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== The reality where Nagisa died really happened, despite Tomoya getting a [[Reset Button]] opportunity. ==
Think about it. In ''[[Clannad (visual novel)|Clannad]] ~[[After Story~]]'' 24, the recap episode, Tomoya tells Ushio about the events that led up to her birth. When Ushio falls asleep however, Tomoya muses about ''another memory/reality'' where the Nagisa in that reality died in childbirth. He recounts that after seeing Ushio die in his arms, he also collapses onto the snow, and the next thing he knew was that he was right beside Nagisa again, giving birth to Ushio. This time, Nagisa survives, and the Light Orbs are subtly hinted at by Nagisa when she comments about the beautiful sky.
 
* Does this mean Ushio dying happened as well? So somewhere out there is an universe where Tomoya's entire family died, and Sanae and Akio live tragically alone in their failure to protect their daughter, their son-in-law, and their granddaughter? [[Big No|Uuagh....]]
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It's interesting to note that, when Tomoya (with Ushio) met Fuko ''after'' she had woken up, Fuko did not recognize him at all, despite him and Nagisa being her closest companions in the events leading up to Kouko's wedding. Tomoya himself did not recognize Fuko as the girl he helped seven years ago to invite people to Kouko's wedding. Given the emotional attachment between Tomoya and Fuko at the time, it's safe to assume that if they knew each other, there was no way one wouldn't recognize the other.
 
Even when Fuko finally wakes up in the second reality (where Nagisa lives), there is no indication of her knowing who Tomoya and Nagisa were beforehand, and vice versa, as indicated by ''~[[After Story~]]'' 22 and 24.
 
Thus, it is safe to say that Fuko's [[Story Arc]] has been effectively erased from everyone's memory, with no chance of them truly remembering what happened.
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Fuko basically owed Nagisa and Tomoya the key to her sister's happiness: Nagisa and Tomoya both went out of their way to help Fuko invite people to Kouko's wedding with Yusuke. As a result, Fuko became eternally grateful to both of them.
 
We see the scene in ''~[[After Story~]]'' 22 where the camera pans on the Girl in the Illusionary World, then when it pans out and back in again, when Fuko asks what the girl's name was, Ushio is seen instead. This means that Fuko knows that the Illusionary World exists. Since she is able to project herself into the school even when she was in a coma, it's safe to say that she can effectively travel between the real world and the Illusionary World. Using the [[Suzumiya Haruhi|Haruhi]] definition, Fuko is a Dimensional Slider.
 
According to the linked article above, '''Fuko is the sheep we saw in ''~[[After Story~]]'' episode 2''', the one that helped the Garbage Doll find its way back to Illusionary World Ushio. She slid into the Illusionary World, knowing both Illusionary World Ushio and Garbage Doll/Tomoya's true identities. In ''~[[After Story~]]'' 20, Fuko explains to Tomoya that she has memorized Ushio's scent; two episodes later, when the True End has taken place, Fuko is able to find Ushio because of her scent.
 
When exactly did Fuko inform Ushio of her true identity? This cannot be pinpointed, but as we all know, '''time does not exist in the Illusionary World'''. So, it is safe to say that when Nagisa, then Ushio and Tomoya die, Fuko becomes aware of this, slides over to the Illusionary World, informs Ushio of her true identity, thus enabling her to send the Garbage Doll/Tomoya back in time to the bottom of the hill, where Tomoya first meets Nagisa. The blurred scenes in the middle of the final episode indicate both Tomoya and Nagisa reliving their senior year, this time, however, they know that they were destined to be lovers, and they were aware of Ushio's powers (Light Orbs), therefore, Tomoya is able to prevent Nagisa from dying in childbirth by invoking the power of the Light Orbs. This is subtly [[Lampshade Hanging|referenced]] in the second scene that Nagisa gives birth.
 
{{quote| '''Nagisa''': "Tomoya-kun, take a look outside the window. It's beautiful."}}
 
Tomoya draws the curtains back and sees light orbs rising into the night sky.
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== Akio Furukawa is [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Keiichi Maebara]] as an adult. ==
Well, look at them. [http://minikoalas.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/cas-14.jpg Akio]{{Dead link}} looks exactly like [https://web.archive.org/web/20100620081214/http://animedesho.animeblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/higurashiprevie.jpg Keiichi].
 
== Nagisa is [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Rena Ryuuguu]] whose parents never split up and never moved to Hinamizawa ==.
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** FUCK YES. Look, Akio even has a huge friggin' bat just like Keiichi!
 
