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** Deathmatch
*** To be precise, Thunderdome.
**** [[MST3KMystery Science Theater 3000|Come on, can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?]]
*** What, not a Gumballdome or somesuch confection?
** I'm pretty sure the whole thing was rigged from the start so that only Charlie could win. He only let the other kids in to teach them lessons.
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** Maybe R. Dahl thought this was different because Wonka himself was very much nonconventional--you know, in the way some nonconformists feel they can look exactly like ''each other'' and still not conform. And ''Charlie and the Chocolate Factory'' was one of R. Dahl's early children's books; ''Matilda'' was the last one he completed, about twenty-five years later. Much room for authorial change in that time.
** Might not so much be an Aesop as that Wonka saw himself as identifying more with children than with adults, and a child would be more likely to continue doing things the way he did.
** Personally, this troper believes that Wonka meant a child wouldn't change the "atmosphere" of the factory. Think about it: Wonka is mainly [[Doing It for Thethe Art]], something that no sane adult businessman would do. Considering how Dahl normally portrays adults in his stories, an adult would probably have turned the factory into a soulless corporation that makes sweets in the cheapest, most generic way possible.
** If things were changed, the candy would be different, and probably not as high in quality, which would presumably affect sales, so the heir would owe it to their own success to do things Wonka's way. After all, mixing chocolocate by waterfall is the only way to get it just right.
* In the sequel- which is set in the 1970s, as the characters mention- they're building a space hotel, and ordinary people are going to stay there. Um, how are they going to get there? Send the guests up three at a time in Apollo capsules?
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** The older film also is vague in this regard, which is addressed by [[Neil Patrick Harris]] in the Rifftrax. "Maybe this takes place before the American Revolution."
*** Maybe it makes sense in context, but it's about a chocolate factory and features television news prominently. Did pre-revolutionary Britain, or America use...? no. I'm completely stumped.
**** That's the point. It's [[RifftraxRiff Trax]]. ''Neil was making a joke.''
***** This troper always saw the characters (all of them) as being intentionally vague as to where they came from, to let the reader feel like they could possibly be one of the characters.
*** Perhaps Charlie grew up in a community of recent American immigrants to Great Britain, or vice versa. Ethnic neighborhoods are common on both sides of the Pond.
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** Except that he has several lines and exchanges copied wholesale from the book (admittedly Wilder may have had as well, but I haven't seen his film for a long time). While I'd probably agree that neither are exact to the book, I think ''Depp'' is the more faithful.
*** Except Depp's version adds the excessive [[Man Child]] aspects to the character, plus the unnecessary boatload of [[Daddy Issues]]. I think the Nostalgia Critic said it best when he suggested that the 1971 movie is closer to Wonka's characterisation in the book (but the film becomes more about Charlie), whilst the 2005 film had a closer characterisation for Charlie (and yet became more about Willy Wonka as part of the standard Tim Burton/Johnny Depp thing).
* What was Mike playing in the 2005 film? Or at least what was it based on? It looked similar to an ''Atari 7200'' however the graphics was more [[PSPlay Station 2]] or Xbox like.
** The [[Schizo-Tech|SchiZtation]] [[Over Nine Thousand|9100]], which was made by an obscure Ameritish company back in 19exty2. I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it.
*** That company was [[Batman|Nygmatech]].