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** Fangirls would like to think that he just fingered them. His scene with Beast is rather ambiguous, but it's pretty obvious that he at least had sex with the nun. Also, all over Kuro fandom, Sebastian ''always'' has sex fully clothed. I'm pretty sure that it's canon that he doesn't like being naked around humans, so there's that, too. {{spoiler|It is canon, as quote "However, the first time in my long life as a demon... that I ended up showing humans such a humiliating state. [they were looking for Ciel's master key, so they de-robed him.] while explaining to Wordsmith about the solution of the Phantomhive Murder Mystery, in chapter 49.}}
== Sebastian in his true form is... [[Bleach|Uryu Ishida]]. ==
They do look similar. A lot, if you ask me. The events in ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'' happen after Bleach, and Ishida could have become Sebastian in an arc we have yet to see. And since he's a powerful demon of sorts, he doesn't need his glasses anymore. Also, it'd be hilarious to see Ishida as a [[Memetic Sex God]]. Not that he isn't really near of one in the original series, though. He just needed to lose his awkwardness, which happened majestically. Also, he changed his name so Ichigo and the others won't mess up with his current mission/forms. He'd be at disadvantage if they decide to "cure" him.
 
If you still doubt that, [http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/RayPrower/Animu/KuroshitsujiSebastian-1.jpg compare] [http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t325/sango868/Bleach/ishida.jpg them].
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== Sebastian is Malphas from the real demonology ==
 
I saw this basic Sebastian = Malphas suggestion elsewhere on the Internet; here is a version with more detail. I shall compare text from the rather terse article from [[The Other Wiki]] with how Sebastian has appeared in ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]''.
 
''He builds houses, high towers and strongholds,'' - Sebastian has shown the power to restore the Phantomhive manor when it gets wholly or partially destroyed. This is especially apparent as supernatural in the manga chapter 37.
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* {{spoiler|It's Snake from the Circus Arc as of chapter 50}} Yeah...didn't see that coming either.
 
== The killer from the recent arc is [[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni (Visual Novel)ni|Beatrice]]. ==
 
The recent arc is starting to play out a lot like the first game in particular, though like the following games as well- Sebastian being a demon, who knows, there could be some sort of connection between them. Plus Beatrice would have absolutely no trouble committing those murders, being a witch and all. Basically, Beatrice is trolling him out of boredom. Works particularly well with the above theory that he is originally Malphas, which means he may be one of the 72 demons mentioned in Umineko (similarly to Gaap and Zepar and Furfur).
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Claude is not really demon. It's just an act. He gives himself glowy eyes and fangs with the same supernatural method he used to redecorate the Trancy manor dining hall in the first episode. (Fairy glamour? Although he might not be a fairy either, but for example a shinigami...) Claude's long-term plan has something to do with Ciel, and Claude needs to manipulate and deceive Sebastian to ensure that the plan stays on track. As for Sebastian, he is likely not fooled at all, but as a sneaky demon is hiding that fact from Claude.
 
I think it's noteworthy that Claude has a spider form while in the story of the Spider's Thread, which gets referenced several times in ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'', the spider is a saint who interferes to save a damned soul from Hell.
* To be exact, Claude is William T. Spears in disguise, which is how he knows Sebastian under his current name that was given by Ciel. William put on different glasses, changed his hair from neat to messed, and spoke with as deep a voice as he could manage in order to appear as a different person. From Grell we know that it's possible for a shinigami to work as a butler while still doing his shinigami job. Also, perhaps demons and shinigami are fundamentally the same species, which would explain why their combat and other capabilities are comparable, allowing them to make plausible impressions of each other. The difference would be that demons have gotten to the taste of eating souls, which is very much against the shinigami rules.
* As of Episode 8, this theory is {{spoiler|definitely out. Claude is a demon.}}
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== Snake will turn out to be as 'incompetent' as the other three. ==
It's ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'', what do you expect?
 
== Claudia P. is related to Ciel. A Phantomhive ==
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We only saw flashes of his intermediate stages of transformation in the anime, not bits of the final structure. The feathers are not a direct result of his transformation, but a screen he creates so that the people of London don't get an eyeful of madness if they happen to look up at the wrong time and have particularly good eyesight. Ciel was close enough (both spatially and socially) that Sebastian didn't want to risk him seeing ''at all'', and thus told him to close his eyes.
 
== Sebastian is [[The HitchhikersHitchhiker's Guide to Thethe Galaxy|The Guide, Mk. 2]]. ==
With all the raven symbolism, the interpretation that he is meant to be Malphas (a black [[Buffy-Speak|bird...thing]]), and the guess directly above (that Sebastian's true form is an [[Eldritch Abomination]] with [[Alien Geometries]]), this is the [[Insane Troll Logic|logical]] conclusion.
 
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== The "Ciel" we are seeing is not the real Ciel Phantomhive. ==
When the real Ciel was in captivity, he befriended another prisoner who looked almost exactly like him, a la [[The Prince and Thethe Pauper]]. The real Ciel was killed by the cultists, and his doppelganger took his place as Ciel Phantomhive.
We see "Ciel" get quite brutally stabbed on the altar in several flashbacks (at the time that the contract is made, the real Ciel looks like [http://i14.mangareader.net/kuroshitsuji/54/kuroshitsuji-2014169.jpg this], and the text even says "Ciel isn't here anymore."), but the Ciel who contracts with Sebastian is not wounded in any way, and even if it had been long enough for the wound to have healed 'and' the wound was survivable in the first place, there's no sign of blood. Not to mention when the contract scene is taking place there's a bloody hand on the altar still. And in {{spoiler|Baron Kelvin's}} recreation of the scene, there's the dead "Ciel" on the altar, and another boy in the cage who looks just like him.
When introducing himself to Sebastian, "Ciel" hesitates before referring to himself as the Earl of Phantomhive. Sebastian even seems quite amused that this is what his new master is calling himself, though that may just be because of "Ciel"'s age.