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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* Trisha Elric from ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' was portrayed as being a wonderful, loving mother; so much so that her children decide they're going to [[Back Fromfrom the Dead|bring her back to life]]. [[Came Back Wrong|Big mistake.]]
* Kyoko Honda from ''[[Fruits Basket]]'' was an amazing person who imparted her wisdom and desire to help both others and her daughter Tohru, causing her memory to live on with her. She dies in a car accident shortly before the series begins.
** For that matter, Tohru's ''dad'', Katsuya. Apparently he was such an understanding sort that he fell in love with Kyoko while she was still a delinquent, got her to see that she could be better than everyone thought, and married her despite objections from his family. In fact, a good deal of the wisdom and attitude that Tohru's mother imparted to her comes from the faith she learned from Katsuya. {{spoiler|Although Tohru herself suggests that she felt some resentment toward her father for her mother's suicidal behavior after he died.}}
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** Gets worse in the novelizations, which contain a [[Flash Back]] scene where {{spoiler|Bismarck sees Marianne interacting with her kids and notices, to his shock, that there's absolutely no love in her face or demeanor - to her they're just objects.}}
* Negi's father and mother in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' is a [[Disappeared Parents Are the Best]] variation, since they're not confirmedly dead, only MIA ({{spoiler|At least, Nagi is. Arika...not so sure}}). Yes, he's never actually met either of them, but given [[Government Conspiracy|all]] [[Clear My Name|the]] [[Faking the Dead|crap]] they [[It Got Worse|had to go through]], they did a damn good job getting Negi the best ([[Give Him a Normal Life|and safest]]) childhood that they could.
* Probably the most normal, stable adult in ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' was Haruhi's dead lawyer mom. The more benign of the other adults are [[Wholesome Crossdresser]] [[Cloudcuckoolander|Cloudcuckoolanders]]s.
* Partially deconstructed in [[Naruto]]. Naruto's parents died the day he was born, though they did love him {{spoiler|and even protect him from beyond the grave.}} Still, he's an emotional basket case, though not as bad as [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|Pain]], [[Jerkass Woobie|Sasuke]] or [[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|Gaara (though in Gaara's case becoming an orphan was merciful, since his father kept trying to kill him).]] It's only partially deconstructed because while many parents are abusive or negligent, some of Naruto's friends do have good parents.
* ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]'': Kimba's father was killed trying to rescue his pregnant wife from hunters, and during her time with Kimba, his mother taught him his father's ideals. When she was killed off, Kimba aimed at becoming a benevolent ruler of his father's jungle for the honor and pride of his family.
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** However, this is slightly subverted. Jack Murdock loved his son, but Matt, as an adult, admits that he greatly resented his father forcing him to study instead of being allowed to play with other children. Further, when Matt got into a fight and beat up a boy who was picking on him, Jack actually slapped him, something the adult Daredevil tries to turn a blind eye to.
*** Matt Murdock's mom was also dead in the original origin, but Frank Miller later retconned it so she became a nun and Jack lied to Matt about her being dead.
* [[Stan Lee]], co-creator of [[Daredevil]], loved this trope, and it's especially noticeable in [[Spider-Man]], where Peter Parker is three times an orphan, with his biological parents already dead at the beginning of ''Amazing Fantasy'' #15 and his surrogate father, Uncle Ben, killed in that story. It was later revealed that his parents were [[Badass]] secret agents who once saved [[Wolverine]]. Oh, and Uncle Ben apparently saw [[Captain America (comics)]] first-hand. Other examples from the Silver Age:
** Sue and Johnny Storm turned from half-orphans to orphans by the death of their father, Franklin Storm, in early ''Fantastic Four''. Neither Reed Richards nor Ben Grimm had living parents (that was later changed for Reed by John Byrne), Ben just mentioned his Aunt Petunia.
