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{{quote|''The aim [of [[Channel Five]] Children's Hour] should be childhood innocence tinged with sinister corruption. So think [[CBBC|Andi Peters]]''.
|'''Humphrey Lyttelton'''|''[[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue]]''.}}
Kids' show hosts. They laugh, they sing, they smile, they bring joy to children all over the world... at least, on the surface. But beneath that shiny, happy façade lies the Depraved Kids Show Host, a character you would not, under any circumstances, want your children around.
Unlike his [[Excited Kids' Show Host|zany-go-lucky cousin]], who's excitable but alright, the
This trope plays on the irony of a jovial character who interacts with children actually being a horrible person. As such, it's related to [[Monster Clown]] and other like tropes.
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This is especially popular in [[Real Life]] [[Urban Legends]], the insinuations of which can ruin someone's career. For some reason, people just can't believe that a right-thinking adult would want to spend his life teaching kids manners and helping them grow as people. Fred Rogers would respectfully disagree; this is generally ''not'' [[Truth in Television]].
See also [[Nice Character, Mean Actor]], [[Villain
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* This is the backstory for the modern incarnation of the ''[[Superman]]'' villain [[wikipedia:Prankster (DC Comics)#Modern Age version|The Prankster]].
* ''[[Sandman]]'': "Hey kids, Dino the Dinosaur is trying to tell me something. Gee, Dino! I didn't know it was Terry Pteranodon's birthday today. Should we bake him a cake? And you want to tell me something else, do you Dino? We're all going to die. Dino says we're all going to die. Dino told me. He says we should slash our wrists now, and remember to slash down the wrist, boys and girls, not across the wrist." PLEASE STAND BY, [[We Are Experiencing Technical Difficulties]].
* Hazel and Cha-Cha from ''[[The Umbrella Academy]]'', sort of. See the back of issue 3: "The Hazel and Cha-Cha Show: Who needs drugs when you have cookies and guns?" And really, with those big cartoon characters heads...? The two are basically what the hosts of a kids show created by Quentin Tarantino would be like.
* Crocky, a ''[[Barney and Friends
** Another ''[[Batman]]'' story featured a kids' show presenter who was trapped in Gotham during ''[[Batman: No
* ''[[Mad Magazine]]'' did a typical kiddie show parody starring one Uncle Nutzy, physically based on rude stand-up comic Jack E. Leonard, running a show featuring mindlessly violent cartoons and boot-licking sponsor worship. At show's end he's on the phone with his wife, angrily admonishing her for letting their kids watch his show.
* Kyle Baker's ''The Cowboy Wally Show'' had a
* ''[[Viz]]'' has the character of "Roger Mellie, the Man on the Telly," a foul-mouthed alcoholic and perverted TV presenter who in several strips lands a job on kids' TV and inevitably reverts to type in front of the horrified audience.
* Clown from the ''[[Hellraiser]]'' comic series was originally a Saturday morning show host named Winky Dink who wound up becoming a Pseudo-Cenobite, charged with keeping the children who wind up in The Labyrinth occupied so they don't run amok, causing chaos. He does so through pretty disgusting ways (not entirely by choice though, since Leviathan punishes him if he does anything remotely pleasant). A later story reveals he'd been upgraded to a complete, overly-sadistic Cenobite at some point, having finally gotten his "routine" right.
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* There is an excellent (if [[Nightmare Fuel|extremely]] [[Paranoia Fuel|scary]]) [http://de.jihad.net/lib/bull-dotb.txt fanfic] wherein Barney the dinosaur was some incarnation of a demonic being that reappeared every few centuries to wreak havoc. At the start of the fanfic, he held a special broadcast to persuade his young viewers to murder their parents and any other adults around, then inducted them into a cult. When any of them reached 13, he killed them (or worse). Gah.
** Flashbacks also show that he helped the Black Plague spread, and also saved Adolf Hitler during [[WW 1]] and set him on his path.
* Parodied in ''[[Pokemon Squad]]''. A scene features Henry and June finishing up a ''[[
== Film ==
* In ''[[Death to Smoochy]]'' every host is deranged, and the whole industry is backed by the mob. When pushed, even Smoochy reveals some anger management issues.
* Floop from the first ''[[Spy Kids]]'' film was villainous, but really [[Harmless Villain|harmless]]. He's mostly a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] getting played by the [[Big Bad]], and turns on the [[Big Bad]] when asked nicely.
