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*** We also don't know how long Quote was out for before regaining consciousness. It could be that when Curly drifted away, she reached the Plantations reservoir soon enough that her systems could be drained again by Cthulu.
* So, why does a mushroom that cures memory work on a robot?
** Well, Curly and Quote ''are'' [[Ridiculously -Human Robots]]. If you feel particularly dirty-minded, it's easy to infer that Quote sleeps with Chaco (the second time you rest in her bed). The real question is, why were two combat robots sent on a commando mission made to ''be'' so ridiculously human?
*** [http://fmsanctity.darkbb.com/t95-cave-story-hurts-so-good-18 I'll just leave] [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5880072/1/The_Purple_Mimigas_Love these right here] (both links are NSFW.)
*** Presumably in the hopes that maybe the mimigas wouldn't recognize them as robots, assume they were killer robots and try to defend themselves? Although clearly from the surface, the only two people in the entire game who recognizes Quote as a robot the first time they meet without being told about him in advance are Professor Booster and Professor Itoh (heck, even Misery takes a while to figure it out, and she'd presumably fought with him the last time).
*** Maybe whoever invented them went a little overboard, and non-[[Ridiculously -Human Robots]] that are capable of the same job haven't been invented yet.
*** Robots NOT this [[Ridiculously Human Robot|ridiculously human]] might not be able to see the link between stopping the crown bearer and saving a bunch of people that allows them to get around the Three Laws, provided they hold true.
*** Curly and Quote are part of a wave of experimental robots able to sexually reproduce. This is useful because it allows reinforcements to be created on the spot in extremely long campaigns. This would explain a whole lot of things, actually.
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*** Except that the way the game starts heavily implies it. And it is directly stated in at least the Wii version's manual.
* In most of the game, if Quote goes under water, his oxygen level counts down from 100 to 0 and if it goes to 0 he drowns. But if he's a robot, how come he needs to breathe?
** Since there is [[No Waterproofing in Thethe Future]], the water gets into his circuits and shorts him out. It's simply the time you have until your systems get too damaged and you shut down to protect yourself. It happens to Curly.
** Or just pretend Quote is air cooled or needs oxygen for some reason in his advance energy producing unit. Wait, didn't rescue Curly till after I wrote that. The above explains it correctly.
* Who designed robots with such vulnerable memory cicruits? Almost every time they get knocked out, they wake up not remembering who they are. We see it happen THREE times between TWO characters over the course of the story, for heaven's sake.
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*** Besides, they're well past their expiry dates.
** WMG: They're experimental prototypes/cutting edge technology, and their capacity for emotion is related to their memory storage. It's got a few kinks to be worked out/its mechanics are based on human neurology; they're capable of suffering physical-trauma-induced amnesia ... Or, being super-robots, the designers were running out of room/budget/resources, and deemed, since the two are capable of learning, memory safety relatively unimportant.
*** My fanfic-brewed WMG: [[Idiot Programming (Darth Wiki)|Their brains were originally based on standard computing technology, but halfway through the production process, they switched to the human-neurology model.]]
*** [[Ridiculously -Human Robots]].
* As a robot, why does Curly even ''have'' panties? Wait, [[Squick|don't answer that]].
** [http://fmsanctity.darkbb.com/t95-cave-story-hurts-so-good-18 *cough* (NSFW)]
** If you're dressing up [[Ridiculously -Human Robots]], you might as well get a full outfit.
** It actually serves as ''amazing'' personal armor. Her creator stored all of her vital circuits down south, figuring no one would look there. (Insert obligatory ''[[Chobits (Manga)|Chobits]]'' joke here.)
*** And if you've seen it, Starchaser: The Legend of Orin goes about the same route...
** Why do ''humans'' wear panties?
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*** Igor had enough brains left to talk, it could be that he was a helper that came with the doctor, Sue and the rest in the helicopter, and was transformed first by Misery and then used as experiment by the doctor with the red flowers, check that he has a tie and we don't know the effects of the red flowers on Mimiga transformed humans, just watch Sue later on the undead core battle.
*** Given the presence of red flower petals in the Egg Corridor's watch room, it's likely that Igor was tasked with overseeing the Corridor, and The Doctor attacked and converted him to gain control of the area.
