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* [[Hergé]], creator of ''[[The Adventures of Tintin]]'', worked for a newspaper in the 1940s which collaborated with the Nazis. In fairness, he later renounced his ties with Fascism.▼
* [[Lewis Carroll]]: The beloved author of ''[[Alice in Wonderland]]'', an imaginative children's classic, had a disturbing interest in photographing little girls, sometimes naked (though this wasn't an uncommon practice at the time; see [[Values Dissonance]]).▼
* Belgian children's author Gie Laenen, on the other hand, was convicted twice, in 1973 and 2005, for sexual abuse of minors.▼
▲* Hergé, creator of ''[[The Adventures of Tintin]]'', worked for a newspaper in the 1940s which collaborated with the Nazis. In fairness, he later renounced his ties with Fascism.
** During the 1930s one of his colleagues at his newspaper office was Léon Degrelle, who later would become the leader of the Belgian Rex Party, who collaborated with Nazi Germany.
** Consider
** Hergé also had a reputation as a child-hater.
* In 2010 it was learned that beloved Belgian comic strip artist [[Willy Vandersteen]] of ''[[Suske en Wiske]]''
== [[Film]] ==
* Many of the ''[[Our Gang]]'' (''[[The Little Rascals]]'') child actors had a problematic adulthood and died in tragic circumstances. Most of them never earned anything of their successful film career in the 1930s.
** Robert E. Hutchins ("Wheezer") died just short of age 20 when his Army Air Corps plane crashed on landing during a training exercise.
** Norman Myers Chaney ("Chubby") died at age 22 of a glandular ailment.
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** Jay R. Smith ("Jay") was stabbed to death at age 87 by a homeless man he befriended.
** Darwood Kaye ("Waldo") was shot by a hit-and-run driver at age 72.
**
* [[Bobby Driscoll]], child actor famous for his roles in many Disney films such as ''[[Song of the South]], [[Treasure Island]]'' and as the voice of [[Peter Pan]], never managed to recover from his success as a child actor. As a teen he became addicted to heroin and marijuana and was arrested several times,
* [[Drew Barrymore]]: the sweet two
* [[Lindsay Lohan]]: The cute eight-year
* Nearly every film adaptation of a popular TV show or cartoon show you used to enjoy as a child will be called an [[Ruined FOREVER|utter bastardization]] of [[Nostalgia Filter|everything that made the original show great]]. The general population often takes it better than the [[Hatedom]] makes it out to be, though.
** This also applies to sequels, [[Expanded Universe]] material, etc. made years after the original, kid-embraced work was made. Even if the original creators are involved, there's no guarantee the now-adult fans won't be distraught over the continuation's quality; just ask [[George Lucas]], who experienced this kind of backlash with the ''[[Star Wars]]'' prequel trilogy and ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]''.
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▲* [[Lewis Carroll]]: The beloved author of ''[[Alice in Wonderland]]'', an imaginative children's classic, had a disturbing interest in photographing little girls, sometimes naked (though this wasn't an uncommon practice at the time; see [[Values Dissonance]]).
* [[Michael Jackson]]: If you grew up with this childishly innocent entertainer during the 1970s and 1980s the child abuse accusations in the 1990s and 2000s came as a really disturbing shock.▼
▲* Belgian children's author Gie Laenen, on the other hand, was convicted twice, in 1973 and 2005, for sexual abuse of minors.
* [[Bing Crosby]]: The crooner with the gentle voice whose song "White Christmas" is still a staple of the holiday classics? Well, according to a book by one of his sons Crosby regularly beat his children and was an advocate of marijuana!▼
* [[The Mamas and the Papas]]: Lead singer John Phillips died in 2001, but in 2009 his daughter MacKenzie claimed that her father has an incestuous relation with her.▼
* Hearing songs you enjoyed and emotionally connected with when you were young being [[Repurposed Pop Song|misused in commercials]].▼
** Or being covered and sampled by extremely commercial pop artists for young ignorant audiences.▼
* Seeing rebellious rock and pop stars getting older is often a very disappointing spectacle. Old age [[I Was Quite a Looker|destroying their youthful appearance]] is one thing. But some of them still try to [[Rule-Abiding Rebel|act the part]] and come over as being [[Bourgeois Bohemian|pathetic poseurs]], while others simply want to be accepted by the mainstream and start to do stuff that is really square, unhip and/or a [[Sell Out|betrayal]] of their [[Former Teen Rebel|past beliefs]].▼
** [[Bob Dylan]], the most famous protest singer of his generation who wrote intelligent criticisms of organized religion and religious fanaticism like "With God On Our Side" performed in front of Pope John Paul II in the late 1990s.▼
** Johnny Rotten of the anarchic punk band [[The Sex Pistols]] making [[Money, Dear Boy|TV commercials]].▼
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** Child actor [[Todd Bridges]] had similar drug problems.
