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== Death Notes in other fiction ==
* What would happen if you wrote "Dick Cheney"? He wouldn't be able to die of a heart attack (as his blood flow will literally never stop unintentionally due to him having a non-stop pump, not a heart), but that's the default. This also applys to other human beings with that kind of artifical blood flow, as well as people with fully robotic bodies in [[Ghost in Thethe Shell]].
** If you're out to kill Motoko Kusanagi, you're in for a tough one before you even take in account the android body, because it's not her birth name and there's no guaranty shinigami's eyes would work on her robot face. Now, with Dick, you can go around the limitation of him not having a biological heart by killing through any number of way that don't involve cardiac arrest. As for what exactly would the Death note do without a specified way of death...
** Then [[wikipedia:Heart (band)|Ann and]] [[Just for Pun|Nancy Wilson]] will beat him to death.
* Quite simply, what would happen if someone with Shinigami Eyes looked at [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Buffy Summers]] in Season 1, 5, and after 6? At the end of Season 1, she dies, but is saved via CPR (but for all magical intents and purposes, she died). In Season 5, she dies again, this time for months. After that, she's brought back from the dead. Would they see her final death date from the start? Would it change each time she comes back? Would it stay the same until Season 5? What about someone looking at Dawn? Would they even see a human being, or would they see The Key? Also, at what point would Light go from seeing Dawn, to seeing The Key?
** Also regarding Dawnie, if someone wrote "Dawn Summers", would it work, or would it have to be "The Key"? She's legally Dawn Summers, but, mystically, she's The Key, and people only see her as Dawn Summers (unless they're crazy, at which point, they see her true form).
**Regarding Buffy, the Shinigami Eyes don't factor in changes to lifespan caused by Death Notes, I imagine that being resurrected by magic would also be ignored, as for the CPR, as death in Death Note is perament (barring the use of magic i.e. the Death Eraser) I suspect her first death wouldn't count as far a the Shinigami Eyes are concerned.
** Regarding, Dawn does she even count as human for the purposes of magic? if not she probably wouldn't display a name or lifespan at all. If she does count as human I suspect her name would be "Dawn Summers" as "The Key" isn't so much a name as it is a description.
* This is going to sound like the premise to a [[Fan Fiction]], but it really does bug me. What the limitations of the Death Note be ended up in another series? Could if trump [[Harry Potter|Voldemort's]] horcruxes? Or Hidan's immortality? Would it work on [[Inuyasha]] or Naraku since they're part human?
** I'm guessing the Death Note would work on Voldemort if one included the destruction of the horcruxes in the details of the death.
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* What would happen if used someone's common name in the Death Note in Eragon? Would the true name be needed? If so, what if it changed?
** If Paolini can't be bothered to keep a consistent magic system, the hypothetical crossover writer certainly need not feel constrained. The common name is the way to go. (Eh, on second thought, at least they ARE consistent about the truenaming thing. Sure - you need to write the true name, and if the true name changes between the writing and the time of death, you'll need to find it out all over again. Also, elves all have the Shinigami Eyes.)
* What would happen if a Death Note was used on [[Bleach (Manga)|Ichigo Kurosaki]]?
** Good question, especially since ''Death Note'' shinigami are more like Hollows than ''Bleach'' shinigami. I believe it would have no effect as Ichigo is technically already dead.
* Would the Death Note consider Klingons humans since they're part of the same species? What about the other animals that were in the genus: homo?
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*** However, since magic in Discworld is a ''wild'' thing there is also the possibility that a Death Note is still working, but more by magic than by ''death''.
*** Finally, ''Auditors'' can evaluate the Shinigami to be the laziest and most messy Death Gods they had never met and to fire them all. Cmp. "Reaper man", where Death was fired for ''simple interest'' in human beings.
** Ok, how about this: The Shinigami are not the personifications of death. They are trans-dimensional parasites, much like the [[Discworld (Literature)/Lords and Ladies|elves]]. Their parasite universe attatches itself to other worlds allowing the Shinigami to steal human lifespans. Now, when someone writes a name in a Death Note on the [[Discworld]], it results in sand disappearing from [[Death's Hourglass]]. It's possible that {{smallcaps| Death}} can fix it, but he probably either thinks it's against the rules or it's a lot of effort, even for him.
* Can a person killed with a Death Note become a zombie?
** Related question-: considering (crossing over with WMG) Death Note owners may already be in [[The Virus|the early stages]] of [[Dead All Along|of converting into Shinigami...]] then might they have an immunity to zombie-ism and other forms of [[The Virus]]?
* Can the Death Note be used to kill zombies? Heart attacks probably wouldn't work if the heart wasn't beating. Maybe if you write something like "Zombie Bob, [[Your Head Asplode|Head explodes]] resulting in permanent brain death." Maybe it depends on the type of zombie? [[Resident Evil|T-virus]] zombies versus supernaturally walking dead?