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20090808175942/http://taleotc.com/90 These] few Tale of the Cave strips fix this bit.
**** It's simple, really. Igor was tasked to protect the dragon eggs no matter what. As a mere normal Mimiga, he couldn't stand a chance against all the monsters in the area nor the Doctor and his gang. Out of desperation to fulfill his task, Igor willingly consumed Red Flowers to become powerful enough to guard the dragon eggs, unfortunately losing his mind in the process. He still seemed to have retained enough intelligence to keep fulfilling his task, as he fought against Sue and Quote to keep them away from the eggs. The Doctor wasn't involved at all with Igor's transformation, at least not directly.
* And yet another thing, why are there red flowers in the basement of Arthur's House?
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*** Actually, she outright states that even a witch like her can grow old and frail and all she can do is rely on you.
** Another (personal) theory is that she's using all of her power to keep the Island afloat, as a counterbalance to her brother's power, in tandem with the Core. This would leave her physically vulnerable so even a creature like Balrog could smack her around.
** My own theory is that their magic works like [[The Lord of the Rings]] magic; that is, whenever you use magic to create or enchant something, the power spent is lost for good. I imagine placing the seal on the Seal Chamber, building the Labyrinth, and creating the Core would leave her rather weak, possibly using up her powers entirely. She probably has enough magic left to keep herself from dying of old age, but not much more than that.
** Either this is a world where everyone's magic has a definite limit (so every time you use some, you tap into your finite lifetime supply of magic) and she stretched her powers so much when sealing Ballos that they never recovered (kind of like using a muscle to the breaking point), or she has just grown too old to do any of that fancy magic anymore.
** If any of this applies to Jenka, what about Ballos? He's only slightly younger than her, and that doesn't say much when you're hundreds to thousands of years old. In all that time, he seems to be as powerful as ever despite having created countless demons and using all of his might 24/7 to make the island crash. Maybe his haywire power has granted him an infinite supply of magic? Ballos also seems very inhuman, almost demon-like, unlike the more natural looking Jenka and Misery. It could be that his power mutated him so far that he doesn't age at all anymore.
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** Wasn't she only able to teleport him to the Labyrinth because he was knocked out by Balrog? I haven't played the game in a while, but I think that's how it went... of course, that just raises the question of why she didn't just kill him when she had the chance in the first place.
** That is true; the only time Misery teleported Quote is the one time Balrog incapacitated him, so the theory that she can't 'port him when he's running around is pretty reasonable. My personal theory about why she never just killed him is that Misery didn't like the Doctor and didn't want to serve him anymore. Upon meeting a robot who wanted to kill the Doctor and seemed capable of actually pulling it off, Misery helped the robot in the only way she could: by deliberately half-assing all her attempts to kill Quote.
*** Misery comes to the realization (back in the Sand Zone perhaps? I forget where) that trying to keep Quote away just doesn't work, and the Balcony is when she decides to stop trying and just fight. Also yeah, mini-rebellion against the Doctor in the only way she can. As for the bit about Sue (and that whole scene in general), [http://cavestory.org/forums/showpost.php?p=98496&postcount=5 look here]{{Dead link}}.
 
 
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** Perhaps a combination of Artificial sources and bioluminescent fungi. The artificial lights could also simulate sunlight, explaining the proper plants.
* What's the big deal about this game anyway? I mean, I played it, and I thought it was a good game, and it's impressive that one guy did everything and all, but I don't see why everyone acts like it's literally the best thing since sliced bread. [[Hypocrisy Nod|That's what I think about Iji.]]
** It's a commercial-quality game that was made by one guy, has great game play and replay value, very decent plot and dialogue (unusual for games of this genre), a good musical score, is computationally and graphically un-demanding, and was given away for free(!) for the entire internet to play. Seriously, what's not to like? [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_Story:Cave Story#Reception |Professional reviewers concur]].
** Also, read [http://www.barbelith.com/topic/28650 this] forum post.
** I think Iji is the best freeware game of all time, but Cave Story is ridiculously close behind it (Iji's brilliant writing gives it a slight edge in my eyes).