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=== This is a list of Wild Mass Guesses which are still possibly true. [[Just for Fun]] and silly guesses go on the [[Bleach (Manga)/WMG/Shikai Silly/WMG|silly page]]. If a WMG is [[Jossed]], please move it to the [[Bleach (Manga)/WMG/Shikai Jossed/WMG|jossed page]], if it is Confirmed, please move it to the [[Bleach (Manga)/WMG/Shikai Confirmed/WMG|confirmed page.]] ===
 
''Please add new entries to the bottom of the page.''
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* They're lovers, or were, before she met Isshin.
* Masaki is an [[The Heartless|Arrancar]].
* Aizen is Masaki's [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|father]].
 
== Aizen is related to Ichigo. ==
Aizen may possibly be the [[Evil Uncle]] to Ichigo, Ichigo's [[Hot Shoujo Dad|real dad]] or, going with the previous post, possibly a [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|(rather young looking)]] [[Luke, I Am Your Father|grandfather]]
 
== The King of Soul Society actually lives in Hell. ==
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== The vast majority of Soul Society was designed to [[World Half Empty|craptacular]] to encourage souls to choose [[Reincarnation (trope)|Reincarnation]]. ==
Well this theory explains why Soul Society's population isn't in nthe billions at least.
* Note that much of what we see of Soul Society is District 78 in Rukia's flashback and District 79 (Yachiru's description of her past and the Bount Arc), so this seems to be [[Accentuate the Negative]].
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== There is a deeper connection between Aizen and Kisuke then we've been lead to believe. ==
Think about it. Both of them seem to specialize in using doubles to get close to people. They both have Hollow conections and seem to have used very familiar techniques. And it would fit with theories that bleach is really a battle between Aizen and Kisuke.
* This, this, a thousand times this. Bleach is like ''[[Schlock Mercenary (Webcomic)|Schlock Mercenary]]''. It's a massive conflict primarily shown from the perspective of some of the more influential pawns.
 
== There was something else doing the job of stopping souls becoming Hollow chow before the shinigami came along ==
And whatever it was, it was dog-shaped. This actually makes sense for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the idea of dogs as protectors/guides of the dead crops up all over the place (interestingly, it's never said what they were protecting them from), so maybe some people saw something before the shinigamis started re-writing memories. Secondly, it would go a long way towards explaining Komamura.
** [[New World of Darkness (Tabletop Game)|nWoD]] [[Werewolf: The Forsaken (Tabletop Game)|werewolves]], anyone?
** [[Harry Potter (Literaturenovel)|Sirius]] was one of the predecessors of the shinigami, and his mission was to protect Harry Potter. He was hastily recalled back to the proto-Soul Society during the fight in the Ministry of Magic, and the veil was a disguised portal to the proto-Soul Society.
** [[The Chronicles of Ancient Darkness|Wolf]] was most probably a shinigami precursor, due to the fact that he often chased the malevolent souls of the dead away from the living.
 
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== Ururu is based on Soi Fon. ==
She was a (probably intentionally) imperfect copy made to help Yoruichi feel better about beign unable to return to the ranks of the shinigami assassins with only [[Cloudcuckoolander|Ura]][[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|hara]] to comfort her. Ururu may be slightly flanderized from what Urahara recalls of Soi Fon, but she is really focused, and follows orders possibly too well for her own good. Also, {{spoiler|their strongest weapon shown is a freaking RPG}}.
 
== Kyon's soul candy pill is the Key. ==
Like when Urahara stuck {{spoiler|the breakdown sphere}} into {{spoiler|Rukia's gigai}}. As long as he's in the stuffed animal or Ichigo's body, it can't be found. That was the real reason Urahara didn't want Rukia to have it, not (just) because it was defective.
** [[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Kyon]], you say?
 