* What about using Death Notes in other narrative universe in generals? In DC Comics with Death of the [[Sandman|Endless]]? Or in "[[The Grim Adventures of Billy and& Mandy]]"?
** I'd imagine she'd do much the same as Light, but with more creative methods. And likely a wider criteria.
*** Of course, the Death Note can work like a Windows Application in a Mac environment, i. e. "eventually".
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** On a related note, suppose somebody who owned a death note was brought before {{spoiler|Charles zi Britannia}} to have their memories erased, but relinquished ownership of the death note right before losing their memory. If they later touched the same death note, what would happen?
** They would regain the memories related to the Death Note, but not any unrelated memories.
* Can you kill [[Heroes (TV series)|Claire Bennet]] with a Death Note?
** Possibly, though she'd get over it, as her body's healed itself countless times post-mortem. Out of curiosity, would her real name be Claire Gordon, as she was a few years old before the Bennetts got hold of her, and Nathan had nothing whatsoever to do with her until she was a teenager?
*** Good question. It might still be Bennet on the grounds that that has been her name for almost her entire life and was probably the first name she ever had.
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** They have two hearts, so they would probably both seize up and force a regeneration.
** Time Lords aren't human. Thus, no effect.
* [[Torchwood (TV)|Captain Jack Harkness.]] If someone made the eye trade and looked at him, what would they see for his lifespan?
** Let's not forget he was born in the 51st century, as well...
** It would probably display how much time he has before his next death.
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** Assuming the power of the Death Note extends to non-human sentient creatures, and assuming that each Angel has a unique name, and assuming that the writer found out its name, and assuming that nobody was looking at the Angel at the expected time of death, then I would say Yes.
*** Assuming all of the above to be in effect, the writer of the name would have to look at the Angel in order to know the face of the Angel, and then you'd be looking at them. Then you have to write the name, and wait for them to die, except that time doesn't exist for them as long as something is looking at them. Thus, you would have to turn your back to it for FORTY SECONDS. Then you'd be screwed. Just trick them into looking at each other. Much easier, and guaranteed to be effective.
* How about using the Death Note against [[Battlestar Galactica Reimagined(2004 TV series)|the humanoid Cylons]]-the ones which are for all intents and purposes ARE human-and against Cylon resurrection technology.
* So, if someone were expected to kill The Midnighter and Apollo of [[The Authority]], would 'Midnighter' and 'Apollo' work? Or would someone need their given names, before their names were erased from history when they officially became 'Midnighter' and 'Apollo.'
* If someone with a Geass commands somebody else to write in a death note, does it count as the geass user "using" the other person as a "tool" to write the name? In other words, is it the writer who is affected by the death note, or the will of the person who has the writing carried out? It would be easy to get around the incorrect name spelling rule with a suggestion to spell the name wrong.
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** Geass has been shown to work on God, and Shinigami are gods, so yes it would work. However, if the shinigami had a strong enough will he/she would probally be able to resist the geass long enough to kill its user.
* What about Shinichi Kudo and Shiho Miyano? Would the person in question trying to kill them with a Death Note have to know that they now look like little kids?
** And, on that note (no pun intended), if Shiho Miyano <ref> I'm not saying she ''does'', just saying ''if'' she did</ref> thinks of herself as Ai Haibara, would that change anything?
** What about if someone was always in disguise, but never changed the way they truly looked underneath, (like an actor, as opposed to someone getting plastic surgery,) would knowing how they always looked with the disguise on be enough?
*** What if they ''did'' get plastic surgery, and changed the basic way they looked?
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** We're talking about Chuck Norris' heart. It'd probably just roundhouse kick the heart attack right back at the Death Note user. (Don't ask how a human organ can kick something with no corporal form, I just know whatever Chuck Norris thinks is logical becomes logic itself, so don't question it!) In that cause, the Death Note user would die both from the rebounding heart attack AND roundhouse kick to the face.
** If you wrote Chuck Norris' name into the Death Note, he'd die of a heart attack because he's a normal human being and Chuck Norris facts are just very old attempts at being funny.
* What would happen if you tried to use a Death Note to kill [[Pokémon (Animeanime)|Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny]]?
** Unless you're personally able to tell them apart from each other the Death note would fail.
*** Well the Nurse Joy on the Orange Islands (I think it was the Orange Islands) was a bit more tanned and bulked than the other Nurse Joys, so you could kill her.
*** In the case of Nurse Joys, the anime's Sinnoh saga has established "Joy" as a surname. Thus, killing one specific Nurse Joy would be possible if one were to know their given name. In the case of Officer Jennies, nothing has been explicitly stated, but given that an "Officer Jenny trainee" has a name other than Jenny (Marble), it is either the same case as Joy, or "Jenny" is simply a title given to these specific groups of police officers. (As we can see from other Pokemon canons, there are police officers other than the Jenny class; most evident in the game canon where all officers are ''male'', save for the Jenny cameo in Yellow version.) [[Nightmare Fuel|Given this, Joys and Jennies would make for dangerously successful Kiras.]]