** Even before he turns, he clearly cares more about the quality of the show than about the plans of world domination. {{spoiler|When he turns a spy into one of the creatures on his show, the first thing he comments on is how the new "character" will be a holiday rush favorite.}}
* There were plans for a sequel for William Lustig's ''[[Maniac (
* ''[[
== Literature ==
* Somewhat meta example: Uncle Jingle, host of an insanely popular 'Net kids show in [[Tad Williams]]' [[Cyberpunk]] novel ''[[Otherland]]'', is more or less a nice fellow, if heavily [[Merchandise-Driven]]. (In fact, he's actually played by actors working in shifts, since the show is on 24/7.) However, the character itself was inspired by the [[Monster Clown]] figure Mr. Jingo who haunts the [[Big Bad]]'s nightmares.
* ''[[Shel Silverstein|Uncle Shelby's ABZ Book]]''
* In ''High Society'' by [[Ben Elton]], Tommy mentions that almost every children's TV presenter he has met was a heavy drug user, which he imagines is because it drives them insane to constantly have to act perky and cheerful for their audience.
== Live
* The demonic puppet hosts of "Smile Time" from ''[[
* In the ''[[Frasier]]'' episode "Juvenilia", Frasier is railroaded into a harsh interrogation from the three hosts of "Teen Scene".
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** And then there was Nanny G, Frasier's first wife. She had become a Raffi-style children's entertainer in the meantime. During a concert she gave, she started singing a song that Lilith immediately interpreted as sexual, but Frasier explained as being sung to a child... until the next line...
* Mexican clown Brozo's entire schtick is this; he's a depraved, homeless, bitter and a tad mysogynistic. Of course, this is played for laughs... currently he has a [[
* Shirty the Slightly Agressive Bear from ''[[The Late Show]]''
* Pate Biscuit from ''[[The Big Gig]]''
* The ''Happy Smile Patrol'' sketch from ''[[Saturday Night Live|SNL]]''. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130923191233/http://snltranscripts.jt.org/98/98qhappy.phtml Read a transcript here.] It's ''guaranteed'' to make you laugh and gasp with horror simultaneously.
** Here, [
* From Finnish sketch comedy, there's the legendary "Nasse-setä" who is chronically hung over, and irritated at the anatomically incorrect drawings kids send him, taking offense at exceptionally large nose holes and lack of an actual nose in one of them and coming to the conclusion that the kid who drew it is a lazy slob who doesn't bother to draw any noses, let alone blow them because "you can't possibly blow a nose like this neatly!". His [[Catch Phrase]] was "Nasse-setä on harvinaisen vihainen!" [Uncle-Nasse is exceptionally angry!].
** Then there was Touko-Pouko from ''Studio Julmahuvi'', the [[Show Within a Show|Show Within A Shows]] [[Butt Monkey]] children's host with a severe case of lazy eye, hair resembling a clown's wig minus the silly colors and a deeply disturbed personality. In his segments he might be dressed as Tarzan, an indian, riot police, a ninja or an astronaut. His idea of a good home activity might also be making a soul out of barbed wire and silly putty and comment how "we all have one inside of us, a misshapen ugly lump like this".
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* An episode of ''Mathnet'' featured Vicious Vinnie, a villainous children's show host who taught kids incorrect information like that Chicago was the capital of Illinois.
* "Tia Penha" (Aunt Penha), one of the many characters of Brazilian Comedian Marcelo Médici, is a gender flipped version of this. But unlike other examples, she's an outright [[Jerkass|bitch]] even on air. She [[Grimmification|subverts upbeat children' songs]] by [[Kill'Em All|telling that everyboy died in the end]] and that everybody WILL die ([[And Your Little Dog, Too|your mommy included]]). She's also particularly fond of telling some truths about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
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* Boxcar Burt, a briefly-seen in-universe host watched by [[Space Ghost|Brak]] and [[Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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* A man who played Dougie the Whale in one episode of ''[[The Fresh Prince of Bel
* ''[[Laugh In]]'' often featured the demented "Uncle Al, the Kiddie's Pal!" who was usually hungover and kept cracking bad double-entendre jokes and running around like a maniac.
* ''[[SCTV]]'' had ''Muley's Roundhouse'', featuring ol' Muley, who sulks and mopes throughout his program, in addition to critically ignoring the trains on his watch. This includes his criticism of the children's artwork sent to him: "These are the worst ones yet! You probably send the good ones to people you like!"
* Charlie Harper of ''[[Two and A Half Men
* ''[[Little Britain]]'' has the character of Des Kaye, the disgraced former host of a children's show called "Fun Bus." It's eventually revealed that he was fired because a child [[Eye Scream|lost an eye]] while appearing on his show, and the ''Little Britain'' live stage show hints that Des's "Hide the Sausage'' audience participation game might also have had something to do with it ...