** Scott Summers, an orphan in the original version, as was his brother Alex, although [[Chris Claremont]] later introduced Corsair as their long-lost father. Scott was originally mentored by the criminal Jack o' Diamonds.
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** It even extended to supporting characters, most notably in the case of Gwen Stacy, who perhaps had the coolest dad of Marvel's 1960s.
* [[Superman]] both uses and averts this trope. Jor-El and Lara are shown to be very loving toward their only son, even if Krypton might not have been the best place for little Kal-El to have been raised, and of course are killed when Krypton explodes. Ma and Pa Kent on the other hand, while not Clark's biological parents, are loving, understanding, and always there to give their superpowered alien son helpful advice whenever he needs it.
** Basically, the whole reason Superman is [[The Cape (trope)]] is because of good parenting.
*** In the pre-Crisis version and also the first Christopher Reeve movie, Pa Kent had to die before Clark would leave Smallville for Metropolis.
* [[Lex Luthor]] actually killed his parents in the current continuity--wellcontinuity—well, cut their brake lines on a rainy night, which--wellwhich—well, you know. Reason? [[Shout-Out|Got in]] [[The Simpsons (animation)|his way.]]
* Inverted by [[The Punisher]]. He would have been a good parent. But it was his kids who died, not him.
* James-Michael's parents in [[Omega the Unknown]] were very caring despite being {{spoiler|[[Robotic Reveal|robots]]}}.
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== [[Fan Works]] ==
* ''[[The Joy of Battle]]'', a ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' fanfic, subverts this trope with Joy's mother. The first chapter sets up the typical [[Deceased Parents Are the Best]] scenario with a side character mentioning Joy's mother favorably. Several chapters later, when Sorrow channel's her mother's spirit, Joy makes it obvious that she does not like her mother (living or dead!). Much later in the story, we learn why.
* [[Cori Falls]]'s Pokemon fanfics portray Jessie's mother Miyamoto as a [[Purity Sue|saintly, loving, nurturing woman who died tragically before her time]], and Jessie never misses a chance to [[Wangst|wax emotional about this]]. Becomes a double dose of this trope when Jessie finally finds out about her father Dorian, who's portrayed as a [[Tragic Hero]].
* Zuko and Katara in ''[[How I Became Yours: Rise of the Agni Army]]'', [[Designated Hero|at least according to the author]].
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* ''[[Alice in Wonderland (film)|Alice in Wonderland]]'': Alice's father, Charles Kingsleigh, would comfort Alice after having a nightmare. He would also encourage her unconventional thought patterns and tell her that it's okay to be mad. Alice would eventually follow in her father's shoes and take up his old business ventures.
* In ''[[Star Wars]] Episode IV: [[A New Hope]]'', Luke Skywalker's mother is dead, and his father is implied to be dead as well (though [[It Was His Sled|by now]] [[Luke, I Am Your Father|everyone knows the truth]]). Furthermore, his Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, the parental figures who raised him afterward, are killed by stormtroopers shortly after Luke meets Obi-wan Kenobi.
* Vana's mother in ''[[My Girl (manga)|My Girl]]''. Subverted in the sequel when Vana goes to her mother's old home town to do research on her for a school project [[Broken Pedestal|and finds out she wasn't so perfect]].
* [[The Visit]] has a variation: {{spoiler|deceased ''grandparents'' are best. The real grandparents were patient, loving people who tried to reconcile with their daughter after she left home, worked part-time in a hospital (one of the former patients recalls how they sat up at night with her while she recovered from drug addictions), and were thrilled to meet their grandchildren for the first time. They were murdered by two insane patients before the visit happens.}}
 
== [[Literature]] ==
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* ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]'': The parents were supportive and passed their best traits on to their children, but not forcefully. Then the parents die in a house fire, and the children live with many unsuitable guardians.
