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If one is written in anyway, the result is a character who is treated as a bad guy by the plot, despite never actually doing anything as to justify the amount of hate that they receive from the good guys. [[Straw Man Has a Point|Any astute arguments and observations]] by this character are to be dismissed by the audience, because they are [[Obviously Evil]][[Tradesnark|™]], just as the [[Designated Hero]] is regarded as 'good' despite having no significant virtues.
 
In fact, this may only prove a character a [[Jerkass]], [[Protagonist -Centered Morality|especially in regards to the protagonist.]] This isn't a case of a deliberately over-the-top villain, it's a personification of being an ass for its own sake. That being said, there ''are'' cases [[Villainy Free Villain|where just being a jerk can qualify one for being the antagonist by itself]].
 
Alternately, it might be a character that could fall under [[Hero Antagonist]]...except, since they're an antagonist, they can't possibly be on the side of good. Keep in mind that antagonists and villains are very different things.
 
Compare and contrast [[Designated Hero]], [[Poke the Poodle]], [[Villain Ball Magnet]], and [[Villainy Free Villain]]. Also see [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not Heinous?]]. Not to be confused with [[Designated Evil]].
 
Not to be confused with [[Offstage Villainy]], which is where the bad guy did bad things...but not on screen.
 
Please note that [[Tropes Are Not Bad]], as this can sometimes be done on purpose to add more shades of grey to a story, or to show that the heroes are not completely perfect.
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== Media in General ==
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* [[Naruto (Manga)|Naruto]] is this in a scene in the third movie. After [[Bratty Half Pint|Hikaru]] wants Naruto to be his slave, he justifiably says no. In response, Hikaru hits Naruto with a toy arrow. That is when Naruto finally decides to lightly punch him. However, Sakura hears Hikaru's crying and not only punches Naruto, but ties him up and starves him until he apologizes.
* Luc displays an odd case of this in the ''[[Suikoden III]]'' Manga, where he goes to considerable effort to hide the fact that he's trying to save the world (through mass genocide, but still). When the hero finds this out, he even rants about not needing sympathy for his actions. He was a [[Jerkass]] even when he was a good guy.
* Clair Leonelli in ''[[Heat Guy J (Anime)|Heat Guy J]]''. First, he starts off as [[Kick the Dog|a puppy-kicker]] with [[Joker Immunity]], then [[What Happened to The Mouse?|inexplicably disappears for a while.]] Then, when he comes back still holding the [[Villain Ball]], another [[Designated Villain]] grabs the [[Villain Ball]], and Clair goes into an [[Angst Coma]]. When he comes out of the coma, he has a [[Heel Face Turn]] and is now an [[Anti -Hero]], and the ''real'' [[Big Bad]] (whom we, until a few episodes ago, thought was Clair) [[The Reveal|reveals himself]]. [[Adaptation Decay|In the manga, he belongs in the first category above;]] all he does is [[Kick the Dog]] [[For the Lulz|for the sake of kicking the dog]].
* ''[[Star Driver (Anime)|Star Driver]]'' has a bit of this. Yes, the Glittering Crux Brigade kidnapped the maiden to allow them to summon giants to Earth for some reason that probably involves fighting, since we never see anything else happen, but when they aren't wearing their masks, they're pretty nice guys. Even the leader of Adult Bank, President, who is a schoolgirl wife who kisses men other than her husband through the glass because her husband is never around - Openly! Like, ''in class''! - only has a massive boat to live in, not because she's uber rich and spoiled, but because she's pretty sure that {{spoiler|volcanoes will explode when they succeed, and wants to evacuate everyone off the island, so no one dies.}} After asking why else she would possibly have such a thing, both of her subordinates - who give her drinks and massages whenever she wants - simply stare at her, bewildered.
* The Computer Club President from ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' could be considered this. Yes, he cheated in the RTS game, but it was only to get back the computer that Haruhi essentially ''stole'' via some rather cruel blackmail.
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* ''[[My Immortal (Fanfic)|My Immortal]]'':
** Anyone who opposed [[Designated Hero|Ebony]].
** Dumbledore is apparently a very mean and cruel teacher who tortures Ebony for being gothic. He was rightfully angered to see her ''having sex in the middle of the forest''. He laughed at Draco being kidnapped by Voldemort, but you have to admit, [[So Bad ItsIt's Good|it was pretty hilarious.]]
** Britney. She's this and a [[Butt Monkey]]. Preps in general are treated as monsters, despite not even doing anything mean.
* Generally common in [[Harry Potter]] fics that try to portray Dumbledore as a cruel, manipulative man (as opposed to [[The Dumbledore|the benevolent, manipulative man he is in canon]]). Often times, the author cannot be bothered to figure out what Dumbledore's big plan is, resulting in him coming across as manipulating the main characters purely for the sake of manipulating them. Or at least trying to, since, invariably, despite Harry having no clue of Dumbledore's malevolent intentions for however far into the series the fic takes place, he is suddenly painfully transparent and Harry or our new [[Mary Sue]] can avoid his manipulations with ease.
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== Films -- Animated ==
* The hyenas in ''[[The Lion King (Disney)|The Lion King]]'' are clearly not on the side of the protagonists and not exactly the nicest of people. But...that's largely the fault of the heroes themselves. Given a chance to actually have something to eat, the hyenas are completely loyal until they are betrayed. Before Scar, they were essentially banished to a barren wasteland. The only thing against them is that according to Nala due to some [[Offscreen Villainy]] because let the Hyenas take over the land it's a barren wasteland like there territory was.
