Insane Troll Logic|despite his severe physically crippling injuries]])" scenario or the {{spoiler|[[
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Griffith is given this treatment by some Berserk fans. Yes. Yes, that's right. A handful of fans like to disregard that Griffith and Femto are the same person in order to dismiss his [[Moral Event Horizon]] during the Eclipse. Some fans go ''further'' by claiming that {{spoiler|[[
** [[Sarcasm Mode|Don't you see?]] He did it all for her own good because it was what she always wanted from him! [[Victim Falls For Rapist|It was out of love!]]... does that mean there are actually women out there [[Too Kinky to Torture|who got aroused by it?]]
* [[Dork Age]]: Alot of fans don't enjoy the first three volumes. Other of us find it refreshing to read something about a protagonist with absolutely no moral compass.
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* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Admit it: As much as we utterly hate him above all of the other [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] in this series, Femto might be the coolest-looking villain in the Berserkerverse.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Slan.
* [[Family
* [[Fan Disservice]]: Slan uses troll intestines to appear before Guts at Qilphoth and torment him. Also counts as [[Squick]].
* [[Fan Nickname]]:
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** "Skully" is a popular nickname for the Skull Knight.
** Farnese is known as "Farnie" to some fans.
** "[[Self
* [[Fan Preferred Couple]]: Despite being little [[Ship Tease]] between Serpico and Farnese and the {{spoiler|fact that they're half-siblings}}, Serpico/Farnese is still a popular pairing within the Berserk fandom. Even though she's arranged to marry Roderick, there's not much approval for that pairing in the Berserk fandom.
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Though it is not official and it has not yet come to being, it has been widely speculated that {{spoiler|Puck's refusal to get rid of Behelit in Guts's possession and his rapt interest in it means that he will be the next...}}
* [[Freud Was Right]]: Most apostles and other [[Eldritch Abomination]] types look like genitals, fetuses or woodlice. Guts also holds his ridiculously huge sword at crotch level throughout the series.
** Rosine's [[One
** Ever took a looksie at [http://www.mrsmanga.com/Berserk/075/6 Slan's corset?] Highly NSFW. Granted she's basically a BDSM sex goddess of evil, but you'll never look at her the same again.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: From the very start of the Golden Age arc and onward.
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* [[Internet Backdraft]]: Come now: do you ''really'' want to get into another discussion about Griffith's questionable sexual orientation? God forbid if you get into the "Casca is a bitchy whore" debate...
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Guts. Despite being a [[Cosmic Plaything]], he doesn't suffer a mental breakdown; he just keeps moving forward.
* {{spoiler|[[
* [[It Was His Sled]]: {{spoiler|Griffith turns evil, everyone dies.}}
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Griffith can be considered one of these while he is being tortured in Midland's dungeons and after the Band of the Hawks rescues him. (Up until the events of the Eclipse, it's hard not to want to hug him and/or punch him in the face. However, he emphatically isn't a woobie afterwards.)
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** And in one lump sum, '''everything that each Apostle does.''' The Apostles are basically the embodiment of the [[Complete Monster]] trope.
** Rosine needs to be mentioned here. Not because she herself is so evil (compared to her peers, she is actually rather nice) but because the God hand has the nerve to hand out behelits to little girls who cannot possibly be expected to fully comprehend what they are doing.
* [[Narm Charm]]: The [[Engrish]] opening and ending themes for the anime are simultaneously [[What Do You Mean
* [[Nausea Fuel]]: Adding all the instances of [[Gorn]], [[Fan Disservice]] and [[Squick]], you make the whole series a [[Nausea Fuel]] station...
** Volume 13 deserves specials mention, of course. You don't feel that you need ten gallons of [[Brain Bleach]]? Then you, my friend, have problems.
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* [[Periphery Demographic]]: While statistics aren't clear, Berserk does have a female minority fandom that isn't completely composed of girls who are in it for the guys (to see the flip side, [[Estrogen Brigade|see above]]). It's probably because Berserk is one of the more "female friendly" Seinen series (considering what you call "friendly" in this world), with the series having a good romantic focus, but also a lot of realistic [[Character Development]], [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|cynical realism]], [[The Bechdel Test|non-flat]] female characters who aren't there ONLY for [[Fan Service]] purposes and an ever evolving story plot that you just can't get from a lot of [[Shojo]].
