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** The vast majority of any race will be subservient to some degree, we only saw the vehicles in a small section of the world. There could be truck CEOs for all we know.
*** There are. Well, small-business owners, anyway - Mater's salvage company is even named after him.
** They don't have to stay the same model (theoretically). One of the dropped ides was that a car's "brain" is its engine and could be transplanted into other vehicle-bodies (so the kid-car at the end could become a fighter jet one day). This would've been shown with Lightning having a nightmare where Mater (who was much more of a [[Jerkass]]) ''[[Nightmare Fuel|taking his body for a joyride]]'' while he was either trapped in Betsy's body, Mater's body, or [[BraininaBrain In A Jar|just hanging from an engine block]].
** Wait, did you just suggest that the family sedan could become a fighter jet just by putting the engine in an aircraft frame?
*** It's ''Cars''. They probably have laws to keep that under control. Oh...and different technology to get more generic engines.
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** The whole bit about the brain being in the engine was A) a nightmare and B) discarded so it doesn't matter.
* Just how exactly can they handle things like books and wrenches with those huge tires of theirs?
** [[Pimped -Out Car]], with cool arm-like things to manipulate everything? That, or human slaves.
** I believe they show Luigi using his windshield wipers like arms a few times. And others times they're shown lifting things with their tires, so they may be more adhesive than real world ones.
* So the [[Deadliest Catch|F/V Northwestern]] catches crabs. I'm wondering what vehicles would want with crabs, which are probably also vehicles (probably something like [http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/insectesque_machine_prototype_helps_logging.php this]). I can understand using plants as biofuel, but what would they use "animals" for? Do they suck out their "blood"? Grind them into abrasives? Are the "crabs" in fact sentient blobs of oil? If they were, wouldn't the crab pots look more like devices used to trap oil during the Gulf spill?
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== Cars 2 ==
* The first movie, while still good, is considered the worst of Pixar fare, and it's getting a sequel. The reason? Has anyone noticed that there are still Cars commercials on TV for the toys? Cars has the unfortunate reputation of being Pixar's [[Merchandise -Driven]] series. Don't blame Pixar though, blame [[Executive Meddling|Disney]]
** The first film was a pet project of John Lasseter, who is a car enthusiast in his own right. The second is most a case of [[Executive Meddling]], though.
** I'll disagree, simply because Pixar hasn't (to date) shown any signs of falling to [[Sequelitis]]. ''[[Toy Story 2]]'' was originally a direct-to-video cash-in, but got completely reworked after the Pixar leadership realized they didn't want to sully their reputation with bad movies. The only way ''Cars 2'' gets made is if they have a cool idea for it. And the toys continue to sell simply because toy cars are a long-time staple of the biz.
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* It appears that the weaponry that the vehicles use are hidden behind panels. So does that mean that {{spoiler|Mater}}, Shiftwell and McMissile have been surgically altered into fighting machines? Yeah, that brings up a bit of [[Fridge Horror]] for me.
** More like the spy genre and the cyberpunk genre are the same thing in their world.
* Spoilers for the sequel ahead. {{spoiler|1=First and foremost, what's up with the sudden outbreak of violence? In the very first scene, agent McMissile explodes several of the enemy Mooks and throws one of them into the night sea off the oil platform. For all we know, they likely were security guards (or, worst case scenario, [[Punch Clock Villain|Punch Clock Villains]]). Am I supposed to be emotionally attached to him now? That felt like a pure [[What Measure Is a Mook?]] moment. Mid-film, Mater, of all characters, fires two [[Gatling Good|miniguns]] at a crowd of cars (unintentionally, and they were [[Card -Carrying Villain|villains]] anyway, mind, but still.) We do not see their fate, but I personally find it a bit of a stretch to believe no one got hurt. Speaking of which, there's a scene where we see remains of a previously seen character crushed into a cube of scrap metal (which would be the car-world equivalent of a mangled corpse), and - probably the most egregiously - there's a lengthy and ''very'' graphic torture scene ending with the torture victim's ''death''. (There was a scene of [[Electric Torture]] in [[The Incredibles]], if memory serves, but come on. Bob was a super ''and'' a protagonist, he was obviously going to be okay.)}} No, I understand, kids kind of love guns and explosions, and there are genre conventions of a spy thriller, but... seriously? What happened to the Pixar that I knew?
** The Pixar you know decided to make a sequel that was nothing like the original (is there a trope for that?). I mean, death in a spy movie? Of course, it's to be expected, especially if they can do it with out anything gory so it can still be a children's film (cars are like the perfect thing for non-gory deaths). Death in a Cars film? No. Death in a spy movie with Cars characters? Ok ''now'' we've got a problem. Pixar just seems to have gone the wrong way in "fixing" that problem. Instead of just making them look a little mangled (we've seen it happen to racecars and Doc in the first one, so stuff like that wouldn't mean they die) we got outright crushing and shooting.
** Death in a ''Cars'' film shouldn't be a surprise, really -- the first movie certainly suggested that Doc Hudson's big crash was a near-death experience.