* Percy in ''[[Pocahontas (Disney)|Pocahontas]]'' is designated as a villain simply by being the pet of [[Big Bad|Ratcliffe]]. Although Ratcliffe is a [[Politically -Incorrect Villain|racist]], [[Final Solution|genocidal]] [[Ax Crazy|maniac]], Percy is actually a pretty decent dog. While aloof, he certainly isn't arrogant, and he doesn't attack anyone without any provocation. He just seems content with staying in the ship and enjoying his well-off, carefree life. Then, [[Jerkass|Meeko]] bursts in and steals his food for no reason other than to be a [[Troll]]. And then it all goes downhill from there.
* Vincent the bear in ''[[Over the Hedge (Film)|Over the Hedge]]''. On screen, the only thing he does is make RJ replace the food that he lost because he was stealing it. He makes a monologue about a bunch of [[Offscreen Villainy]], but without that, he's really just trying to survive.
* ''[[Megamind]]'' is this in-universe - everybody were always seeing him as nothing but trouble and his attempts to blend in and get friends backfired. His main motivation of being a villain is that everybody thinks of him as one already, [[Then Let Me Be Evil|so why not play along]]? {{spoiler|He later learns he doesn't have to be what people want him to}}.
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* ''[[Twister]]'':
** Jonas and his "evil, tornado-chaser crew". Jonas used to be a "pure" tornado chaser, then he got corporate sponsors and a fleet of [[Color Coded for Your Convenience|black]] SUVs. He also has a duplicate of the main characters' "Dorothy" system, which he rightly claims credit for building. Bill (a guy who had given up tornado chasing to get a job as a TV weatherman) even assaults Jonas while he's talking to reporters, and gets angry when Jonas snidely asks how his new gig is going. This motivates Bill to abandon his fiancee and team up with his ex-wife and her crew. Bill also looks down on Jonas because he relies on technology and not instinct in order to predict tornadoes. So, if you can't sense the weather like Bill, you're a fraud, because, apparently, the whole point of tornado chasing isn't scientific research... And at the end, Jonas gets killed by a tornado. Um...yay?
** This is made even worse because Bill and Jonas ''have the exact same goal'' - using the Dorothy system to gain valuable scientific data that could lead to better tornado warning systems that could save lives. Not only that, Jonas does not once use evil means to achieve these ends. There's no difference between Bill and Jonas ... except that Jonas is a [[Protagonist -Centered Morality|a big fat meanie to Bill]].
* High School Dean Edward R. Rooney in ''[[Ferris BuellersBueller's Day Off (Film)|Ferris Buellers Day Off]]'' is presented as a villain, even though it is his job to enforce school rules. The film makes him rather crazy about his job, resorting to breaking and entering, to make him the villain.
* The disaster film ''Meteor'' had an American general be portrayed in a bad light for objecting to Russians getting access to a top secret American command center during the height of the Cold War. [[Straw Man Has a Point]].
* Mrs Tingle in ''[[Teaching Mrs. Tingle]]'' is really the only sensible and likable character. Most of the movie involves the [[Designated Hero|jerkass protagonist]] and her friends trying to torture and murder her because she accused the protagonist of cheating when she had every reason to believe that the protagonist had, in fact, been cheating. The movie also heavily implies that Trudy, the protagonist's competitor for the stipendium, deserves to be killed [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not Heinous?|merely for being studious]].
* Dr. Jarret in ''Man's Best Friend'' is an interesting case of this. He is performing unethical & illegal research on animals (bad) and he created the genetically engineered killer dog that causes all the trouble in the movie (also bad, but keep reading). His purpose was to build the ultimate guard dog after his wife and child were killed; he figured it would be a good product to sell. He also kept Max on a strict regiment of drugs designed to keep him from going berserk and insane. When the [[Designated Hero]] steals Max from the laboratory, the police and others don't seem too interested in taking Dr. Jarret seriously, despite the fact that he has explained that his dog is a ticking time-bomb that's ready to explode in a shower of mayhem...He made the monster, but he kept it under control, and it was only due to the acts of others that it escaped and was able to kill people. And we're supposed to believe that he's bad.
* The human villains in ''The Lost World: [[Jurassic Park]]'' (the movie, not the book of the same name but a completely different plot) have this trait specifically so that their arguments can be dismissed. While they were shown to be quite ruthless when dealing with the dinosaurs, the [[Designated Hero|Designated Heroes]] were directly or indirectly responsible for every human death in the movie. The 'villains' keep going out of their way to save the protagonists' lives, while the 'heroes' continue to heckle and sabotage them. While a Tyrannosaurus is rampaging through the hunter group, the leader suddenly finds out that one of the heroes stole the bullets from his gun. They're even partly responsible for the Tyrannosaurus rampage in San Diego. The villains wouldn't have even considered bringing it to the mainland until the heroes released all of the herbivores they had captured already, forcing them to take the T-Rex to cover their losses, ''which were all caused by the heroes''.<br /><br />The film also falls headfirst into [[Straw Man Has a Point]]. The antagonists are supposed to be evil because they claim that the dinosaurs were property of the local [[Mega Corp]], when ''that's exactly what they are''; they wouldn't even exist if they hadn't been deliberately created, which also nicely shatters the protagonists' argument that they should be left alone to live naturally, nature having nothing to do with it. A clear example of the "villains" being more like jerks than actually evil people.<br /><br />A Deleted Scene would have thrown the [[Designated Villain]] trope out the window and thrown the movie into [[Grey and Gray Morality]], showing the [[Great White Hunter]] character (who never does anything immoral in the rest of the movie besides [[Crazy Awesome|wanting to hunt a T-Rex]]) defend a waitress from sexual harassment by beating the ever-loving crap out of the drunk idiots harassing her. Thus, [[Designated Villain]] happens by 'accident' by film-makers who had hoped to avoid it. The audience probably would have rooted for the [[Great White Hunter]] - much of them [[Ensemble Darkhorse|already did.]]