** {{spoiler|It is possible that Count Olaf suffers from this also, his parents being poisoned years before by the "good" guys.}}
** Uncle Monty is the next relative the children are left with after Count Olaf. He's very welcoming, inviting them to an exciting trip to Peru, encouraging them to spend time studying his reptile collection, and takes them to the movies every night. Olaf ultimately murders him to ensure he'll be able to kidnap the children.
* ''[[Harry Potter]]''- Harry Potter's parents, even if Harry can't remember them.
** There is a slight twist with James though. Making him a bully in high school was a brilliant move. It's a flaw that strikes a nerve the frequently nerd-identified fans and fleshes James out a bit so that he's no longer the perfect but flat dead father. For many fans though, it struck too much of a nerve, and they can't get past James and Sirius's bullying past. It doesn't help that we never get to see James grow as a person, and the idea that someone can ''grow out of'' being a bully is not widely seen in media.
** Lupin attempts to deliberately invoke this trope in the final book, in the belief that he'll do more for his son by dying heroically than by living on as a hated werewolf. [[Berserk Button|The idea that a child would be happier with his father dead cuts a little too close for Harry, who blows up at him.]] {{spoiler|Tragically, however, both Lupin and his wife [[Last-Name Basis|Tonks]] die in the final battle anyway.}}
** Subverted with Tom Riddle, who considered his mother inferior purely by virtue of her dying. Even as a child, he considered death to be a weakness.
* ''[[James and the Giant Peach]]'': James had two loving parents until they were eaten by an escaped rhinoceros (yes, a rhinoceros) when he was 4 years old. The absurdity is so deliberate it's a [[Better Than a Bare Bulb]] example of this trope, or an [[Exaggerated Trope]]. Highly unusual in that it's making light of the tragic death of his parents, a [[Mood Dissonance]].
* Every living mother in every single [[Jane Austen]] novel is ineffectual in some way or other. There are three dead mothers: Mrs Tilney in ''Northanger Abbey'', Emma's mother in ''Emma'', and Lady Elliot in ''Persuasion''. They were all epitomes of perfection.
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* [[Sue Grafton|Kinsey Millhone]] lost her parents at the age of 5 and doesn't seem to miss them much, and was quite content to grow up with her aunt as a guardian.
* [[The Edge Chronicles]] provides a subversion. In ''The Last of the Sky Pirates'' we meet Deadbolt Vulpoon, who tells Rook what a good and noble man his father Thunderbolt Vulpoon was, dying to save others. Except that the reader already knows from the previous book that he was actually a slave trader who got his comeuppance. It's not clear whether Deadbolt is lying or genuinly believes what he's saying. It's not quite [[Never Speak Ill of the Dead]] because there's only one character still around who knows what his father was really like, and he doesn't really say anything other than that he'd met him once.
* [[The Dresden Files|Harry Dresden's]] both died when he was very young. His mother subverted the hell out of this -- shethis—she led a pretty troubled life in the world of magic before she fell in love with [[Nice Guy]] Malcolm Dresden. Harry's father played it straight. Harry described Malcolm as a good if naive man, and as Harry grew older he could see what his late mother saw in him. When his father died in his sleep one night, Harry felt truly alone for the first time in his life.
* [[The Elric Saga|Elric]] is the emperor of Melniboné, so by definition his parents must be dead. (When they died is the subject of confusion, as one book has him remembering his parents fondly while another says that his mother [[Death by Childbirth|died giving birth to him]].) Plus, if there'd been more than one person left in the empire who {{spoiler|Elric didn't completely despise, he might not have felt like destroying the entire civilization.}}
 
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* In the 1998 ''[[Merlin (TV miniseries)|Merlin]]'' series, the titular character is an orphan, born to a mortal woman without a mortal father. [[Big Bad|Queen Mab]] seemed to deliberately invoke this trope, as she didn't make any move to save Merlin's mother after she'd given birth to him. Before [[Death by Childbirth|dying of childbirth]], Elissa made [[Parental Substitute|Ambrosia]] promise to take care of Merlin.