* Back in [[The Eighties]], an episode of ''Les Dennis's Laughter Show'' featured Les parodying then-[[CBBC]] host Phillip Schofield. Dennis's version of Schofield gets steadily more drunk, attempts to murder [[Non-Human Sidekick]] Gordon T. Gopher, and eventually has a prostitute/groupie in the studio who he tries to pass off as "Gordon's mum"! Bizarrely, Schofield himself, long after his CBBC career, was interviewed for [[Channel
* In universe, Jane from ''[[Coupling]]'' ''almost'' became this... she had the depraved part down pat, it was just the "Kid's show host" part that was up in the air... after all, her sidekick was a sock puppet named Jake the <s> Penis</s> Truth-Snake.
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'''Jake:''' Oh, shut up, you deluded bitch! }}
* Inverted by [[The State]] with "Blueberry Muffins in the Morning," a show proposed by Blueberry, a children's television producer who looks and acts like a clown in real life.
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* ''[[Reno 911!]]'' had an odd example. Reading Ron is actually a great host, who does his best to put his dark past behind him. Enter the Reno Sheriff's Department, who so thoroughly ruin Reading Ron's Police episode that it sends Ron into a cocaine fueled rampage on the roof of the station.
* Season 2 of ''[[
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'''Tina:''' Now, Jason came up with an idea for making even more money from the amount you'd already raised.
'''Alistair:''' He transferred that money into another bank account...
'''Tina:''' And spent it on a large amount of ''special powder''. This powder, like the holiday center, is designed to make people feel very happy... }}
* Ernie Kovacs was very fond of this trope. His character Uncle Buddy would allow kids to walk backwards blindfolded on the Staten Island Ferry railing. Another of Kovacs' characters, Mr. Science, could barely hide his exasperation toward his easily distracted kid helper Billy. Kovac's Hungarian chef character Miklos Molnar would show up to host a Howdy Doody knockoff show as "Buffalo Miklos". In addition to treating the Claribel knockoff with utter contempt, Miklos would get drunk, cut Howdy's strings, and yell at the kids in the peanut gallery to shut up.
* The short-lived Science Fiction series [[Special Unit 2]] featured a children's show host (an [[Captain Ersatz|ersatz]] of Barney the Dinosaur) [[Monster of the Week|who turned out]] [[Aliens and Monsters|to be a]] [[They Walk Among Us|"Link"]] with a ''Pied Piper of Hamlin'' power.
* ''[[Sherlock]]'' villain, [[Psycho for Hire]] [[For the Evulz|(And Fun!)]] and [[Complete Monster]] Jim Moriarty is also a children's television presenter under an assumed name {{spoiler|for the purposes of his evil plan to kill Sherlock Holmes}}.
== Radio ==
* Taken to pretty much its ultimate conclusion by [[The Burkiss Way
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▲* Taken to pretty much its ultimate conclusion by [[The Burkiss Way|The Burkiss Way's]] "Childrens Favourites with Uncle Hitler."
▲{{quote| "HELLO CHILDREN, EVERYVHERE! Und today, der first record ist der request from Norman und Edith Carruthers, for their little son Villie! Vally Vhyton, mit der disken kiddiewinks: DER RUNAWAY TRAIN! Unfortunately, ve haf some bad news for you! Der BBC Record Library cannot manage der aktual recording by Vally Vhyton! So! Inshtead, ve haf decided... TO INVADE POLAND!"}}
== Urban Legends ==
* Urban legends adore this. Quick, think of a kids' show host! Got one? At some point, you've probably heard the rumour that he's a convicted child molester who's on the show as part of his community service
** [[Mister Rogers' Neighborhood|Fred Rogers]] was a [http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp heavily tattooed, cold-blooded sniper (or possibly a child molester)].▼
▲* Urban legends adore this. Quick, think of a kids' show host! Got one? At some point, you've probably heard the rumour that he's a convicted child molester who's on the show as part of his community service <ref>Of course, no law enforcement agency in the world would let pedophiles work with children, let alone ''force'' them to, but this is the world of Urban Legends -- the more outrageous, the better.</ref>, some sort of deranged murderer, or a drug addict. Some notable examples of this trope (courtesy of Snopes):
** During the Golden Age of Radio, a legend was created whereby a local children's radio host named Uncle Don uttered the comment, "[http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/bastards.asp That ought to hold those little bastards!]" after one of his shows. Uncle Don was the genial grandfatherly type gent who would read a bedtime story for children at 7 p.m. (local time), after which he said a gentle good night ... until the night where after his show he snarled the infamous remark, unaware his radio mike was still on and could clearly pick up his statement; the story goes on to claim that a flood of calls to the radio station's management resulted in Uncle Don's swift cancellation and his dismissal from radio. The legend has been told about many radio and television performers over the course of several decades, and predates Uncle Don's career by a few years.