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* The Machines in ''[[The Matrix (Film)|The Matrix]]'' become this in the [[All There in the Manual|fluff]]. {{spoiler|It turns out that their "genocide" of humanity was ''an act of self defense'' after humanity randomly decided to become bent on destroying ''them'', unprovoked, purely out of prejudice. And this was ''after'' humans had used them as routinely abused slave labor for years.}}
* ''[[Christmas With the Kranks]]'' places the Kranks at the same level as [[A Christmas Carol|Ebenezer Scrooge]] simply because their only flaw in the movie is that they do not want to celebrate the commercialism of Christmas for one year.
* In [[Patch Adams]], anyone who expects Adams to conform is an antagonist. Adams's nonconformity includes [[Protagonist -Centered Morality|practicing medicine without a license, stealing from a hospital, and ignoring background history.]][[hottip:*:If you're wondering why [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|that last one]] is bad, {{spoiler|it causes people to die.}} No one specifically calls him out on those three, but they call him out on other things [[Straw Man Has a Point|which are also good reasons for Adams to conform]].
** Adams' roommate (played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman) is particularly bad for this. The audience is expected to hate him because he's a stick in the mud and insufferably smug, but it's clear he tries earnestly to get good grades and we can understand why he might feel jealous of Patch (who gets the highest grades in the class without studying at all). He accuses Patch of cheating on his tests, and since we never see him study (whenever he's with the other med students, he just goofs off while ''they'' try to work), it does seem suspect for Adams to have such high grades. We can also understand why having a roommate as annoying as Patch might make one a little snippy, especially when the guy disrupts your tests by cracking jokes.
 
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* For those who wonder what Clifford Simak was up to before writing ''Skirmish'', seek out an old work known as ''The Goblin Reservation''. [[Offstage Villainy]] is taken to the greatest extreme ever seen, with a single remark about rumors of atrocities combined with [[Beauty Equals Goodness|a hideous appearance]] being enough to condemn the entire species of the Wheelers as [[Always Chaotic Evil]]. [[It Got Worse|To top it off]], {{spoiler|we find out towards the end that the Wheelers were a former slave race who [[Turned Against Their Masters]], but said masters are never shown in anything other than a positive light.}}
* Before ''[[The Worm Ouroboros (Literature)|The Worm Ouroboros]]'' decided to ditch its framing device, the viewpoint character is guided around by a talking marlet, who identifies many of the main characters and pours a ton of adjectival condemnation on the villains. This is before they've done anything. Lessingham dryly concludes that "A fiery politician is my marlet", and resolves to make up his own mind on things. He and the marlet are never referred to again. As it turns out, the villains aren't much different from the heroes and certainly don't deserve titles like "the children of night everlasting". This is an odd example because the author seems to quite like them.
* Deliberately invoked in ''[[Typewriter in The Sky (Literature)|Typewriter in The Sky]]'', [[L Ron Hubbard]]'s [[Deconstruction]] of swashbucklers. The protagonist of the story is the antagonist of the [[Show Within a Show|story-within-a-story]], but does his best to subvert the author's wishes. {{spoiler|Even the editor can't tell who's supposed to be the good guy, so he [[Executive Meddling|forces a bit of rewriting]] and, among other things, has the newly revisioned baddie attempt [[I Have You Now, My Pretty]] on the heroine.}}
* ''[[Twilight (Literature)|Twilight]]'':
** Technically, she's not a villain, but Leah is considered to be a bitter, shrewish harpy who is usually ignored and dumped on. Turns out, the reason she's bitter is because her fiance was essentially brainwashed into loving her cousin and everyone blames her for being upset over this all while she has to listen to her former fiance's thoughts on his True Love for her cousin. Edward threatens to kick her over a river because she yells at Bella for stringing Jacob (who she sees as a friend later) along. Add in the fact that she is one of the few characters who actively tries to better herself and move on after losing a significant other (and her father ''dies'' after seeing her shape-shift), it's kind of hard to see why readers are supposed to dislike her.
** This happens ''a lot'' in the ''[[Twilight (Literature)|Twilight]]'' series, in no small part thanks to Meyer's tendency to [[Show, Don't Tell|tell, rather than show]] what's going on in the narrative. For example, at one point in the first novel, Edward calls Mike Newton "vile" because...um...he's been shown as being nothing but nice? Bella's internal monologue and opinion of other people is often entirely at odds with what is going on around her, and every male except for Edward and Jacob is baselessly demonized at some point.