** And of course, there's all of [[Gary Coleman]]'s issues.{{context}}
* Paul Reubens, the star of ''[[Pee-wee's Playhouse]]'' was the most popular children's show TV host during the 1980s, but in 1991 he was [[Caught with Your Pants Down|Caught With His Pants Down]] in a porno theater, which almost destroyed his career.
* ''[[Family Matters]]'': Actress Jaimee Foxworth, who
* ''[[Eight Is Enough]]'': Child actor Adam Rich, who played Nicholas Bradford, was later arrested for his cocaine addiction and shoplifting.
* ''[[Full House]]'': Child actor Jodie Sweetin (Stephanie Tanner) later became addicted to alcohol and methamphetamines.
* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'': A milder example: This show was one of the most innovative, anarchic, unconventional and subversive comedy shows ever. Yet for all its ground breaking achievements the main cast mostly made and performed more traditional comedy in their post-Python career. Even embarrassingly unfunny sitcoms and films where they play the kind of safe, bland, uninspiring and conventional comedy that they originally used to rebel against.▼
* [[Bill Cosby]] was a beloved comedian for decades. If people weren't familiar with his standup, surely they knew him from decades of television, from ''I Spy'' in the late 60s to his children's shows ''Picture Pages'' and ''[[Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]]'' in the 70's and 80's (as well as frequent appearances on ''[[The Electric Company]]''). His career and fame reached new levels with ''[[The Cosby Show]]'' in the late 80's and early 90's. Then in late 2014 came the allegations of drugging and raping dozens of women at various points throughout his career, and generations of people who had loved his standup or his various television shows were shocked and horrified by the disturbing allegations.
* William Hartnell, the first Doctor of ''[[Doctor Who]]'', was said to be disturbingly racist at times by a number of people, including co-stars Nicholas Courtney (Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart) and Anneke Wills (Polly). Anneke Wills recounted Hartnell's objections to Earl Cameron being cast in the serial "The Tenth Planet", and how she and co-star Michael Craze (Ben Jackson) were disturbed by Hartnell's disrespectful attitude toward Cameron on the basis of his skin color.
* ''[[Power Rangers]]'': Ricardo "Rick" Medina Jr., who was best for the roles of [[Power Rangers Wild Force|Cole Evans]] and [[Power Rangers Samurai|Deker]], was arrested in 2015 for fatally stabbing his roommate
* ''[[Kamen Rider Super-1]]'': Shunsuke Takasugi, who portrays Kazuya Oki, the eponymous Rider of the series, was revealed to have swindled money (50 million yen) from his fans in 2013, and has since disappeared from the public eye since 2017.
* A milder example: If you ever saw [[The Muppets]] characters being performed by their puppeteers it can be very shocking to actually view with your own eyes they aren't real at all.
▲* [[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]: A milder example: This show was one of the most innovative, anarchic, unconventional and subversive comedy shows ever. Yet for all its ground breaking achievements the main cast mostly made and performed more traditional comedy in their post-Python career. Even embarrassingly unfunny sitcoms and films where they play the kind of safe, bland, uninspiring and conventional comedy that they originally used to rebel against.
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▲* [[Michael Jackson]]: If you grew up with this childishly innocent entertainer during the 1970s and 1980s the child abuse accusations in the 1990s and 2000s came as a really disturbing shock.
▲* [[Bing Crosby]]: The crooner with the gentle voice whose song "White Christmas" is still a staple of the holiday classics? Well, according to a book by one of his sons Crosby regularly beat his children and was an advocate of marijuana
▲* [[The Mamas and the Papas]]: Lead singer John Phillips died in 2001, but in 2009 his daughter MacKenzie claimed that her father
▲* Hearing songs you enjoyed and emotionally connected with when you were young being [[Repurposed Pop Song|misused in commercials]].