== The first Hollow and Soul Reaper were Cain & Abel ==
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She's never expressed romantic interest in Ichigo or Renji, her "relationships will hinder a Shinigami" speech is set to a shot of Orihime playing with her friends, there are at least three pieces of really, really subtexty art done by Kubo himself that could imply at least one of them is hot for the other, and Orihime's probably the only person Rukia is consistently gentle/deredere for.
(Watch this theory be ignored.)
** {{[[User|Barano]] This Troper}} approves!
** This. This Troper completely approves.
** Third. I've been thinking about this ever since [https://web.archive.org/web/20090725223144/http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/bleach/4/228/3 the cover] for chapter 228.
*** I've been thinking about this ever since ''Bleach'' came out.
 
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* This will go on for several chapters only to turn out to have been a dream caused by Aizen's Absolute Hypnosis.
 
== Aizen fooled Momo into running into his sword with Kyouka Suigetsu's power instead of just stabbing her all mafia style. ==
Remember Kyouka Suigetsu ablity is basicly fool people with illusions so all he would have to do is to make it look to Momo that he was wide open for a hug when in reality he had Kyouka Suigetsu leveled right at her so [[I Wanna Be the Guy|SHE JUMPED INTO A SWORD. RETARD!]]
* I like the idea, but from the blood gushing out of the wound it can be seen that Aizen is only stabbing her the moment he says "Goodbye". Unless Aizen used his Zanpakutou to create the Illusion of the Blood to ''the reader'', and this just doesn't make sense.
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***** I've got to say you lost me at "utterly faithless and only looking out for his own skin." As for bringing [[Ho Yay]] into the equation, that was a deliberate leap. This is just a WMG, after all. It's not as if we knew what his reasons were for following Nnoitra to begin with, and if he's "perfectly willing to torture and mutilate just because he was told to" depending on his alignment, well, it's not as though he'd be useless as an ally.
***** Does it matter? You can blame any villain turned hero for their past acts. The whole point of the heel-face turn is that they're a goodguy now so they're giving a pass. This isn't an objection to the set up, but to the [[Heel Face Turn]].
* [[Jossed]]. Nobody was there to heal him, he was sliced through the middle by Kenpachi Zaraki, and he was last seen bleeding to death.
 
== Grand Fisher somehow transferred himself to his lure before being killed ==
Arrancars' Resurrecion allows them to use their abilities. It's entirely likely that Grand Fisher still has the ability to use the lure that he did as a hollow, and, as it is revealed in the manga, [https://web.archive.org/web/20090125162454/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/24/13/ he can jump to the other part if one is injured]. It's possible that he somehow jumped to the lure to escape certain death at Isshin's hands and is waiting for a chance to finish his fight with Ichigo.
* This Troper agrees, but believes that Grand Fisher was one of Aizen's experiments (like Metastacia), and that now the Lure and the Fisher are permanently seperate now. This Troper's own WMG is that the Lure is currently ranked 0 Espada.
 
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== Orihime lied to Ulquiorra as he died ==
Call me heartless, or what you will, but considering what she has been through: a) mentally tortured by Ulquiorra, b) being told by Aizen that she was merely used as a tool to lure Ichigo and Captains to Hueco Mundo, just so he can attack early, and c) Seeing Ichigo killed right before her very eyes by Ulquiorra, JUST HOW CAN SHE SAY SHE ISN'T AFRAID?!! Sorry, I need to emphasize my point. But I can think of a reason why she would say that: 1) Hollow Ichigo, after ripping Ulquiorra apart, reverts back to an alive Ichigo, and 2) Ulquiorra is dying anyway, which poses a question: Who would be afraid if their torturer was dying, and the person they love is actually alive? And what fear would one have of someone on death's doorstep?
* I think Orihime truly wasn't afraid, but I'm more than sure she didn't really forgive him, it was more like what Winry told Scar in [[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]] after he asked whether she forgave him or not- a no, but she was sympathetic. Orihime is kind, she hates people dying or getting hurt, so it makes sense that she would feel like she needed to give Ulquiorra something to cherish in his last moments...I guess.
** Ever heard of a white lie? Because compassion could be a good motivation for telling lies, worrying about the truth being too painful for others. Interpreting it like that, in Orihime's mind, she wouldn't want Ulquiorra to think she was scared of him, in fear of him dying without a heart.
 