* [[Maddigans Quest|Maddigan's Quest]] plays with this trope; Garland idolises her father Ferdie, occasionally to the detriment of her mother, while Eden has complete trust in the ideals his parents died for. [[Jade-Colored Glasses|His brother Timon]], on the other hand...
* ''[[Frasier]]'' and Niles' mother Hester is often remembered in the best possible light by them (and Martin) as a compassionate, considerate, cultured and down to earth woman. There is the occasional hint that this view is not entirely accurate; she had a brief affair, it is sometimes implied that her method of raising the boys was ultimately damaging to them, and (if her appearance on ''[[Cheers]]'' is anything to go by) she could be outright hostile to Frasier's love interests. It's still made clear that despite her faults this is not an entirely inaccurate view of her, however, and that for her faults she was still a loving mother and husband to them, hence why they choose to remember her fondly.
 
== [[Theater]] ==
* Electra takes this kind of attitude towards Agamemnon in ''[[Electra]]'', even feeling morally justified in wanting to kill her mother to avenge his death.
* Played with in ''[[Les Miserables]]''. Cosette's mother, Fantine, slowly wastes away and eventually dies from her efforts to support her daughter and Valjean later tells her that her mother always loved her, but Cosette herself is unable to remember her mother after the time skip (although she does ask her father who her mother was) and is put in the care of an equally loving guardian.
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
* Pretty common trope in ''[[Nippon Ichi]]'' games. The parents of [[Disgaea|Laharl]], [[Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice|Mao]] (mother unknown, presumed to be dead), [[Phantom Brave|Marona]], and [[Soul Nomad|Danette]] were all depicted as loving parents before they died.
** {{spoiler|''[[Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories]]'''s Adell too.}}
* Miles Edgeworth's father in ''[[Ace Attorney]]'' was so good that his character was partially based on [[To Kill a Mockingbird|Atticus Finch]]. He's murdered when Miles is nine, unfortunately leaving him in the hands of a far more [[Amoral Attorney]].
** Likewise, it's practically hammered home what a loving father {{spoiler|Byrne Faraday}} is during the course of investigating his murder. No wonder {{spoiler|his daughter Kay}} [[Take Up My Sword|wanted to carry on his work.]]
* Metis Cykes died when Athena was a child. Athena believed her mother only viewed her as a scientific curiosity {{spoiler|but it turns out that her mother's research was devoted to dampening her daughter's sensitive hearing, so Athena could live a pain-free life. It's mentioned by Simon that Athena was the one Metis loved the most.}}
* Part of the reason [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Ange]] hates her aunt Eva so much is because she doesn't think anyone could ever replace her parents (no to mention the fact that she suspects Eva was the one who killed them). {{spoiler|This is subverted to Hell and back in episode 7, where [[Awful Truth|it turns out]] Eva ''did'' kill them, but in what was more or less self-defense. Of course, the one telling her this is [[Unreliable Narrator|Bernkastel]], so who knows? Either way, Ange [[Heroic BSOD|doesn't take]] [[Go Mad Fromfrom the Revelation|it well]].}}
* ''[[Mother 3]]'', [[Darker and Edgier]], kills Hinawa through [[Dropped a Bridge on Him]]. Not only was Hinawa a great mother, but Flint, the father, becomes neglectful and distant towards Lucas after her death (in the search for their other son Claus).
* In [[Katawa Shoujo]], the parents range from being uninvolved in their children's lives (Hisao's parents, Rin's parents) to outright abandoning them ({{spoiler|Lilly's parents}}) or being [[Abusive Parents]] ({{spoiler|Shizune's father}}), with the exception of Emi's mother. The deceased parents are considerably better; Emi speaks fondly of her deceased father, and Hanako's mother {{spoiler|[[Mama Bear|shielded Hanako with her body]] during the house fire, [[Heroic Sacrifice|saving her daughter's life at the cost of her own]].}}