▲** Or being covered and sampled by extremely commercial pop artists for young ignorant audiences.
▲* Seeing rebellious rock and pop stars getting older is often a very disappointing spectacle. Old age [[I Was Quite a Looker|destroying their youthful appearance]] is one thing. But some of them still try to [[Rule-Abiding Rebel|act the part]] and come over as being [[Bourgeois Bohemian|pathetic poseurs]], while others simply want to be accepted by the mainstream and start to do stuff that is really square, unhip and/or a [[Sell Out|betrayal]] of their [[Former Teen Rebel|past beliefs]].
▲** [[Bob Dylan]], the most famous protest singer of his generation who wrote intelligent criticisms of organized religion and religious fanaticism like "With God On Our Side" performed in front of Pope John Paul II in the late 1990s.
▲** Johnny Rotten of the anarchic punk band [[The Sex Pistols]] making [[Money, Dear Boy|TV commercials]].
== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* For those who grew up watching [[WWE]]'s Ruthless Aggression era, [[Chris Benoit]]'s success as a wrestler, culminating with his World Heavyweight Championship win at [[Wrestlemania|Wrestlemania XX]] earned the admiration of young wrestling fans. But that's no longer the case thanks to his [[Pater Familicide]] in June 2007, so much so that WWE had to [[Unperson|remove all references and mentions of Benoit]] one day after WWE made a tribute show dedicated to him prior to details of the horrific crime came to light.
* For those who grew up watching [[WWE]]'s Rock N Wrestling era, [[Hulk Hogan]] was a hugely successful star. Though often criticized for his limited variety of wrestling moves, he more than made up for it with his charisma and his larger than life patriotic American superhero image. However, on closer inspection, it became clear he had a number of dark sides behind the scenes, which make even his [[Face Heel Turn]] in 1996 seem tame as far as childhood memory crushing moments go.
** Jesse Ventura attempted to start a union for wrestlers so that they would be treated more fairly by the WWE. Hogan ratted him out to [[Vince McMahon]] and the union was crushed.
** Hogan was infamous for his ego-driven booking behind the scenes, resulting in things like his impromptu match with Yokuzuna in ''Wrestlemania 9'' and subsequent title victory and his dominating WCW storylines for most of the 90s, at the expense of younger talent.
** And then there's his sleeping with the wife of his supposed friend Bubba the Love Sponge, and his pillow talk with her was caught on tape where he made a racist remark about how he wouldn't let his daughter date a black man unless the black man was rich (and the fact that he said the N-word didn't help matters either). This resulted in WWE temporarily giving Hogan a Benoit-like [[Unperson|removal of all references to him]] on their website until the media controversy over it went away.
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* [[Walt Disney]]: The world's most beloved and celebrated provider of clean, innocent fun for children had several dark sides to him.
** There's the fact that Disney was a chain smoker. He even died of lung cancer.
** Disney has been accused of being an anti-Semite and a racist, even though proof of this remains a matter of debate.
** He destroyed the careers of several of his former animators by accusing them of being left
* Often spoofed with Krusty the Clown in ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', who is often smoking or doing other disturbing things which children might find shocking.
* ''[[Der Fuehrer's Face]]'': Even though this is an anti-Nazi cartoon produced as a propaganda film during the Second World War it features [[Donald Duck]] in a Nazi uniform, saluting [[Adolf Hitler]] for most of the film. Even though it eventually turns out to be a nightmare it is still pretty disturbing. And this official Disney cartoon even won an Academy Award for Best Animated Short!
* All the direct-to-video sequels to some of their most beloved and classic films that Disney released in the 2000s. Every quality film you used to enjoy now has an inferior (sometimes ''vastly'' so) sequel.
** And then the Live Action Remakes in the 2010s and 2020s make that every quality animated film you enjoyed has now a competently produced but still inferior remake.
* [[Bugs Bunny]]
** His brief transformation into an Afro-American singer in the cartoon "Any Bonds Today?" (1942) has also been viewed as shockingly racist, while Bugs actually imitates singer [[Al Jolson]], who was known for his blackface make-up while performing.
* [[Judith Barsi]], the child actress who provided the voice of Anne-Marie in ''[[All Dogs Go to Heaven]]'' and of Ducky in ''[[The Land Before Time]]'' never lived to see the premiere of
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