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*** The same kind of rules apply to Japan, which is really very strictly organized. It indeed doesn't make a sense that someone without any formal training may fiddle with public electricity services.
*** Well, that's why he needed to pull a favour from Yoshino - who admittedly owes him a big one.
*** Still, the manager's blitheness kind of [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief|strains credibility]]. "Hey boss, this kid here has previously shown zero interest or aptitude in public electricity services and has absolutely no experience in the field, but he helped me and my wife get married so could you maybe give him a job or something?" "[[Sure, Whywhy Not]]!not?"
*** I'm suggesting that Yoshino lied to cover for Tomoya, just like he covered up his injury. I'm sure that in any sequel, Tomoya will end up losing his job as the truth comes out, shortly followed by losing their home, and then the entire family dies of hypothermia in the snow. Happy ending theme tune plays. [[Why Did You Make Me Hit You?]]?
*** Glad to be of service! And yeah, Yoshino probably did lie his head off, but I'd like to think that the manager at least asked to see Tomoya's certificates or something. I don't think either of the two possessed the know-how or the gall to fabricate qualification documents. But depending on just how dumb the manager / silvery Yoshino's tongue is, I suppose it ''could'' happen.
**** Yoshino is a loyal employee and probably was able to strike a deal with his boss that Tomoya follows him (as an apprentice) and learns what he needs to learn. Alternatively, they might have a program for that company to both teach electricians the basics of what they need to know and provide apprenticeships. And if those don't make sense, [[MST3K Mantra]] solves it.
** Just read this part in the VN, and Yoshino specifically says that his job doesn't even check for a high school education. I'm guessing the writers simply [[Did Not Do the Research]].
* Episode 15 of After Story: So Nagisa is pregnant, and we all know giving birth isn't easy for the mother, specially if they're an [[Ill Girl]] with a frail body, which can lead to [[Death Byby Childbirth|bad things]]. We all got this? Good. Then just WHY did Nagisa decide to give birth in her house (Itself fairly strange, but whatever), and what is worse, [[Idiot Plot|why didn't Tomoya, her parents, or ANYONE realize how bad an idea this was]]? Did they forget how (for example) half the previous episode was about how hard it was for Nagisa to find a job due to her illness? I mean, this isn't a petty little detail, she's been ill since she was born. Did [[Idiot Ball|IdiotBalls]] rain the night before or what? And when she finally changes her mind, they just mention it by passing (So they could set the [[Deus Angst Machina]] I guess), as if it was a minor thing. Great.
** I don't quite remember how it ran in the anime, but in the game, Tomoya and Nagisa's parents do realize instantly that this is an extremely bad idea, and much of the plot for a while is focused on getting Nagisa to change her mind. However, she's really adamant about it, and thus there's really nothing they can do about it.
*** That makes A LOT more sense, thank you! And yeah, on the anime, they all go "That's a great idea!" instantly, so boo to [[Kyo Ani]].
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** The first ''season'' was split between the Theater club and Fuko's sister's wedding. The main point of both was to get the people closer and essentially establish Tomoya's and Nagisa's [[Nakama|closest friends]], and Nagisa always knew it would be temporary. Also, this is Clannad, which prides itself on being a [[Shaggy Dog Story]] [[Crapsack World|in its]] [[Tear Jerker|happiest endings]].
** Tomoyo and Yukine are fairly busy doing other things, and Nagisa did try to restore it by herself, but her weak personality caused her to fail at that goal. Not much a graduated Tomoya could do about that.
*** That covers the "Why didn't they help" part fine. Thank you. The other one is just [[Kyo Ani]] focusing too much on Nagisa [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad|as usual]], I figure.
*** Again, this is just more stuff directly lifted from the games, so it's not entirely [[Kyo Ani]]'s fault.
**** No, I meant having mostly Nagisa-focused scenes, don't misunderstand me... Sorry if I made it sound like they were making up stuff. And just to make myself clear, I don't dislike [[Kyo Ani]] (Hey, my favorite anime is ''[[Kanon]] 2006'') nor Clannad, case I was misunderstood. Just that, from my PoV, they went kind of overboard on how much Nagisa appeared, even taking into account she's the main heroine with a longer plot and all that. It's not the plot's fault, is they way they played it out.
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* The way Kyou and Fuuko's names are written on the OP. The former uses a romanization style, the latter uses an older one, causing her to get referred as "Fuko" by subs, fans, and just about everyone else. Which [[Berserk Button|makes me angry]]. [[The Hulk|You don't want to see me angry]]. Er, seriously anyway, can't they be consistent? I wouldn't mind it TOO much if it was "Kyo" and "Fuko", even though I'd prefer "Kyou" and "Fuuko", but man... mixing two styles just doesn't looks right.
** A few people do refer to them as "Kyou" and "Fuuko"; it's written that way in the translated visual novel as well.
* And back to Sunohara getting unfairly treated: Episode 16 of After Story. Sunohara and the others ([[Brother Chuck|except Tomoyo]]) go visit Tomoya and Nagisa to celebrate New Year. Sunohara calls Tomoya "Okazaki", as he's ''always'' done. Both Tomoya and Nagisa reply, even though he always calls Nagisa for her ''first'' name (And with honorific, something Tomoya doesn't gets). Thusly Kyou chastises... Sunohara, since both are "Okazaki" now. Even though he did his normal thing and Nagisa was the dumb one for replying when he's never called her for her last name. It's even worse when you consider Tomoya calls Kyou for her first name and Ryou for her last name, yet Kyou ''never'' gets confused, even though it's the same thing. So, basically, Kyou is a hypocrite, Sunohara [[Cosmic Plaything|gets punished for doing things right]] and Nagisa ''never'' makes mistakes, even when she does (Then again, two episodes before she couldn't see through her dad's [[Paper -Thin Disguise]]... And in the previous one she couldn't think of names based on hers except "Nagisako" and "Nagisami"... The brightest crayon in the box she ain't.). And yes, I [[MST3K Mantra|shouldn't think this THAT much]], but still...
** This bit about calling them both Okazaki came from the [[Visual Novel]] (Yes [[Mapi-chan|I'm]] that far into the story, yay)
*** That doesn't makes it any less silly, though.
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** See below.
** It has been a while, but I believe that episode 16 probably had not a literal shift, but a mental reflection. He then snaps back to reality and that is where episode 17 picks up. In fact Chapter 22 is really the only literal "shift" I remember, and he decides to stay with her. Additionally, the only scene I can recall of him regretting his life with Nagisa and being silent on the hill was the end of Chapter 21, which picks right up with Episode 22.
* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[Bleached Underpants|but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both [[AIR (Visual Novel)|AIR]] and [[Kanon (Visual Novel)|Kanon]]. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[Getting Crap Past the Radar|They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[Rule 34|Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.
** Since we're talking about the games, it did lightly mention the deed. The anime adaptation simply cut it out.
** The anime adaptation mentions it too (in After Story). But in response to the original question, the lack of H-scenes is actually something quite a few people ''like'' about Clannad. It's a refreshing change for a romance VN to not have such things. In other words: it's sort of a stylistic choice.
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