** Particularly jarring is Bella's view on her father. In every other series, this might be brushed aside because she'd be considered an [[Unreliable Narrator]] or it would be normal teenager behaviour, but in this case, we are supposed to see Charlie as the mean old guy who grounds Bella and just doesn't understand how much she needs Edward. This is after Bella starting to distance him immediately after she started dating Edward, ran away from home because she 'broke up' with him, was stalked by him across states, was severely injured in very suspicious fashions, after which she immediately decided to get back to Edward's side, was abandoned by Edward in the woods, became catatonic and suicidal, ran away from home AGAIN, to a different country, because Edward threatened suicide on her.
** Even people Bella allegedly gets along with act as Designated Villains if they're not vampires. Jessica, one of the first friends Bella made, is regularly considered to be a [[False Friend]] in Bella's mental commentary; Jessica, who was nothing but nice to Bella when they first met, instantly and repeatedly forgave Bella blowing her off again and again for the first supernatural pretty boy to waltz by, and generally appears to like Bella except during her blatantly insane phase in ''New Moon'', despite Bella's ceaselessly condescending view of her. It never ''once'' occurs to Bella that any distance that develops between her and Jessica is due to Bella being a complete parasite that only acts friendly to Jessica when she wants something from her; Bella's first flirtations with deliberately endangering herself to hallucinate about Edward's voice ''also put Jessica in danger'', and Bella is resentful and offended when Jessica starts keeping her distance for the rest of the book!
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* In ''[[Stargate Atlantis (TV)|Stargate Atlantis]]'', Bates, Kavanaugh, and Ellis tend to end up in this role. [[Straw Man Has a Point|They usually have legitimate concerns or complaints]], but because these are against the main cast of characters (Bates seeing Teyla as a security risk, Kavanaugh complaining to Weir about Weir degrading him in public, Ellis wanting McKay to cut the exposition and get to the point), the characters are presented as reactionary jerkasses. There is also a trend of portraying Kavanaugh, in his few appearances, as a coward, even though, every time, he is up against a situation in which his fear is perfectly understandable.
* In ''[[The Office]]'':
** Charles was brought in to act as a buffer between [[Pointy -Haired Boss|Michael Scott]] and upper management, which was a valid action given that Michael really should have been fired for lying about a risky sales scheme he engaged in (or kidnapping a pizza-boy, or any number of others). When Michael quit, Charles took his place and took a hard line with the office, cutting a number of activities to save money and asking the employees to actually sit down and do their work.
** This can also be the case for the conflict between Andy and Dwight: both were trying to get each other fired, but we're supposed to side with Dwight.
** The UK version of ''The Office'' features this trope in regards to Neil Godwin (Brent's boss) who, according to [[Word of God]], we are not supposed to like. His crimes are neatly summed up in [[The Other Wiki]] as "He is dismissive towards David's dog and shared a joke with Chris Finch at the expense of David's Christmas party date, Carol." That Christmas Party doesn't happen until the very last episode.
* ''[[I CarlyICarly (TV)|I Carly]]'':
** Nevel starts out this way by [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not Heinous?|trying to steal a kiss]] from Carly (which is apparently pretty bad if you’re not into [[Gonk]] nerds). Then, he [[Took a Level In Jerkass|unbecame this trope]] when he decided that revenge was in order.
** Even then, he comes across as more of a [[Jerkass]] than a true villain
** "i Meet [[Fred]]": Because Freddie didn't like Fred's videos, Lucas Cruikshank decides to stop making them. This causes everyone in school to ostracize him, he gets kicked out of every club he was in, and his own relatives start to hate him. But then in turns out that it was all a publicity stunt by Cruikshank. Even after it turns out he was lying, [[Smug Snake|he still makes Freddie apologize and say his videos are funny]]. While he apologizes, he still refuses to say he likes his videos. This leads to [[The Scrappy|Sam]] [[Kick the Dog|beating]] [[The Woobie|Freddie]] [[Designated Hero|and knock him out of a treehouse]]. Dear, [[Dan Schneider]]: If you want us to root for your protagonists, try making them likable first.
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*** Sterling's case is further hurt by one scene in which as a cruel joke, the bookworm's wife asks him to read poetry from one of his books to her; he eagerly obliges, only to find that she has drawn lines over the text on every page. Is it any wonder he prefers books to people?
* ''[[Legend of the Seeker]]'':
** In the episode "Broken", Cara is on trial for the atrocities she committed as a Mord'Sith. To her defense, it is revealed that Mord'Sith are actually abducted as young girls, [[Break the Cutie|then horribly tortured and brainwashed]] [[Being Tortured Makes You Evil|until they become heartless killing machines]]. They were unwilling victims of the D'Haran more than anything else. Cara is ultimately forgiven for this reason. However, during the trial, they arrest another Mord'Sith hiding in the assistance: Cara's mentor, the one who abducted and trained her. They then proceed to condemn this woman to what is described as [[Cold -Blooded Torture|the most painful death in existence]]. [[Values Dissonance|Everybody seems oblivious that, as a Mord'Sith, this woman endured the same fate as Cara, and so is every bit as much of a victim...]] (It could be argued that Cara was forgiven because she was a victim AND repented, while the other Mord'Sith did not repent and would have gone on killing. This does not make the Mord'Sith any less of a Designated Villain, but the death of Cara's mentor is at least somewhat justified.)