== Yukine Miyazawa is actually her brother Kazuto [[TranssexualTranssexualism|after a sex change]]. ==
Point the one: no-one has ''ever'' seen them together. Point the two: they look so much alike that Yukine can dress as a man and deceive everyone present, at least until someone gets close enough (a few meters, that's not much). Therefore (bear with me, this will be quite lengthy):
 
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== Kyo and Ryo are [[Doppelganger|Doppelgangers]] of [[Lucky Star|Kagami and Tsukasa Hiiragi]]. ==
 
== Misae Sagara is the daughter of [[Full Metal Panic!|Kaname Chidori and Sousuke Sagara.]] ==
It makes sense!
 
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== Koumura Toshio (the old teacher) is the [[Author Avatar]] ==
He doesn't appear much, but is the one who made Tomoya and Youhei meet, and seems to be the one who knows what happens, and the only one who remembers Kouko's weeding.
 
== Ushio Okazaki is [[Suzumiya Haruhi|Mikuru]]. ==
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== The ''city'' is the sadist. ==
If we are to personify the city and make it seem like a character, then we might as well consider this [[Complete Monster|option as well]].
* Time for an elaboration. The city gets it's satisfaction when people cross the [[Despair Event Horizon]]. When Nagisa was nearly dying, the city knew that her death will only affect her parents and thus will not satisfy it. Around this time, they also noticed Tomoya's depressing relation with his father. It decided to have Tomoya follow in his father's foot steps. So what do they do? Time for a [[Xanatos Roulette]]! First, the city gives Nagisa some of it's life force to keep her going until she meets and eventually falls in love with Tomoya. Soon during After Story, when Nagisa is preggers, the city decides it's time to kill her off. Bonus points if you can consider the city may have the power to control the "[[Kamen Rider Double|WEATHER!]]" (sorry, couldn't resist.) After being satisfied with the death and grieving, they decide to bother Tomoya's life when he reunites with his daughter by ''taking her life force away''. This winds up killing Tomoya too. So that reset button ending? It was Fuuko behind it all, and how does Tomoya clearly recall the downer ending? Because it's like being traumatized, you can never block it out of your mind.
** Now that this troper's explained it, the city is probably more of a [[Troll]].
** Alternately, an [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica|Incubator]] is behind it all, trying to harvest despair without turning people into Magical Girls.
 
== Fuuko is a [[Karas]] ==
Both Fuuko and Otoha {{spoiler|are in a coma yet can project their bodies to certain places}}. It makes more sense with the other WMGs suggesting Fuuko is a [[Chekhov's Gunman]].
 
== The high school's basketball team are NBA players. ==
Think about it. Tomoyo can get easy hits off of a Nationals level pitcher in the first episode of After Story. She gets a home run in her first at bat, doesn't try in the second, and hits an extremely hard line drive out in her third. Tomoyo also beats all the other school teams' challenges easily. When she plays against the school's basketball team in the VN, she struggles. Yes, she's playing with Sunohara and Tomoya, but Tomoya is a former basketball player who's just a bit out of practice and can't shoot. Sunohara is also an athelete so he's certainly not terrible. They're not even playing a full game so fatigue can't be a problem. Yet, they get completely destroyed.
** I wouldn't caall three years equal to "just a bit" out of practice.
 
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== Time is meaningless in the Illusionary World/it has its own dimension of time ==
It's not that far fetched to imagine that a world existing in another dimension would run on it's own time. This means that puzzling out the order of things is not so important, because we time travel is irrelevant to inter-world events.
 
Effectively, since the Illusionary World doesn't share time with the real world, it theoretically connects to all times and places (but apparently only within the town).
 
Thus there is no real time travel when people move between the worlds, and Ushio has always will be watching over the town.
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== The revist of Tomoya and Nagisa's first meeting didn't technically happen ==
In this meeting Tomoya is presented with a choice: Choose the same actions that ended in Nagisa's death, or avoid all that pain by not calling out to her.
Strangely in this situation, Nagisa is fully aware, at the very least of the future time when she and Tomoya are a couple.
 
This doesn't make sense if you consider it a true reset. Either way it may be one of the following:
* An illusion, or some sort of alternate world designed purely to get Tomoya to realize that it isn't truly the choice either he or Nagisa wants.
* A transitory world, that Tomoya or his other self stopped at before returning to the point where Ushio was born
 
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