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*** Worst part? Now that Aizen betrayed her trust by cutting her (she's not shown dying and saying something like "I'll reunite with my friends", just being cut, thus, giving the suspense of still having a chance to be healed), it makes this theory even more likely. And I'm going to gloat. Yes, I am.
*** The defeat order is mostly according to decreasing numerical value, but it does occasionally jump around (9, 6, 7, 8, 5, 4, 2 1, 3), making it hard to pin down, especially since almost half of the time, the Espada that was defeated was lower-ranked than the last one.
*** Complicating things a bit is the [[Two Lines, No Waiting]] nature of these episodes. Whose to say that Mayuri beat #8 before Kenpachi beat #5?
 
== Kyoka Suigetsu will have one major fault in it's hypnosis power. ==
It will be revealed that Aizen can only produce one illusion at a time. This is why he didn't just quietly go about his business murdering everyone in Karakura and replacing them with illusions and why he is having to go through the whole war to reap the spirtual energy. Seriously though, have we ever seen him produce two illusions at the same time? This could also be the reason the he sealed the Central 46 chamber and didn't just set up a puppet show inside.
* You know, that actually makes a ''lot'' of sense. Once again, brilliance occurs in WMG.
* Aizen does in fact say that he set up a puppet show in Central 46. See [https://web.archive.org/web/20090701181023/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/15/ here]. To quote "illusion of the 46 chambers holding a meeting, alive and well".
** Darn, and I really thought I might've been onto something.
*** You probably are; This Troper's interpretation was always that the 'illusion' in question was that someone was sending orders from the place (where no one else was allowed) to make it seem like there were still 46 officials holding meetings.
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== Ichigo's not pulling powers out of his ass ==
During the Hueco Mundo Arc, Ichigo has developed two [[New Powers Asas the Plot Demands|new power levels]] but both times he was being "healed" by [[Reality Warper|Orihime]]. She pretty clearly likes him and this is Shonen. Is it really that hard to believe that she's boosting his powers as the plot demands it?
* Makes sense- she does have the power to do anything she wants- so her (whether it be consciously or unconciously) boosting his powers is not that too much of a stretch.
* So he's pulling powers out of HER ass? Eeeeew.
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== Only an illusion-type sword can defeat an illusion-type sword. ==
I may sound like [[Jackie Chan Adventures (Animation)|Uncle Chan]] here, but it'd make sense. Aizen's sword, being an illusion type, would be able to make him immune to illusions, as a minor, reflexive ability. What if there's another illusion-type sword that can nullify Aizen's? What if this sword hasn't awakened completely, due to being in an extremely inexpericendes Shinigami's hands? What if '''Ichigo Kurosaki''' has the same descriptions above? We have seen him awakening his sword's Bankai, but we haven't seen him properly using it. If he did, his Bankai at least looks pretty weak, then, and needs more maturing. Or maybe it's an illusion that makes people think that's always weak, but gets progressively stronger with each attack (also, I can't swallow that Ichigo never had a proper Shikai all that time, there must be something wrong).
 
One more thing! Ichigo have never, ever seen Aizen releasing his zanpakutou, or seen his illusions. And even if he seen, who would be sure that he wouldn't track it as an illusion? If there's another clue, it would be his refined spiritual track. Aizen couldn't fool it.
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* A crazy theory I know, but I doubt miss Fanservice(One of them) was killed like that. I think that she might somehow come into play over the next few battles.
** Perhaps she gives her life to save Stark, reinforcing his whole "loneliness" thing.
** I don't recall seeing Starrks guns much in the final battle, and we just [[Ass Pull|can't have the Primeria get killed by a Shikai!]] Perhaps she can serve as the pairs [[Soul Jar]]? Then they could pull a [[Heel Face Turn]] and have all kinds of Shinigami friends to keep those [[Lonely Atat the Top]] feelings away!
*** I second this motion.
 