** Cara also helped overthrow the evil overlord who was in charge of the brainwashing. So, it could be argued that she had broken her brainwashing and was already helping people without anyone forcing her to. Cara was also happy for them to kill her.
* Possibly used in ''[[Survivor (TV)|Survivor]]: Heroes vs. Villains'', where people like Sandra and Coach could hardly be considered villains ([[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] when Jeff asks if anyone thinks they were put on the wrong team); and Rob, who (shockingly) played the game more heroically than most of the Heroes. The episode where {{spoiler|he gets voted off}} is even titled "I guess I'm not really a good villain". Also subverted with Parvarti and Russel, who said "what did I do that was so bad?" and ended up being the primary antagonists season after season.
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* ''[[Merlin (TV)|Merlin]]'':
** Mordred, who, in this version, is played by a child. We're supposed to view Mordred as a [[Creepy Child]] because the show plays ominous music over extreme close-ups of his large blue eyes, but all that's played out on screen is a kid who's been hunted, persecuted, and had everyone he's ever loved killed by the people who are generally considered "the good team". He uses his magical powers to kill a group of knights advancing on him with swords drawn, clearly preparing to kill him - this was apparently meant to prove to the audience that he's evil incarnate, even though the good guys make self-defensive kills all the time.
** Morgana definitely counts. What she has done is no worse than what Merlin has done to his own kind, including her. Yet he is viewed as the hero and she the villain. Like Mordred, at first she is only a villain because Merlin believed the dragon when he said she was. All she did was fall victim to Morgause's plans, but was called evil for it. She did bad things of her own will in series 3, but [[Self -Fulfilling Prophecy|probably wouldn't have if she hadn't been declared evil in the first place]].
** Morgause as well. What exactly has this woman done besides try to expose Uther's lies to Arthur and then win back what she thinks rightfully belongs to her half-sister? In one episode, she puts the entire castle to sleep in order to assassinate Uther and claim Morgana without any innocent lives being lost - the writers must have realized that this put her in ''too''' good a light, and later [[Word of God|stated]] that the sleeping spell would have eventually proved fatal for everyone were it not broken in time.
* Morgan from ''[[Camelot (TV)|Camelot]]'' starts out this way. Sure, the second thing she does is kill her father -- but that seems to be over a legitimate grudge, and the ''first'' thing she does is try to forgive him for it; it's only when he hits her in the face and tells her "[[I Have No Son|I have no daughter]]" that she moves into murder mode. After that, she spends several episodes trying to claim her throne from what, so far as she can see, is a pretender plucked out of thin air by a manipulative sorcerer. And her methods for winning the throne? Well, after an alliance with the local warlord (a matter of necessity in the absence of an army of her own) falls through, she sets to work bringing justice to the kingdom, trying to demonstrate to the people that she's a better choice for ruler than Merlin's puppet.
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* ''[[Ron Killings]]'':
** R-Truth's heel turn. He won a match to earn a shot at the WWE title. Next week, [[John Morrison]] convinced Truth to put his opportunity for the title on the line in a match against him. Morrison won the match and Truth attacked him afterwards, thus turning heel. So, apparently, in WWE logic, he's a bad guy when Morrison is the one who manipulated him into giving up his title shot.
** Lighting a cigarette to blow smoke in Morrison's face was going too far, [[Evil Is Petty|because it's illegal in a public building]], [[Think of the Children]]! [[Politically -Incorrect Villain|The next week on Raw, Truth fell into more typical villainy.]]
** Truth wasn't manipulated. Morrison tried to manipulate him but it backfired. Ultimately, Truth left it up to the audience who cheered at the idea of him and Morrison having a rematch. The fact of the matter is that him losing his title shot was his own fault and he was a sore loser about it. The heel turn could've been handled better, but WWE immediately [[Flanderization|used him being a sore loser to show how much of an evil person he is]].
* In [[TNA]], [[Girl Posse|The Beautiful People]] had a match where, on their way to the ring, they reunited with founding member Angelina Love. At the end of their match, Angelina joins them in the ring to celebrate, only for her to attack them (Leaving BFF Velvet Sky in tears). Why did she turn on them? Because she was replaced with Lacey Von Erich (done because [[Real Life Writes the Plot|she was having issues with her Visa that kept her from returning to the states]]). Yet the Beautiful People are seen as the bad guys for wanting revenge against a cheap attack by someone who they thought was their friend.
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* A [[Double Subversion]] happens in ''[[Fools]]''. Count Yousekevitch is set up to be the villain by the other characters and is presented in a ridiculous "bad guy" outfit. His only real crime is trying to marry a pretty girl. Later, he even lampshades this. He then seemingly has a [[Pet the Dog]] moment...only to turn it into a [[Kick the Dog]] and prove himself to be just as bad as everyone else said.
* Ellen in ''[[Miss Saigon]]'' is often perceived as this by fans of the show, as she is seen as the obstacle to Kim and Chris reuniting.