* What would happen if an [[Anti-Magic]] person touched a Death Note? For example what if [[ToA AruCertain Majutsu noMagical Index|Touma's Imagine Breaker]] or [[Mahou Sensei Negima|Asuna's magic canceling]] was used? Would it have no affecteffect, destroy the Death Note, undo the Death Note or immediately end all unissued commands?
** Anything written in the Death Note beforehand would still take affect, but the Death Note itself would be turned into a regular notebook. Furthermore, events normally triggered by loss of Death Note ownership would not trigger. In order to cancel anything written beforehand it would be neccesarynecessary to use the anti-magic ability on the target.
** What if someone tried to write Touma or Asuna's name in it? I'd assume they just be immune to it.
* Anything with time travel, since it doesn't appear to exist in the ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'' universe. Or ships that move at relativistic speeds. Or black holes. If the person whose name is written in a death note goes back in time, that would presumably extend the time, from their point of view, before the death note gets them (unless, and this is a distinct possibility as this troper remembers something on the subject of whether people still die after the death note in which their name is written is destroyed, whether the death note kills them or they had a sort of "death token" or their soul was told to die at the specified time) but not any details). If the "death token" possibility is accurate, does it go by universal time, or personal time (say, a person in 2004 is written to die in 2005. They go to 2001. Do they die in 2005 or 2002?) If the death note goes back in time, do dates written in the future still apply, or dies the 23-day rule move with the death note? (for example, on March 1, 2005, their name is written for March 21, 2005. If the writer goes back to February 10, 2005, are they no longer within the 23-day time limit?) If a person and a death note are moving at different near-light speeds (name drops ''definitely'' unintended), do they die based on the death note's time, universal time, or their own time? (A person in 3008 is written to die three days later universal time. Three days later, universal time, the person has only experienced two days, and the death note has only experienced one hour. Does he die then, does he die one of his days later, or does he die 71 of the death note's hours later? It gets even more complicated if they are moving at those speeds when the name is written. And does the lifespan/time of death thing above the person's head change to reflect this, or is it built in, or does it show the lifespan [if it is lifespan and not time of death] based on the perception of the person viewing it? Do shinigami even succumb to relativistic speeds, or do they always view time at the same rate?) A black hole is just the stuff that goes with the relativity issues, but with the added detail that the death note will exist slower and slower until it is destroyed, or just keep existing more and more slowly forever.
** Death Notes are based on extra-dimensional magic. For the sake of sanity I'll say that the time scale of the Shinigami home dimension is used as a basis for time calculations.
* [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]]: BATMAN VS LIGHT? Who would win?
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*** Four attempts at ''spelling'' it. I guess a name can be used more than once if you think of two different people each time.
*** ''[[Doctor Who]]'''s definition of human is quite stretched. Do hybrids and mongrels count? What about humans as data, mentioned in "Utopia" and seen in "Forest of the Dead"?
* If one were to kill [[Watchmen (comics)|Rorschach]] with a Death Note, how would do it? Given that he sees his superhero persona as his real self, would one enter Walter Kovacs in the notebook, or Rorschach? Also, he considers his mask his face. If one only new the superhero name and only saw the mask, would that count as both a name and a face?
** No, I am pretty sure you need his birth name and his flesh and blood face. Walter Kovacs was not always Rorschach; he spent several years past the age he could be killed before he began considering himself such. Presumably, during this time the name needed to kill him is Walter Kovacs. I doubt the name you need to kill a person can change mid-way through their life, even if they take up another name which they consider to be their true name for some reason (superheroes like Rorschach and Batman who think of themselves as their alter-egos, people who have amnesia and take up a new identity, or transexuals who pick a name from the opposite gender, for instance). As somebody said above "one body, one name. Write that down and they die no matter what wires are crossed in their brain." That name can't be Rorschach, because he was not always Rorschach; therefore it must be Walter Kovacs. As for the face, well, if you can't change your name, what hope do you have of sticking something in front of your birth face and making it count?
* If a ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' shinigami was in a gigai or someone else's body, and made the eye deal with a shinigami, would they still be able to use the shinigami eyes as a spirit?
** That depends; if they're able to transfer their other spiritual powers into different forms, presumably they could also transfer the eyes.
* If shinigami eyes were used on a clan leader in ''[[Warrior Cats (Literature)|Warrior Cats]]'', would it show how long until they next died, or how long until they died for good?
* What would happen if a death note was used on [[The Crow|Eric Draven]]?
* This may have been answered in a different way already, but what would happen to a [[Doctor Who|Cybus Cyberman]] under the 40-second heart attack rule when they don't have hearts?
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** And what about data ghosts automatically uploaded to [[Doctor Who|CAL]]? Or regular alive humans stored in her teleport?
* How would a Death Note affect a [[Danny Phantom|Halfa?]]
* What would happen if a Death Note was used on [[SCP Foundation|SCP-682]], which is almost impossible to kill?
 
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