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[[Fan Nickname|Captain Broken]] Could probably have taken on the rest of the Soul Society forces there with the remaining Espada's and Wonderweiss's help and with his two over-powered subordinate captains, but why risk damaging his elegant self? He's a Captain and presumably knows Bankai (though Kempachi proves you can cram horrendous buttloads of spirit power into someone who otherwise lacks Captain-level qualifications) and can release his Zanpaktou without calling it's name. Also, isn't it interesting that as awesome as Aizen is it's Gin who slices and dices Hiyori rather than Aizen doing it himself?
 
Conclusion: Aizen has set himself up in the eyes of the Soul Society as being pure malevolent [[For The Evuls|Evil for Evil's Sake]] style super-villian with the events surrounding his departure from Soul Society, so a [[You Have Failed Me...]] style assasination of the last Espada doesn't seem out of character for him. He slashes Harribel, has his Zanpaktou razzle-dazzle everyone, then leaves Gin (who's in on The Plan) to help keep-up the illusion while he slips out through a Garganta un-noticed on his way to the Real Karakura town to enact his Master Plan. ({{spoiler|Where he will have to face-off against Squad 0, the Royal Guard.}})
 
 
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If this theory is true, we've yet to truly see the upper class Vasto Lordes in action, besides Wonderweiss and Ulquiorra.
 
It's true that Halibel was a weak VL, she said it herself because she refused to consume hollows.
 
== One of the ways I can see Aizen becoming more evil is... ==
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The only three characters we've seen whose reiatsu has taken on a certain shape is Ichigo, Kenpachi, and Yachiru, all in the same battle. What does this mean for these three? Please post your theories here:
* It could attest to the immense power these three possess, similar to Toshiro and Yamamoto's zanpakutos.
* It could be referencing that they're just that [[Hot -Blooded]], and not any particular indication of spiritual power.
* It could be something to do with one's "spirit type" (like the shape of a zanpakuto spirit or Hollow form).
** Such as their demon-spirit part. Kenpachi's been called a demon before, it's been guessed in WMG that Ichigo is part demon, and it might explain why Yachiru is... well, I'll just say "pretty much uncontested".
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Joking aside, Unohana has probably figured out some way to see past Kyoka Suigetsu's ability and will be the first person to get in a hit on Aizen.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20100724120307/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/381/15/ It's Confirmed she has.] She knows how to completely bypass it. I think this counts as a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] for Unohana
* And now she's heading for where Aizen is. Maybe her Big Fight will be against Aizen himself?
* You realize that by putting Unohana's name in the same sentence with "hit on Aizen" you just gave every shipper from here to the moon something to misinterpret, right?
** [[Go Mad Fromfrom the Revelation|Oh, God!]] [[What Have I Done]]?
*** Too late. I bet it's one-sided... From his part. How else would he avoid hurting her?
 
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* That...makes...SENSE! Aizen's got so much spiritual pressure, like Kenpachi and Ichigo, he could never shut off his Shikai. His command only shatters the illusion currently shown, and he merely has to draw his sword for it to re-activate it. In other words, Ichigo's already been exposed. It can go like this:
 
{{quote| Ichigo's blade passes through Aizen.<br />
Ichigo: Wha-?!<br />
Aizen appears behind Ichigo, stabbing him.<br />
Aizen: The command I give only shatters the illusion my blade creates. Not once, have I never had to speak a command to activate the illusions.<br />
Ichigo: What...you mean...?<br />
Aizen: Yes, Kyoka Suigetsu is a Full-Time release Zanpakuto.<br />
Everyone at FKT looks on in shock as Aizen tears his sword out of Ichigo, and follows him as he hits the ground<br />
Aizen: You've been under my spell ever since I tried to cut you in half at the Sokyoku.<br />
Ichigo has a flashback of his failed attack against Aizen.<br />
Ichigo's thoughts: But that means...I never had any advantage to begin with!<br />
Aizen: You still haven't learn that lesson, have you? No matter how much determination you have, no matter how much you want to win, no matter how much you believe you have to win, the difference in our powers...is just too great. }}
 
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* Second, when Ichigo and Unohana arrive at Fake Karakura Town, the first thing that they notice is that Harribel plummeting to the ground after being sliced by Aizen. After either hearing Harribel's soon-to-be-last words, or someone explains how she got cheap-shotted, Unohana shows pity on her and decided to heal her (Hey, she did heal a Privaron Espada, so her tolerance should be pretty big).
 
