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== [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Catherine]] is a game based off [[Mind Screw|abstract]] [[Literal Metaphor|metaphor]] for [[Relationship Values|relationships]] from the [[Always Male|Male's P.O.V.]]. ==
 
The [[Stock Video Game Puzzle|puzzles]] represent the [[Journey to Thethe Center of Thethe Mind|state of mind]] Men would have in [[What Could Possibly Go Wrong?|these type of situations]].
 
== ''Catherine'' takes place in the same Universe as ''[[Black Swan (Film)|Black Swan]]'' ==
The "Ballerina" in Justin's backstory who committed suicide is Nina Sayers.
** Also, Catherine is Lily. Why not?
 
== This game is the result of [[Persona 3]] protagonist scoring with all of those women at the same time. ==
And then he turned into [[Crystal Dragon Jesus]] before they shared stories. All that usual [[Freud Was Right|Freudian]] [[Sex Is Evil|sexual]] [[Death Byby Sex|guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling back in time into the PSP [[Alternate Universe]] and hit Vincent in the form of [[Horny Devils]] and Sheep.
 
== This game is not being worked on, it is a pure [[Troll]] of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly. ==
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== Catherine is a [[Blank Slate]] whose exact nature [[Schrodinger's Gun|is determined by the decisions of those who interact with her]]. ==
This... ''being'' responds to the desires of its victims by changing its appearance to whatever the victim ''wants'' to see -- at its core, it is neither male or female; both symbols appearing is a subtle hint at this. Upon finding and infecting a host, it puts them through a series of psychological tests via the nightmares in order to determine the victim's strengths, weaknesses and [[Fatal Flaw|Fatal Flaws]]. Failure means death, or [[Fate Worse Than Death|an even worse fate]]...
* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of [[Persona (Videovideo Gamegame)|Persona]] 5 or yet ''another'' [[Spin-Off]].
 
== The Sheep are dual symbolism. ==
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== Katherine has a [[Split Personality|Multiple Personality Disorder]]. ==
More specifically, there are three: her 'normal' persona, '[[Yandere]]' persona, and the 'Catherine' persona. Her 'normal' persona is the usual kind [[Meganekko]] Vincent is engaged with. Her 'Yandere' persona is that [[Nightmare Fuel|freaky screaming-head thingy]] we kept seeing in the Nightmare World in the trailer, born from the mind of insecure woman who desperately wants to marry Vincent as quickly as possible (with the thought that if she terrorizes Vincent enough, the Vincent in the real world will turn to her for a quick healing and ended up marrying her). 'Catherine' persona is, you guess it, the blonde, mysterious, mind-alluring, Catherine. Catherine is the persona born from Katherine with the thought that he'll like her more that way (it has been mentioned that they're some kind of childhood friends. Katherine must have known what type of girl Vincent like). Katherine herself may or may not realise that she has an MPD, so Catherine's existence is either just Katherine sporting a wig/dying her hair and curling it, or an [[Enemy Without]] because of whatever [[Applied Phlebotinum]] they're going to use in this game. And now, for the reason ''why'' Katherine has an MPD is probably because of trauma Vincent has induced to her in the past. And for the reason ''why'' the 'Yandere' persona can cause Nightmare and 'Catherine' keeps clinging to Vincent may be explained because of something akin/similar to Sera in [[Digital Devil Saga]] and {{spoiler|[[Spell My Name Withwith an "S"|Maki/Mary]]}} in [[Persona (Videovideo Gamegame)|Persona]], respectively.
 
== Vincent's sheep horns indicate that he starts [[Baleful Polymorph|transforming]] into a sheep man. ==
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There is nothing about Catherine that has anything to do with any of Atlus' other games. It isn't in the same world as Persona 3, Philemon and Nyarlathotep aren't meddling in human affairs and God isn't trying to kill humanity for being defiant. When you look at the game you'll notice that it's far more personalized about a man's current life rather than going out and meeting people, plus the fact that coming to terms with Vincent's issues appears to be what's most important instead of reaching the truth or stopping Armageddon.
* [[Jossed]] as soon as we found out who the characters are, Vincent makes a cameo in [[P 3 P]].
** Just making a cameo doesn't mean that it has a canon connection to the Persona franchise. If it did then [[Devil May Cry|Dante]] is part of [[Shin Megami Tensei (Franchise)|Shin Megami Tensei]] canon.
*** Does anyone actually have a problem with this idea? I think that'd be awesome, and c'mon, we're us. Enough meddling with canon facts in both series could make it make sense.
*** Well ''yes'' it would be awesome, but the point of the WMG was to guess that it had nothing to do with any Persona series. Make another WMG suggesting that it does have a connection to Persona if you want.
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* Jossed. {{spoiler|Boss confirms the supernatural aspect, and a goddess (Ishtar) is involved, as can be seen after beating the Babel stages.}}
 
== ''[[Catherine]]'' takes place in the same universe as, or is a not-too-different retelling of, [[Haruki Murakami|Murakami's]] [[The Wind -Up Bird Chronicle]]. ==
[[Every Man]] protagonist? Check. Infidelity? Check. Strange cast of characters? Check. Weird dreams? Check. Sex? Check. Weird sense of [[Magical Realism]], or at least a lot of things unexplained and interconnected? Check. I haven't played the game yet, but just the demo playthrough and the opening remind me a lot of a Murakami book, especially ''[[The Wind -Up Bird Chronicle]]''.
** And a couple of his earlier novels feature a sheepman. The only thing that's missing is cats.
 
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== The first player to view the secret ending actually became a god ==
Rather than becoming a consort of Ishtar, the first player to get a gold prize on all the unbelievably [[Nintendo Hard]] Babel stages (which are already nearly impossible to unlock) immediately [[Unknown Armies (Tabletop Game)|ascended as the Virgin Casanova]], the archetype of the one who knows all about love and sexuality, but can never get any themselves. In so doing, he banished from the Statoshpere the last holder of the title, [[The World Only God Knows|Keima Katsuragi]], who himself took it from [[Cyrano De Bergerac]]... Okay, so this theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever, [[Rule of Cool|but it's cool, so who cares?]]
 
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