* The Bad Baronets of Gilbert and Sullivan's ''Ruddigore'' are obligated by a family curse to commit one evil deed each day, or else die in agony. The reigning Baronet, Sir Despard Murgatroyd, is a [[Punch Clock Villain]], who gets his daily crime over early in the day and does good afterwards. After the hero is unmasked as Despard's elder brother, Sir Ruthven Murgatroyd, he emerges from his [[Face Heel Turn]] as a [[Harmless Villain]], who [[Poke the Poodle|commits misdemeanors so small]] that the ghosts of his ancestors rise up to torment him until he agrees to prove that he can do [[I Have You Now, My Pretty|something more nefarious]].
* ''[[A Dolls House (Theatre)|A Dolls House]]'':
** Magnificently subverted in Ibsen's story with Nils Krogstad, who is repeatedly demonized as an unpleasant and weak [[Kick the Dog|dog kicker]], but is, upon closer inspection, just trying to secure his job so he can feed his children, and is eventually talked into a total [[Heel Face Turn]]. The ''real'' villain turns out to be [[Knight in Shining Armor]] Torvald Helmer.
** Torvald's crimes include wanting to have a stable home, not wanting the family name slandered (it's ~1890), and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|wanting his wife to ease off the cookies]]. He'd be perfectly fine if he hadn't been such an [[Ungrateful Bastard]] to Krogstad in the first place...
* The Giantess in ''[[Into the Woods]]''. Her only real crime is not being human. She treated Jack kindly and protected him from her husband, and, in return, he robs her and kills her husband. If she was a human, Jack (who admits that he did it) would have been hauled off to jail, if not the chopping block. All the deaths in the second half are either accidents (because she can't see without her glasses) or caused by humans. There is even a scene in the second act deconstructing this, and discussing why she deserves to live less than Jack does. Eventually, none of them can tell who is supposed to be the hero anymore.
* ''[[Cyrano De Bergerac]]'': subverted by Colonel De Guiche [[In Universe]]. The audience of the play identify him as the villain because he wants to bully Roxane into being [[The Mistress]], but the Gascon Cadets who serve under him never call him out on this: they think he is the villain merely because he doesn’t want to be an [[Idiot Hero]], has [[Ambition Is Evil|villainous motivations]], and [[Screw the Rules, I Have Connections|prefers to thrive by his connections]] in the [[Deadly Decadent Court]]...[[Murder Arson and Jaywalking|and he dresses like]] [[The Dandy]]. In summation, De Guiche is the villain because he is [[No True Scotsman|No True Gascon]]. Observe that not one of the cadets even complain when De Guiche informs them of the [[Last Stand]].
 
 
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* [[Dissidia Final Fantasy|Dissidia Duodecim]] reveals through Chaos backstory that {{spoiler|he really isn't evil at all—he's just doing what Garland, Cid, Cosmos and Shinryu have told him to do, and as such this is an Invoked Trope. It just happens he looks like a monstrous demon, and most of the warriors he calls to serve him are villainous.}}
* ''[[Touhou (Video Game)|Touhou]]'' runs on this:
** The [[Loads and Loads of Characters|massive]], [[Chaotic Neutral|borderline psychotic]] cast very eager to pulverize ([[Non -Lethal KO|non-lethally]], granted) each other for the most flimsy of reasons. While there are those that don't invoke this, nearly all of the [[Excuse Plot|Excuse Plots]] are based on one of the two [[Designated Hero|Designated Heroes]] being annoyed and endeavoring to beat up the person responsible, regardless of what they're actually doing. ''Undefined Fantastic Object'' is the worst by an enormous margin: the antagonists were merely attempting to release their friend from her ''millennium'' of imprisonment, who is herself [[The Messiah|almost saintly]], but no, they're [[Youkai]] and therefore must be stopped.
** ''Undefined Fantastic Object'' offers a rare encounter: in one route, at least, Marisa and Byakuren seem to hit it off on the subject of magic use, end-up sidelined by a painfully short theological disconnect ("'youkai' protected from humans" versus "humans protected from 'youkai'"), and it's the last boss who demands the fight. Marisa might have been rude (as always) but Byakuren didn't even try hard.
** [[Alternate Character Interpretation|Alternatively]], given events in ''Silent Sinner In Blue'', where {{spoiler|Reimu and Marisa assist Yukari in her invasion of the Moon for [[For the Evulz|no apparent reason]] and were soundly beaten}}, it's possible that Reimu and Marisa were meant to be [[Villain Protagonist|villain protagonists]] for the duration of UFO in the same vein [[Heel Face Turn|previous bosses became player characters]].
** It's [[Invoked Trope]] in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'', where Tenshi designated herself as the villain [[For the Lulz|because she was bored]].
* ''[[Yggdra Union]]'':
** Played with, where the heroes assume that Gulcasa and his army must be evil because they conquered Fantasinia and killed King Ordene. They eventually realize--while invading Gulcasa's country--that they are wrong, but continue their invasion (and in doing so, wipe out a third of Bronquia's able-bodied population ''in this campaign alone'') because they think it's too late to turn back. The Royal Army spends the rest of this part of the game slaughtering civilian militias and the remnants of the Imperial Army, who insist that protagonist, Yggdra, will have to [[Go Through Me|go through them]] if she wants to kill Gulcasa. There's also some vague nonsense about Bronquia trying to bring about [[The End of the World As We Know It]] by resurrecting an ancient demon, but from the way Gulcasa and his last few generals talk about this planned resurrection, it was actually supposed to be their very last resort in case Fantasinia retaliated by invading them. [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|Welp.]]