Likewise, there are several outcomes of this event. Either Harribel will be grateful for the save and later pulled a [[Heel Face Turn]], or she will pull [[The Farmer and Thethe Viper]], because [[Evil Cannot Comprehend Good]].
* Harribel seems to be loyal to her principles, but she would still want to avenge her three fallen companions, and would try to become stronger, so she could defeat Yamamoto. I can totally picture it.
 
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Two notable examples are Grand Fisher and Zommari Leroux. When we see both of them die in the manga, they disintegrate like this:
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20100726090139/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/188/01/
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20100724215941/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/302/17/
 
Ulquiorra does this:
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20100724055003/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/353/17/
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20100724055008/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/353/22/
 
So one of my questions is this: while Zommari and Grand Fisher break apart in blobs and disintegrate, Ulquiorra in the end dissolves into ash, and vanishes into the wind. Why would Kubo draw Ulquiorra's death like that, while Zommari and Grand Fisher went like above? Heck, even Sora disintegrated the same way as Zommari and Grand Fisher.
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And it's what Hollow Ichigo was referring to at the end of their last fight. Alternatively, UberHollow was his ressurecion, which becomes more likely when you think about what ressurecion actually means. He's going to find out how to enter that form and stay in control.
 
== Aizen will [[Go Out Withwith a Smile]] ==
This is Aizen, and at the end, he'll probably also take into account his own death at Ichigo's hands in his plans. The reason for the smile, is that he died in battle with who equates to the Ultimate Being. His final words:
{{quote| Aizen: To be beaten by the Ultimate being... (smiles) What a fitting end .}}
 
== Isshin Kurosaki is actually the King of Soul Society ==
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I say to that...
 
'''[[Zero Punctuation (Web Animation)|Bollocks]]'''.
 
I say that there is something fucked up in Chinatown, mates.
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Let's say Aizen found out and decided to expose the truth, albeit in a [[Moral Event Horizon|morally ambiguous way]]. (Seriously, all that shit he pulled on the Vice-Captains and the Vizard...[[Complete Monster|not cool.]])
 
He hatched this [[Xanatos Gambit|100-year-long Xanatos Gambit]] in an attempt to expose the Shinigami's secret. ([[Death Note (Manga)|They DO love Apples!]])
 
Granted, a major part of his plans would seem to involve finding the Soul Society King, we can only assume the secret involves him. (if he even exists.)
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== The multipile dimentions are allegories for the [[wikipedia:Six realms|Six Buddhist Realms of Existance]] ==
Note: Not actual realms like the Christian Heaven and Hell, but rather states of mind. For example, being in the middle of a [[Curb Stomp Battle]] is Hell while getting caught up in a [[Marshmallow Hell]] is quite Heavenly, but this can change in an instant (the cavalry appears; meanwhile, you discover that ''all'' of those marshmallows belong to [[Warhammer 40000 (Tabletop Game)40,000|Slanaash]]).
* Heaven: The as-yet unseen King's Realm.
* Hell: Hell, of course.
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== Ichigo will [[Eye Scream|pull a Shiryuu]] ==
I heard that Kubo mentioned [[Saint Seiya]] was an inspiration for him; and Unohana even said that he must not see Aizen's shikai, [https://web.archive.org/web/20100724144905/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/381/16/ no matter what].
 
== Aizen hypnotized himself with Kyoka Suigetsu. ==
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With all the super-careful planning he does, it seems pretty suspicious that he wouldn't clear his browser search for it and just leave it there for anyone to find. The whole thing about him wanting the King's Key is all a ruse, and the entire Soul Society is unwittingly helping him get what he really wants. The arc will probably wrap up with everyone thinking they're finally about to beat him, and then he says "Yeah, all this was part of my plan. Thanks for the help, losers!" and then puts on a pair of kickass sunglasses and flies off.
 
