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* Of all the national stereotypes the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' series mocks, this is one that they surprisingly [[Averted Trope|don't]]. There are two French characters throughout the series -- Remy, a nihilistic [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], and Abel, an MMA-style fighter who specializes in judo.
** Though, a common [[Mondegreen]] of Abel's [[Unnecessary Combat Roll|Marseilles Roll]] has him saying "I surrender!"
* There's a downloadable [[
* Inverted in ''[[Europa Universalis]]'', where France is the subject of much [[Memetic Mutation]] regarding the killer blue blob. Contrary to popular belief, it can in fact be defeated but it's not easy.
* Thiery Trantigne in ''[[Odium]]'' is a coward, to the point where he screams in panic how they're all going to die even when facing the most pathetic of monsters. He also once expresses disgust at the thought of risking his life for a teammate.
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*** Of course, this neglects that France didn't lose either war for ''military'' reasons. Both conflicts were lost due to political issues at home.
**** Though this is very true of Algeria, Indochina was lost by a military slow to adapt and (again) fighting a war against new tactics with the ones of the last and with terribly little support from its own population and politicians. The Paras and Legion learned, the leaders did not. Navarre and Cogny basically FAILED miserably and [[War Is Hell|sacrificed the elite of the French army]] (fighting with extreme valour, endurance and elan) in a faraway and insignificant valley against a VASTLY superior Viet Minh force. The Paras and Legion officers then, determined to never loose a colonial war to insurgents again, took subversive warfare to a new level in [[It Got Worse|Algeria]].
** Also, popular belief about how France lost [[World War II]] is terribly inaccurate. The popular version is that the French sat behind the [[
** There's also the belief that the Germans plowed through France because their tanks were awesome while the French tanks were outdated crap. While the French tanks were based on more [[World War I]] lines, they were still rather solid and capable. The Char B1-bis was feared by the Germans, and one Char called ''Eure'' took out a whopping 13 German Panzer IIIs and IVs by itself--and in an ambush set up by the ''Germans'' no less. The reason French armor ultimately lost was that their best tanks were fuel hogs, there were no where near enough, and French tank tactics didn't use their strengths effectively <ref>which multiple armies had difficulty with at the time since the tank combat paradigm had shifted rather drastically since World War I and most people were still experimenting with newer, untested tank tactics</ref>.
** Both the Maginot Line issue and the tank issue were due to the fact that France was completely unprepared for war due to financial problems and the fact that it was still suffering from the consequences of the first World War where France was one of the countries to suffer the most losses. (Also the reason why France was so reluctant to agree to Chamberlain's appeasement policies.) This is illustrated by the story of Churchill asking General Gamelin where the French reserves were, to which Gamelin replied: "There are none." And the material and human losses of World War I meant that the majority of the population did not want another war (just like English politicians prior to Churchill had yield to Hitler's demands in Austria and Sudetenland to avoid a conflict). That'S why in May 1940, Petain was seen as a hero and the reasonable man, while De Gaulle was the hot-headed extremist.
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