** Following this, we also have [[Jerkass Woobie|Nessiah]], who is actually quite finished causing trouble throughout the world by the time you find him, and whose current major offense is that he's [[Revenge Before Reason|being a vindictive little shit]].<ref>He and Gulcasa, who you have just killed at this point, were ''[[Blaze Union|very]] [[Official Couple|close]].'' Nessiah congratulates you on your victory by making a [[People Puppet]] of your recently deceased friend, Kylier, and forcing you to fight her. (Incidentally, Kylier herself [[Sympathy for The Devil|actually says outright that she doesn't hold it against him.]])</ref> At this point of the game, all he wants to do is {{spoiler|leave the world of Ancardia and finally get revenge on Asgard for the wrongs done to him--and Asgard is run by the [[Bigger Bad]] of the series and Nessiah's people are subject to horrific levels of [[Fantastic Racism]] even when they're ''not'' marching out of step}}. If he succeeded, the world would be a much better place; if he died trying, well, it wouldn't be any skin off the Royal Army's nose; either way he wouldn't be your problem any longer. Instead, the Royal Army insists that he must be killed in order to prevent any possible negative consequences for the world of Ancardia.
* Daleth from ''[[Shin Megami Tensei II]]'' is a literal example. {{spoiler|He was created by the Center to be the anti-Messiah so the main character can defeat him and grow more popular.}}
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** They arrested Faith's sister after ''framing her in the first place''. Also, they killed people who protested that the city was becoming totalitarian, including the protagonist's mother.
* Most of the Portrait Ghosts in ''[[Luigis Mansion (Video Game)|Luigi's Mansion]]'' don't even attack, and seem fairly content with just hanging around the mansion.
* While this is debatable, in ''[[Blaz Blue]]'', the NOL is straddling this line. For the most part, the organization is filled with lots and lots of [[Punch Clock Villain|Punch Clock Villains]], who were doing their jobs for their paycheck, and they truly believed in their goal in creating a peaceful world free of conflicts. However, because Ragna mainly opposes them and they employ several [[Complete Monster]] like Hazama and Relius, combined with the fact that they are mainly composed of rich people and make up some dictatorship rule ([[Well -Intentioned Extremist|even if it's for preventing total chaos]]), it becomes easy to paint them as a tyrannical group of villains or a merciless [[The Empire|Empire]] type organization.
* Cao Cao and the Wei forces in ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'', in keeping with his characterization from ''[[Romance of the Three Kingdoms (Literature)|Romance of the Three Kingdoms]]''. The game runs on this. No matter who you play as, the other 2 kingdoms (and minor forces) tend to be painted as the bad guys (which makes sense, since they're trying to unite china under their rule too), so it's a conflict of interest. Except [[Complete Monster|Dong Zhuo]] and, to a lesser extent, [[Chronic Backstabbing Disorder|Lu Bu]].
* Played with in ''[[Star Ocean Till the End of Time]]''. During the search for Amelia, you run into Rodger, and then run into a bandit leader. He was willing to ignore you and go about his way, but the party members kept saying he looked 'evil'. The only reason you fight him is because they wouldn't stop saying that and the bandit snapped.
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* Simply going by what the players see, the [[The Empire|UED]] in ''Starcraft: Brood War'' turn into this. They don't come off as particularly evil when you're playing as them in the Terran campaign, and many players were glad that you force Mengsk off his throne playing as them. Yet in the Zerg campaign you find [[The Hero|Jim Raynor]], who loathes Mengsk with passion, and the Protoss, who the UED barely have any contact with, helping Kerrigan try push them out when she ultimately proves to be the worse of two evils.
* In ''[[X (Video Game)|X3: Albion Prelude]]'', the Terrans are evil for {{spoiler|demanding justice for a terrorist committing an act of ''genocide'' purely out of racism.}}
* [[Designated Hero|Hawke]] can become this to Inquisitor Cassandra Pentagon in [[Dragon Age II (Video Game)|Dragon Age II]]. No matter how nobly Hawke acts throughout the game, Cassandra will still be certain that he is the culprit she is looking for. The game being a deconstruction of the [[Big Bad]], she is told multiple times that there is no one at heart to blame. {{spoiler|Although [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|Anders]] might count, given the events of Act III}}
 
 
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== Western Animation ==
* In ''[[Codename Kids Next Door (Animation)|Codename Kids Next Door]],'':
** Secret groups of children are locked in war with teenagers and adults. Yet aging inevitably happens, so to prevent former KND agents who have aged past 13 from knowing KND secrets, they are supposed to willingly subject themselves to [[Laser -Guided Amnesia]], thus becoming clueless and hopefully harmless. Anyone who does not to do this turns evil at that very second, a type of evil that includes insults and fighting dirty. There are undercover exceptions but this is usually the rule. In the KND 'verse, [[Growing Up Sucks|puberty makes you evil.]] This is explicitly the case. While not all adults are evil, ''all'' their enemies are adults, and kids are mostly good. (There are exceptions on both sides.) The kid's parents are good, but perhaps that's because none of them were agents (that we know), and thus not subject to [[The Dark Side]] tempting them.
** {{spoiler|Numbah 86's father is Mr. Boss}}. Unusual because he loves his own child, but is one of the greatest and oldest enemies of the present KND and is the leader of some of the lesser villains.
