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** At first, the idea of having Pizza Hut in the series seemed like stupid [[Product Placement]], but it now hits me that unless some really bad [[In Spite of a Nail]] is going on, this is yet another sign that the "official history" in the series in complete b.s. --- [[User:Jordan]]
*** I'm not sure if this was deliberate, but I've noticed something interesting about the episode references to Lelouch as a demon as well as his tendency to speak of himself this way. Lelouch has a much remarked similarity to Light in Death Note, but of course, Light always refers to himself as ''[[A God Am I|God]]''. This really underscores how different the two characters actually are.-- [[User:Jordan]].
**** For all that I love ''[[Code Geass]]'', I used to feel like Lelouch was (or at least started out as) something of a Light Yagami rip-off. They're both teenage geniuses who suddenly gain great power and try to use it to change the world. But, on further thought, Light and Lelouch have some crucial differences. Lelouch, even from when he's a little kid, vows that he will one day destroy Britannia, and in fact gaining Geass only ''speeds up'' his plans to topple the Empire. Light never seriously thought he would be able to do anything to change the "rotten" world he lives in until he discovers the Death Note. But there's one thing that completely sets Lelouch vi Britannia and Light Yagami apart: their pasts. Lelouch is a prince, not an [[Ordinary High School Student]] like Light, and his motives (at least initially) are revenge (for his mother's murder) and to create a better world for his sister. His motivation is very much rooted in his family and his past. Light, however, is utterly normal. He has a normal family, with two parents and a younger sister (he may get his "justice" thing from his police chief dad, but it's not an uncommon thing to believe in) - in fact, he basically has the ideal "Nuclear Family". He never had any involvement in the evil he sought to purge from the world, other than seeing it in the news. Besides his abnormally large brain, Light is the Everyman up until he finds the Death Note - which raises the question in the ordinary people who watch ''[[
***** Don't forget the fact that Light is also super athletic while Lelouch is outrun by Milly in a dress. -[[User:neobowman]]
*** Let's examine ''[[
**** Due to [[Disappointing Last Level]] and poor planning and explanations, ''[[Code Geass]]'' seemed more like a [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog]]-style [[Esoteric Happy Ending]] itself. Lelouch goes with a plan with no guaranteed chance of success, and without himself to keep things from falling apart, and the road there involves doing things below even the lowest of his baseline standards during the bulk of the series. And he went with this plan because he had no one to turn to who really valued life to help him out, especially with Nunnally apparently dead. And guess who turned up an episode after he started the plan? --[[User:azul 120]]
** Most of what I'd heard about the show focused on the Geass and Lelouch being a chessmaster; it wasn't until later that I heard about the [[Humongous Mecha]], and I was expecting that to ruin it for me. While watching the show, it didn't jar as much as I expected it to, but it was only when reading the manga version without the robots that I realized that the giant robots make a surprisingly natural complement to Lelouch's giant hamminess. It meant that all the action in the series was scaled up, and without that aspect, Zero seemed rather underwhelming. -- [[User:Haven]]
*** I've been enjoying the show since day one for its epic giant robot action and amazing main character, but it wasn't until recently that I realized the whole thing isn't just a reversal of the classic hero and villain archtypes, but also of the classic [[Saturday Morning Cartoon]] tropes. The Black Knights are like [[Pokémon (
**** Don't forget the Gundam reversal, specifically. -- [[User:Shay Guy]]
**** Ooh! There's also the fact that Suzaku is the [[Invincible Hero]] piloting a mech named after ''Lancelot''. -- [[User:Haven]]
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* Clovis. Am I the only one who thinks he's one of the most brilliantly handled characters in this show? For all the time he's alive, he's basically your typical [[Smug Snake]], [[Aristocrats Are Evil|incompetent but callous ruler]], who perhaps [[Alas, Poor Villain|earns a bit of sympathy for his death]] but is otherwise just someone to showcase the evils of the Britannian Empire and let Lelouch have his [[Curb Stomp Battle]]. Then the rest of his appearance (or rather, when he's referred to) spend their time deconstructing this notion: he clearly loved his family, he was a fairly talented artist, he even treasured all of his visits with Lelouch when they were younger, despite the fact that he always lost their games of chess - not the reaction you'd expect he of the hopeless ego to have. Even his most horrendous action, the demolition of the Shinjuku ghetto, is, if not justified, certainly given an excuse - it becomes abundantly clear over the rest of the show that Clovis really would've gotten in quite a lot of trouble with a lot very powerful, very nasty people if anything with C.C. had come to light. So, whilst the action he took was still monstrous, one can understand his being a tad irrational with fear at the time - indeed, one even realises that this probably him in the worst light possible. All in all, it becomes apparent that for all his many failings and the typical vices of the [[Social Darwinist]] Britannian aristocracy, Clovis was actually quite a nice guy. A [[Jerkass]]? Yes, by dint of the job. But a [[Jerkass Woobie]] in this troper's opinion.
** Clovis seems like a pretty evil guy compared to Lelouch's [[Anti-Hero]] tendencies... until we get halfway through the series and start to see how the good guys aren't as good and the bad guys aren't as evil as we first believed. Considering all the [[Character Derailment]] and [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]] that we see in the living characters, it makes perfect sense that Clovis ({{spoiler|and Marianne}}) get the exact same treatment.
* The battle between Lelouch's Britannia and the UFN is reminiscent of [[Star Wars]], except we are [[Rooting for
* Nina's, ahem, "romp" with Table-kun seems extremely out of place and, when I was watching with my father, embarrassing... but then you recall that Nina's full name is "Nina Einstein." Albert Einstein, although it's not commonly known, wasn't the celibate genius many people expect...
* After Lelouch accidentally geasses Euphemia into slaughtering the Japanese, we get a shot of the Emperor watching the massacre and [[Evil Laugh|laughing maniacally]], declaring, "You are worthy of being called my child now!" At first this just served to make him seem like more of a bigoted nutter, being happy that his daughter was committing genocide. But then in R2 we find out that the Emperor already knew quite a bit about Geass and what Lelouch was up to. Meaning he probably guessed that Lelouch geassed Euphie, but thought it was done intentionally in order to stir up anti-Brittanian sentiment. That's when you realize, the Emperor wasn't cheering on Euphemia's [[Ax Crazy]] rampage, he was cheering on Lelouch's ruthless manipulation of his sister and the Japanese population. He still comes off as a bastard, but a very different ''kind'' of bastard.
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