* [[Puppy Love]]: Schierke, the [[Child Mage]], is sometimes shipped with Isidro, the child swordsman of Guts' Nakama.
* [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil]]: A fanbase example. Most of us especially despise {{spoiler|Griffith}} and his [[Moral Event Horizon]] because of the sole fact that he {{spoiler|horrifically raped Casca}}. Most of the fandom and Guts himself agree that [[This Is Unforgivable!|the most vile crime in the entire series]]. You know it when you see it.
* {{spoiler|[[Double Standard Rape Male On Male]]}}: Another trope used by the minority of the fandom who discredit Casca that is ultimately deconstructed. Some fans say that Casca should have "gotten over" her {{spoiler|rape ordeal}}, using {{spoiler|Guts' rape ordeal at the hands of Donovan}} as an example, saying that he got over it. Er, no. [[Hates Being Touched|No he didn't.]] {{spoiler|Male-on-male rape is just as impactful as male-on-female rape in ''Berserk.''}}
* [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses]]: Poor, poor, poor, ''poor'' Casca. She's suffered so much in the series alone: now she has to be ravaged and mangled by pissed off fans who think that by her becoming Guts's love interest, [[What Measure Is a Non Badass|she's less of an action girl]]. [[Stuffed in The Fridge|Being]] [[Rape As Drama|brutalized]] [[Break the Cutie|to]] [[Go Mad From the Revelation|insanity]]? [[Chickification]], they say. Need more details and other examples? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Dresses/Berserk We have a page now.]
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** It might give one a really weird, even disturbing, feeling when reading volume 9 where Guts described how Gambino sold him out to Donovan {{spoiler|as a child prostitute}} or just how he was treated like shit by this complete asshole his entire childhood... and Guts doesn't say ''ONE'' bad thing about Gambino, a guy who downright said that the kid disgusted him and that he should have died instead of Sys (who, by all means, was the only person who truly loved Guts in his whole life, aside from Casca), just leaving little Guts utterly heartbroken to tears. Just looking at how a guy who [[Unstoppable Rage|runs on rage]] when fighting monsters, [[The Power of Hate|seethes with hatred]] toward the man who betrayed him in the same fashion, and is [[Implacable Man|brutal toward anyone]] who gets in his way ([[I Will Protect Her|for better goals]] or [[Revenge|for not so good goals]]) and how he '''doesn't''' show any animosity toward the man who created the first traumatizing event in his life kinda says that if there is one magical entity that needs to manifest itself, now that the magic has come back to the world, [[There Are No Therapists|it's counselors.]]
* [[The Verse]]: Even though ''Berserk'' is a single [[The Epic|epic]] with not a whole lot of spin-offs, so much goes on in this crapped up universe that we just have to refer to it as a single body. We usually call it the Berserk-verse or the Berserkerverse.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Griffith. Dear, dear, Griffith. If you absolutely ''had'' to go throw away all of your hard-earned work {{spoiler|by sleeping with the princess}} you should have at least taken [[Lupin III|Lupin's]] [[Berserk Abridged|advice]] and ''take an alternative route.''
** Also, when the King stormed into Charlotte's bedroom the next morning and uncovered some blood stains in her bed {{spoiler|from her hymen being broken}}, she could have saved herself some trouble by saying that [[No Periods Period|her period just started.]] It might have only had a 50-50 chance of convincing the King with all of the other evidence present, but some guys just stop with no questions asked when a girl starts talking about her time of the month.
* [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic]]: Well, it's never been officially conveyed, but you can get a buttload of Judeo-Christian symbolism out of ''Berserk'' depending on how you look at it, starting with the part where both Guts and Griffith can be interpreted as [[Messianic Archetype|messiah-like figures.]]
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: Guts. ''Heavy'' emphasis on the "destroyer" part. He just wants to destroy every demon and {{spoiler|his former friend Griffith}} after years of suffering at their hands.
** Rosine. She snaps and becomes evil after years of abuse by her father.
* [[World of Woobie]]: ... This entire planet just needs a hug. 'Nuff said.
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