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* Played with in the Marvel ''[[Transformers]]'' comic. Shockwave retains leadership of the Decepticons by kicking Megatron's ass; however, Shockwave clearly didn't want to fight, because he's all about logic (which to him is "whatever will achieve the best outcome") and the Decepticons were at the time under danger from the outnumbered and wounded Autobots.
* In ''[[Fables (Comic Book)|Fables]]'', [[The Jungle Book (novel)|Mowgli]] finds a wolf pack who might know where to find the missing [[Big Badass Wolf|Bigby]]. The wolves won't talk, so he challenges the alpha male for leadership. It works.
* The Wolfriders in ''[[Elf Quest]]'' are another example. Though their leadership is usually inherited, tribe members can also challenge the chief and take over. The Go-Backs, at least later on in the series, appear to have the same thing.
** Still, the trope is used ''very'' sparingly, because (1) elves do not kill elves and all life is sacred, and (2) the chief is always respected and loved, and the challenge happens only when there is enough evidence that the chief is unable to do their job properly. A good example is Scouter's challenge of Ember's position very late on in the series: Scouter won, and Ember was left behind to do a [[Vision Quest]] until she was fit to catch up with the tribe again and reclaim her role as chief.