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== [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Catherine]] is a game based off [[Mind Screw|abstract]] [[Literal Metaphor|metaphor]] for [[Relationship Values|relationships]] from the [[Always Male|Male's P.O.V.]]. ==
The [[Stock Video Game Puzzle|puzzles]] represent the [[Journey to
== ''Catherine'' takes place in the same Universe as ''[[
The "Ballerina" in Justin's backstory who committed suicide is Nina Sayers.
** Also, Catherine is Lily. Why not?
== This game is the result of [[Persona 3]] protagonist scoring with all of those women at the same time. ==
And then he turned into [[Crystal Dragon Jesus]] before they shared stories. All that usual [[Freud Was Right|Freudian]] [[Sex Is Evil|sexual]] [[Death
== This game is not being worked on, it is a pure [[Troll]] of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly. ==
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== Catherine is an artificial Persona. ==
Artificial Persona users have to take suppressants in order to keep their Persona from going rogue and potentially killing them or others. Given the link to the Persona 3 universe due to Vincent's appearance in
== It has sheep in it. ==
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* Alternatively, Catherine is Katherine's Shadow, and wants Vincent to choose her instead.
== Catherine is a [[Blank Slate]] whose exact nature [[
This... ''being'' responds to the desires of its victims by changing its appearance to whatever the victim ''wants'' to see -- at its core, it is neither male or female; both symbols appearing is a subtle hint at this. Upon finding and infecting a host, it puts them through a series of psychological tests via the nightmares in order to determine the victim's strengths, weaknesses and [[Fatal Flaw|Fatal Flaws]]. Failure means death, or [[Fate Worse Than Death|an even worse fate]]...
* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of [[Persona (
== The Sheep are dual symbolism. ==
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* This may be true, given how some of the sheep closely resemble some of the people you meet at the bar.
* It's also likely that they all see each other as sheep, and Vincent looks human because we're looking from his perspective.
* {{spoiler|Confirmed}}.
== Katherine has a [[Split Personality|Multiple Personality Disorder]]. ==
More specifically, there are three: her 'normal' persona, '[[Yandere]]' persona, and the 'Catherine' persona. Her 'normal' persona is the usual kind [[Meganekko]] Vincent is engaged with. Her 'Yandere' persona is that [[Nightmare Fuel|freaky screaming-head thingy]] we kept seeing in the Nightmare World in the trailer, born from the mind of insecure woman who desperately wants to marry Vincent as quickly as possible (with the thought that if she terrorizes Vincent enough, the Vincent in the real world will turn to her for a quick healing and ended up marrying her). 'Catherine' persona is, you guess it, the blonde, mysterious, mind-alluring, Catherine. Catherine is the persona born from Katherine with the thought that he'll like her more that way (it has been mentioned that they're some kind of childhood friends. Katherine must have known what type of girl Vincent like). Katherine herself may or may not realise that she has an MPD, so Catherine's existence is either just Katherine sporting a wig/dying her hair and curling it, or an [[Enemy Without]] because of whatever [[Applied Phlebotinum]] they're going to use in this game. And now, for the reason ''why'' Katherine has an MPD is probably because of trauma Vincent has induced to her in the past. And for the reason ''why'' the 'Yandere' persona can cause Nightmare and 'Catherine' keeps clinging to Vincent may be explained because of something akin/similar to Sera in [[Digital Devil Saga]] and {{spoiler|[[Spell My Name
== Vincent's sheep horns indicate that he starts [[Baleful Polymorph|transforming]] into a sheep man. ==
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== It has absolutely nothing to do with Persona ==
There is nothing about Catherine that has anything to do with any of Atlus' other games. It isn't in the same world as Persona 3, Philemon and Nyarlathotep aren't meddling in human affairs and God isn't trying to kill humanity for being defiant. When you look at the game you'll notice that it's far more personalized about a man's current life rather than going out and meeting people, plus the fact that coming to terms with Vincent's issues appears to be what's most important instead of reaching the truth or stopping Armageddon.
* [[Jossed]] as soon as we found out who the characters are, Vincent makes a cameo in
** Just making a cameo doesn't mean that it has a canon connection to the Persona franchise. If it did then [[Devil May Cry|Dante]] is part of [[
*** Does anyone actually have a problem with this idea? I think that'd be awesome, and c'mon, we're us. Enough meddling with canon facts in both series could make it make sense.
*** Well ''yes'' it would be awesome, but the point of the WMG was to guess that it had nothing to do with any Persona series. Make another WMG suggesting that it does have a connection to Persona if you want.
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== The worst ending involves [[Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds|Vincent somehow causing the destruction of the entire universe.]] ==
This is merely going by that one scene in the trailers where [[
* Jossed, there are 8 definite endings with a similar path to Chaos/Neutral/Order, with various degrees of good and bad.
** And that "Black Hole" is {{spoiler|Catherine's father appearing}}.
== Catherine is the offspring of Tammuz and Mother Harlot. ==
On the father's side, another name for {{spoiler|Dumuzid}} is Tammuz. As for the mother...well, [https://web.archive.org/web/20190713062151/http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080709020613/megamitensei/images/thumb/e/ee/TheHarlot2.jpg/300px-TheHarlot2.jpg Cathy's got her hair].
* Jossed: She's the daughter of... {{spoiler|A completely different demon lord, who has nothing to do with anything}}
* And according to Wikipedia, her mother would be Laz, so this is [[Jossed]].
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* Jossed. {{spoiler|Boss confirms the supernatural aspect, and a goddess (Ishtar) is involved, as can be seen after beating the Babel stages.}}
== ''[[Catherine]]'' takes place in the same universe as, or is a not-too-different retelling of, [[Haruki Murakami|Murakami's]] [[The Wind
[[Every Man]] protagonist? Check. Infidelity? Check. Strange cast of characters? Check. Weird dreams? Check. Sex? Check. Weird sense of [[Magical Realism]], or at least a lot of things unexplained and interconnected? Check. I haven't played the game yet, but just the demo playthrough and the opening remind me a lot of a Murakami book, especially ''[[The Wind
** And a couple of his earlier novels feature a sheepman. The only thing that's missing is cats.
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== On the third night, Vincent gave Catherine a rim job. ==
Catherine said it was the first time she's done "something like that" and calls Vincent "kinky", and the previous night, Vincent was chased by a monster that looked like a butt with a tongue coming out of it.
== The sequence "46, 37, 14, 31, 5, 53, 21, 59" is somehow significant . . . ==
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== Erica {{spoiler|was put inside the nightmares because she refused to date the Boss.}} ==
Erica makes it pretty clear during the game she had no intention of dating the Boss and {{spoiler|deities}} are known for not taking rejections very well. So {{spoiler|the Boss justified putting her into the nightmares using the valid reason that she was preventing Tobias from getting with women and having kids.}}
* Alternatively, she was punished for {{spoiler|being transsexual, and thus not being able to reproduce.}}
== If you see someone in a dream whom you've also seen in real life, they appear with their most memorable features as a sheep. ==
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== The first player to view the secret ending actually became a god ==
Rather than becoming a consort of Ishtar, the first player to get a gold prize on all the unbelievably [[Nintendo Hard]] Babel stages (which are already nearly impossible to unlock) immediately [[Unknown Armies
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