▲** [[Mister Rogers Neighborhood|Fred Rogers]] was a [http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp heavily tattooed, cold-blooded sniper (or possibly a child molester)].
** Steve from ''[[
▲** During the Golden Age of Radio, a legend was created whereby a local children's radio host named Uncle Don uttered the comment, "[http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/bastards.asp That ought to hold those little bastards!]" after one of his shows. Uncle Don was the genial grandfatherly type gent who would read a bedtime story for children at 7 p.m. (local time), after which he said a gentle good night ... until the night where after his show he snarled the infamous remark, unaware his radio mike was still on and could clearly pick up his statement; the story goes on to claim that a flood of calls to the radio station's management resulted in Uncle Don's swift cancellation and his dismissal from radio. The legend has been told about many radio and television performers over the course of several decades, and predates Uncle Don's career by a few years.
▲** Steve from ''[[Blues Clues]]'' [http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/bluesclues.asp committed drug-induced suicide], a rumor probably started when he played a drug addict on ''[[Law and Order]]''.
** Barney is a [http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/barney.asp crack dealer. Also, he committed suicide. In his costume!]
*** Don't forget that he swore at a kid that stepped on his foot. On live national TV.
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* Equally supposedly, one of the people on ''[[Bananas in Pajamas]]'' was replaced after drunken brawling. This detail often appears in these stories, probably because you ''can'' replace an actor in a suit more easily than another kind of host.
* You don't even want to hear some of the stories that went about involving Jimmy Savile, host (among other things) of 80's UK children's programme ''Jim'll Fix It''. Suffice to say that they involve a supposed stint working in the mortuary at a children's hospital (he was actually a porter at Broadmoor secure hospital), and leave people to work it out from there...
* Might better fit in [[Real Life]], but [https://web.archive.org/web/20131212092446/http://skippyslist.com/2010/08/13/horrible-things-in-my-head/ this] blog post, suggesting that the Wiggles have plumbed the depths of sexual depravity as no man has since Mick Jagger was mummified.
== Video Games ==
* Played for laughs in ''[[Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice]]'' with the final Diez Gentleman. A rare female example.▼
▲* Played for laughs in ''[[Disgaea 3]]'' with the final Diez Gentleman. A rare female example.
* Captain Cutlass from ''[[Critical Depth]]'' was a nautically-themed kids-show host turned actual [[Pirate]].
* Crotchy the nutsack from ''[[Postal|Postal 2]]''.
* In ''[[
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* ''[[The Perry Bible Fellowship]]'' did a comic about a Depressed Kids Show Host: [http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF247-Catch_Phrase.jpg "Gee Golly Jeepers!"]▼
* Used for a
▲* [[Perry Bible Fellowship]] did a comic about a Depressed Kids Show Host: [http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF247-Catch_Phrase.jpg "Gee Golly Jeepers!"]
▲* Used for a oneshot gag in [[Ghastlys Ghastly Comic]], with plushophiliac Bunny Boy violating a stuffed rabbit in front of the audience. "What kind of world is it where it's okay to buy toys for children but bad to teach them how to play with them?"
== Western Animation ==
* [[The Simpsons (animation)|Krusty the Clown]]: When the cameras are rolling, he's the zany clown kids love! In his off hours, he's lewd, rude, addicted to pretty much everything, treats his biggest fan (Bart) like crap (despite the numerous things Bart did for
▲* [[The Simpsons|Krusty the Clown]]: When the cameras are rolling, he's the zany clown kids love! In his off hours, he's lewd, rude, addicted to pretty much everything, treats his biggest fan (Bart) like crap (despite the numerous things Bart did for Krusty -- i.e., clear him of a robbery charge, reunite Krusty with his rabbi father, and save his show from cancellation with a celebrity-packed comeback special), and is more of a [[Jerkass]] than post-season 9 Homer Simpson.
** And ''still'' manages to be one of the good guys in comparison to his sidekick, Sideshow Bob, although he's [[Wicked Cultured]] and has a decent side.