== [https://web.archive.org/web/20100725002844/http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/25/18/ When he was present when Grand Fisher became an Arrancar], D-Roy was in his released state. ==
Generally it's hard to tell just what we're looking at here, but what is apparent is that D-Roy is leaning on some snake-like thing that looks a bit like his Adjuchas form; likely his "tail" from the waist down. This would also explain the large difference in his appearance from then to the Arrancar Arc, besides Kubo changing his mind as usual.
* That's not D-Roy, it's Iceringer.
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== Ichigo, Uryu and Ginjo will break into the Soul Society to rescue Aizen ==
Ichigo and Ginjo are [[Only Sane Man|the only sane people]] left and Uryu is the only one to be cut by Book of The End and (seemingly) not affected by its powers and he realises that to even have a chance of saving their friends, they need to pull a Bigger [[Mind Rape]] on them than the one Tsukishima has pulled in order to not-quite break his curse but place their own curse in its place, and Ichigo knows just what they need, Kyoka Suigetsu. But problem #1 is that it disintergrated during the final battle and problem #2 is Aizen is in jail, but seeing as Ichigo is...well, [[The Determinator|Ichigo]] and he's [[Sanity Slippage|slowly losing his mind]], he's willing to give it a shot, break into the Soul Society (somehow) and Ichigo or Ginjo will use Fullbring to extract the Soul of Kyoka Suigetsu from Aizen, and while we're at it, we may find out if [[Epileptic Trees|Ginjo actually]] '''''[[Epileptic Trees|is]]''''' [[Epileptic Trees|Aizen's son]] (which, in turn, may lead to some [[You're Not My Father]], [[I Have No Son]] and [[I Hate You, Vampire Dad]] moments when they reunite). But Isshin and Urahara know what they're up too and that sword they have with them will permanentaly seal Ichigo's reiatsu away, why? Because Ichigo still has traces of the power the Hogyoku gave him and so much as coming into contact with Aizen will reawake all his [Aizen's] powers.
* Jossed. Ginjo was evil all along, Uryuu appears to be dead (again), and Ichigo has recovered his Shinigami powers.
== Tatsuki and Keigo plus maybe Chizuru will become Fullbringers ==
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Thus, the series will continue to get more ridiculous, but in a predictable way, because the absurdities will come from what annoys the fandom most.
 
== Tsukishima is going to get curbed stomped. ==
 
....... Because he deserves it; not only just inserting himself into the lives of Ichigo's friends as some [[Marty Stu]], {{spoiler|but replacing the most important people in Chad and Orihime's memories, Chad's grandfather and Orihime's brother. }}
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== The Villains of the "Final Holy War/Thousand-Year Blood War" are Quincy's ==
Four things pointing to this...
* #1; Look at the color page...no, look at '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120210225118/http://www.mangastream.com/read/bleach/36615093/6 THOSE FREAKING COLLARS]'''.
* #2; A shadowy figure [https://web.archive.org/web/20120210224834/http://www.mangastream.com/read/bleach/36615093/11 crushes something in his hand] and ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120210225003/http://www.mangastream.com/read/bleach/36615093/16 this]'' happens....crushing a small object that leads to a hollow infestation? [http://www.mangareader.net/94-490-18/bleach/chapter-36.html Sound familiar]?
* #3: The beginning of the arc notes that hollows are being ''destroyed'' instead of purified...[http://www.mangareader.net/94-500-4/bleach/chapter-46.html now who were notorious for doing just that]?
* And #4; according to [https://web.archive.org/web/20120210225113/http://www.mangastream.com/read/bleach/36615093/5 Mayuri] , only one party were capable of destroying hollows, meaning that it's the work of "'''''THEM''''' and them alone"
...So yeah, Quincy's
** So far, {{spoiler|atleast partially confirmed, Ivan is a Quincy}}.
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