** Some villains don't even display malice toward the KND after their introductory episodes. The holding of events like villain barbecues and award ceremonies seems to indicate that fighting the KND is a hobby as well as a crusade.
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* A great many cartoons feature a slow-witted, loyal dog trying to defend some valuable property from a thief. We're supposed to take the thief's side. Probably the most obvious example is [[Chilly Willy]], though ''[[Underdog (Animation)|Underdog]]'''s Klondike Kat also qualifies.
* A possible deconstruction of this trope: in the pilot episode of ''[[Justice League]]'', an American Senator has a proposal to rid the world of nuclear weapons by having Superman work round-the-clock to dismantle the nukes of every country on Earth (it's implied that all the countries agreed to this). While he's outlining the proposal, an angry American General stands up and declares that he shouldn't do it because "Those weapons are our only defense against aggression!" (In this continuity, the Earth had just barely escaped an alien invasion by [[Darkseid]]...and a [[Brainwashed and Crazy]] [[Superman (Comic Book)|Superman]] as well...only a few years earlier) The American general is accused of warmongering and shamed into silence and the nuclear disarmament begins. Then, after all the nukes in the world are disarmed, it turns out that the Senator was actually an evil alien in disguise and the disarmament plan he proposed was intended to keep the nations of Earth from destroying the alien ships that were about to invade. Oops. Guess you should have listened to the warmongering American General in the first place, eh? <ref>The funniest part of that episode is that when the invasion began, the Senator (who hadn't yet been revealed as an alien) appeared on television and announced that "no one could have predicted this would happen". Well, no one except for, um, the American General who said those nukes were, quote, "our only defense against aggression".</ref> This is clearly [[Take That|satirizing]] the plot of ''[[Superman IV]].''
* In the ''[[Thundercats 2011 (Western Animation)|ThunderCats (2011)]]'' episode "The Duelist and the Drifter," [[Master Swordsman]] the Duelist appears guilty of nothing more than challenging swordsmen to duels for their swords and winning, but is set up as a villain to [[Kid Hero]] Lion-O, who foolishly takes up his challenge unaware of his rep. While the Duelist does eventually prove to be less-than-honorable--he insists that Lion-O [[Duel to The Death]] and attempts to kill him after Lion-O wins--there's no evidence of wrongdoing before that, apart from goading Lion-O by implying his dead father [[Nobody Calls Me Chicken|was a coward]], and some unadvertised deck-stacking through the use [[Dual -Wielding|of two blades to Lion-O's one]]. After all, he [[Spell My Name With a "The"|introduced himself as]] "the Duelist". It's not his fault that Lion-O failed to pick up on the [[Punny Name|homonymic pun]].
** He is, however, stated to be prideful and obsessed with winning. It's implied he may have pulled similar tricks before.
* The Urpneys of ''[[The Dreamstone]]'', who are essentially [[Slave Mook|Slave Mooks]] to the far more malicious Zordrak, ordered into stealing the titular stone with threat of [[Cool and Unusual Punishment]] or death if they fail. The heroes are generally apathetic to this situation and have no problem punishing them equally anytime they invade the Land Of Dreams (even using somewhat greyer solutions such as [[Heel Face Brainwashing]] or placing them in certain death situations, on a few occasions). Add to that their highly affable demeanor and camaraderie, and the Urpneys really linger as genuine antagonists.
* [[Playing With a Trope|Played with]] in ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'' with Iron Will, who runs a legitimate business in [[Grew a Spine|assertiveness training]]. However, [[Shrinking Violet|Fluttershy]] takes his lessons too far and [[Took a Level In Jerkass|pretty much became a bitch.]] While her friends choose to blame Iron Will, Fluttershy instead takes responsibility for her actions. While Iron Will still sort of acts as the antagonist in the final scene, he's never really shown as in the wrong, just rude. {{spoiler|And simply accepts that Fluttershy doesn't want to pay.}}
* ''[[The Simpsons (Animation)|The Simpsons]]'': Mr. Burns shows some shades of this in "The Old Man and the Lisa". While attaching millions of six-pack holders together into a net which he used to catch tons of sea life, in order to make animal slurry is bad action, Mr. Burns wasn't evil in that episode as said by Lisa. Mr. Burns ''didn't know'' that he was doing something that is considered wrong and genuinly believed that was a step in recycling. He didn't even think it was an "ends justify the means" situation, but rather, he wholeheartedly thought that the means were an act of good. Even if it is an evil act, that didn't make Burns himself evil in that situation. It made him misguided at worst and he came as [[Anti -Villain]] [[Knight Templar]] kind of character, but instead we are supposed to think that he was a [[Complete Monster]] and we should have sided with Lisa, who told him that he was even more evil when he tried to be good. And Lisa later tored up the check Mr. Burns gave to her, which he gave to honor the agreement of giving Lisa ten percent of the winnings they made together, yet we should see as bribe. Mr. Burns in that episode was a ''saint'', unlike episodes like "Curse of Flying Hellfish" and the "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" two-parter, where he was really evil.
** Homer in "Homer's Enemy". [[Word of God]] said their goal was to show that a real person could not survive in the show, [[Broken Aesop|but they did it by making Homer]] [[Took a Level In Jerkass|look worse]] [[Flanderization|than he really was]] in order to make [[Only Sane Man|Frank Grimes]] look better.
 
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