*** Key word, ''near.''
*** To explain my (OP's) point... both Doc's and King's crashes were appropriately dramatic. All the spectators watching the race gasped and held their collective breath when King went off-track and flipped over his roof several times, and so did I when I watched this film the first time. That was realistic, dang it, as in, that was like it happens in real life - in fact, that was how it DID actually happen in real life to Richard Petty, The King's voice actor. For me, that scene by itself (and how it causes Lightning to feel compassion, and selflessly sacrifice his victory in the end) would already be enough to love the first film with all my heart, even if there were no other Heartwarming moments (and there were). That's why I felt a change to the genre-usual (for spy movies) happy-go-lucky explode-o-rama was an eager step down. [[Sarcasm Mode|Not that the mooks deserved that kind of drama, of course]].
*** As for the torture scene... my 10-year old nephew said after we saw the film together that (in this kind of movies) "[[Cold -Blooded Torture|tortures shouldn't be for killing]], they are for the [[Big Damn Heroes|rescue to arrive at the last minute]]." Professor Zundapp mentions (and we see it later, when the emitter is used on other racers) that the gadget has a perfectly-working non-lethal setting. Fine, you have chosen the [[Sarcasm Mode|perfect]] moment to go realistic and become [[Darker and Edgier]] by showing how the villain wants to shut up a missing hero for real. Congratulations, you have brought {{spoiler|both of the masterminds}} to the [[Complete Monster]] status. Why on Earth after all this do we not even have a chance to see {{spoiler|either of them}} properly punished? I mean, I'm not cruel or sadistic to want to see anybody suffer, but, for comparison, the original film had the short but important scene with Chick Hicks where we get to know how his victory turned out to be hollow and bitter. Nothing of this kind here... the bad guys get (I suppose) arrested off-screen, that's all. For a [[Complete Monster]], that's not too satisfying of a grand finale.
* The main page says that Mater's aptitude for tall tales has key importance for the plot. Would anyone kindly point out where that skill was used? I didn't notice any case of it.
** I haven't seen the movie yet but I know Mater causes Lighting to lose a stage in Grand Prix so I figure Mater tries to explain all the weird [[Espionage Tropes]] that are occurring to Lightning. Lightning, who's been told all of [[Pixar Shorts|Mater's tall tales]] before, doesn't believe him.
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** I think what the OP was trying to say is that Sarge never had a reason to switch the fuel, because he had no idea that Allinol was dangerous. I don't think he ever knew about the danger per se; he just really likes organic fuel for some reason. So McQueen has been running on organic fuel this entire time; it was switched before the first race.
* After Mater enters the racing track and the whole mess with the bomb starts, the WGP storyline is completely dropped. Surely the characters have more important things to do, but it just feels like a huge loose end (considering the amount of screen time given to the race subplot). Looks like Lightning and all that racing business of his is not too significant at all. Wasn't Francesco Bernoulli supposed to be a prominent [[Worthy Opponent]] to McQueen? Nah, the creators seem to suddenly realize that no one cared about the outcome of Lightning's rivalry with a weaker version of Hicks anyway. Oh, the ending looks like it implicitly states that the next stage of the World Grand Prix takes place in Radiator Springs! ...Only, when Mater joins the race with those rocket boosters of his, all pretense of seriousness is completely lost. (Or, if the race 'was' for real, somebodies' sorry rear axles are gonna be sooo disqualified.)
** The race at the end wasn't part of the WGP. They state pretty early on that it only had three races, Towkyo, Italy, and London, which really makes no sense in itself (the ''World'' Grand Prix only has three races, all of them being on one side of the globe). So yeah, they just cut off the WGP to focus on [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad|Mater's]] story. But hey, Lightning getting dragged out of the race gave him some well deserved screen time, so you got your good and your bad. And yeah, there was really no point to Francesco.
*** Some racers we saw were the same, that's why it was logical to assume that after the London disaster the third stage had to take place somewhere else, so why not Radiator Springs?
*** Because he says we never figured out who won the WGP, which implies it was over. Also Mater was in it. Plus think about it: "A part of the racetrack just got wrecked. Let's pack up and build an entire new one in a town no one's heard about, instead of just rebuilding part of the track in a famous city with all the cars already here." Sounds a little stupid doesn't it?
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* Why are many people saying that Pixar is [[Jumping the Shark]] with Cars 2? It may be a [[Broken Streak]], but it came after some of the highest-rated Pixar films, and Brave seems reliable enough. Isn't Cars 2 nothing more than a fun little [[Breather Episode]]?
** Ditto
** Justifiably or not, this ''is'' the film that stopped Pixar's winning streak with critics, it has the stigma of not only being a sequel to Pixar's worst movie, but also a sequel made only made to sell toys, and the fact that after Brave is a [[Monsters Inc.]] prequel, and it was made right after a [[Toy Story]] sequel. In short: Chalk it up to [[Fan Dumb]] that thinks that one slightly sub par movie means Pixar will be [[Merchandise -Driven]] [[Sequelitis|sequels]] [[Ruined FOREVER|FOREVER!!!]] What I want to know: Why is it that Pixar makes one slightly sub par movie and that's all everyone wants to talk about, but you're an automatic hater if you mention any of the lesser [[Dreamworks Animation]] films?
** This is just me and my sources could be wrong, but I heard Pixar's being controlled by Disney now. Look at how many Disney movies got sequels. Now look at how many Disney movie sequels didn't suck. That's enough to kind of make me worry about what's coming next.
*** What's coming next is an original film, a prequel, and [http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/37907/pixar-announces-november-27-2013-as-release-date-for-next-movie another original film.] Also, if Disney just wanted to play it safe and only make Pixar make sequels, why would they let them do any of the mature stuff they did in Ratatouille, Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3?