** Gabbo and his puppetteer, who briefly got Krusty kicked off the air in "Krusty Gets Cancelled"; Bart produced film of Gabbo referring to the kids as "little S.O.B.s.", which [[No Such Thing
*** It didn't backfire, it actually caused a public outcry... For a day. Then Kent Brockman made the same flub while ''reporting the Gabbo story'', everyone got angry at HIM, and instantly forgot about Gaboo. In the world of the Simpsons, it's true that the [[Viewers Are Goldfish]].
* ''[[Rugrats]]'' had a rare female example: The host of a show Angelica wanted to be on turned out to hate kids and actually [[Sound Effect Bleep|swore]] about what she thought about the kids on her show when she was offstage. Angelica overhears this, and later goes on the show, then is asked what the hostess thinks of the children. [[Hilarity Ensues]].
* ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' had a parody of this when the old host of the ''Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?'' game show goes crazy after finding out his girlfriend is cheating on him. He drives them to her house and makes them memorize the day they met, the day she said she loved him. The skit ended with him crashing his car and dying.
* In ''[[The Secret Saturdays]]'', the [[Big Bad]] actually has his own TV show, of which their young [[Genre Savvy]] son Zack [[Villain
* In the [[Family Guy]] episode ''Road to Europe''. It is revealed that the characters on a show Stewie likes are Depraved Kids Show Hosts.
* Binky the Clown from ''[[Garfield and Friends]]'' qualifies, although he was the same on and off camera.
** Sidney the Dinosaur was a better example in his episode.
* In ''[[The Mask (
== Real Life ==
* Now for the often-cited [[Real Life]] example: In 1991, Pee-Wee Herman's actor, Paul Reubens, was arrested for [[Caught
▲* Now for the often-cited [[Real Life]] example: In 1991, Pee-Wee Herman's actor, Paul Reubens, was arrested for [[Caught With Your Pants Down|"lewd conduct"]] in a porn theatre, which effectively ruined his career as a kids' show host (although at that point ''[[Pee Wees Playhouse]]'' had been over for more than a year). Later, in 2002, he was charged with possession of pornography (just regular pornography, not child pornography as is often reported), though the charges were later (more or less) dropped. This is slightly subverted in that the character of Pee-Wee Herman was created for an adult audience and co-opted for children's television.
* On at least one occasion, IIRC, the mascots at Disneyland have behaved badly.
** Well they've been accused of doing so often enough.
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* Richard Bacon was fired from ''[[Blue Peter]]'' following a drug scandal. A later [[Reunion Show]]-cum-[[Panto]] featured him as the (off-screen) baddie.
** Thanks to this Bacon managed to play with his "bad-boy" image and move over to the more adult show ''[[The Big Breakfast]]'' and not fall off the face of the earth like most Blue Peter presenters.
* Not officially confirmed, but Italian singer Cristina d'Avena is said to ''hate'' children, despite having a long (since 1982) career in shows with singing children, and as singer/songwriter of cartoon themes
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14bkh18G1Y Dara Ó Briain, speaking from personal experience, claims that this is ALWAYS the case.]
* Brazilian children show's host Xuxa, before her success, acted in the film [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amor_Estranho_Amor Amor Estranho Amor] ("Love, Strange Love"), in which her ''character'' had sex with a 12-year-old boy. The film is actually an artsy film, but when the internet discovered it, they treated it as a disgusting act of child pornography. Xuxa already had a lot of haters, and her popularity kinda plummeted.
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* In January 1965 on his morning children's show, the performer [[Soupy Sales]] suggested to his young viewers that they find the wallets of their sleeping fathers and take out "some of those funny green pieces of paper with all those nice pictures of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Alexander Hamilton, and send them along to your old pal, Soupy, care of WNEW, New York.". He also said: "Hey kids, last night was New Year's Eve, and your mother and dad were out having a great time. They are probably still sleeping and what I want you to do is tiptoe in their bedroom and go in your mom's pocketbook and your dad's pants, which are probably on the floor. You'll see a lot of green pieces of paper with pictures of guys in beards. Put them in an envelope and send them to me at Soupy Sales, Channel 5,New York, New York. And you know what I'm going to send you? A post card from Puerto Rico!". The reaction from outraged parents came fast and furious, and WNEW-TV pulled Soupy Sales' program off the air by the following Monday. Anyways, Soupy Sales program resumed broadcasting two weeks later, and his program ran on WNEW for close to another two years.
** The assertion after-the-fact was that he was testing to see just how much attention parents were paying to what their kids were watching. The [[Unreliable Narrator|jury's out on whether that's the truth, though]].
* Jimmy Savile.
* Rolf Harris.
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