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* No [[Real Life]] examples, including [[Executive Meddling]]. That is just asking for trouble.

* No ASSCAPS, no bold, and no italics unless it's the title of a work. We are not yelling the DMoSs out loud.

* ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'':

** Episode 2 (Chronologically) of Haruhi Suzumiya. The SOS Brigade needs a computer, so what does Haruhi do? She forces the president of the Computer Club on Mikuru's breast and takes a photo. She threatens to tell everyone that it was a gang rape. Want to know the worst part? [[Karma Houdini|Haruhi got away with it]]. I officially stopped watching the series after that. I don't care if [[It Was His Sled|Haruhi is god]], someone should have smacked her across the face (Kyon actually could have, but nope, he was too busy being a tool. It's worse in the light novel: he was the one taking the photos.)

* In ''[[Bleach]]'', while Starrk's end was disappointingly sudden, he's technically second to {{spoiler|"0 Espada" Yammy Rialgo}}. That reveal is in an of itself a Dethroning Moment of Suck for this series- I thought the spoiler with it was a joke, especially since {{spoiler|Yammy}} had seemed quite weak and incompetent until then and {{spoiler|the Espada ranks go from 1 to 10}}.

** Ulquiorra's battle with Ichigo, which had huge amounts of hype for practically the whole arc with his parallels to Byakuya driving it up more. And after waiting ages after start for the fight to really begin, it managed to somehow become the single most shining example of everything that is wrong with Bleach fights since the SS arc began. Right after Ulquiorra releases it begins a complete beatdown, followed with an expected but still incredibly annoying [[Ass Pull|Plotkai]] in order for everything to be turned COMPLETELY around, and now it's Ulquiorra getting his ass kicked. This even after he'd released again, effectively shooting any semblance of making an accurate powerscale during that battle to hell. Worse still, it even added in DBZ style energy clashes, which effectively made it rank second in the worst overhyped battles I've ever seen. And don't even get me started on that [[Anticlimax|ending]]. Suffice to say there's a reason there are so many [[Wall Banger]] examples made of this entire fight, and practically the entire ending, is a pretty damn good clue why.

** I'm not 100% sure where to put the precise moment, but for now, I'll put it when Yamamoto's powers got sealed by Wonderweiss. At that moment, I realized that the series has become nothing more than "shocking" plot twists, Aizen had become a [[Villain Sue]] to the point that he doesn't even need the freaking hygoukou (however the fuck that's spelled), the Espada (all of them!) were massively over-hyped, and that Ichigo is somehow expected to win against Aizen, despite the fact that Yamamoto's raw power, Urahara's intelligence, and even a Urahara/Yoruichi/Isshin team isn't able to bring him down.

** The aftermath of the fight against Aizen when it finally ends. The only permanent injury the good guys suffered (besides Ichigo losing his shinigami powers, but I have a feeling he'll get them back) is Yamamoto, who's missing an arm, and even he's walking around as if he lost nothing (keep in mind that this is a day after the fight). And Hiyori got sliced in half and they can completely heal her, yet they can't bring back Yamamoto's arm? This is never explained. Also, we never even got to see the rest of Kenpachi and Byakuya's fight against Yammy. We're just told that it was easy.

*** The last five minutes of the last TV Episode retroactively piss all over the point of the show (which was supposed to be about hope of some sort, right?), and manages to [[Up to Eleven]] (fitting, given the show) in subverting it. First off, Nia dies, even after that was a perfectly good chance to save her but it wasn't taken for some bullshit reason. Boo. And then the [[Distant Finale]] manages to make everyone (save Viral, Boota and Leeron, though the first is justified) look like they just let themselves go and they aged horribly (Rossiu and Simon pretty much lost all their good looks in their middle age), Yoko got it even worse (and her face isn't even shown, mostly because it most likely probably looks like her badly aged figure, and the dark, dreary colors in most of the scenes [[Sarcasm Mode|really give one a feeling of hope.]] As if one's gut needs more punches, Viral has a wife (but he can't have kids and he'll outlive her, which is just cruel given his circumstances), and Simon is essentially robbed of one final chance to be awesome and pretty much admits he's useless. And, as the cherry on top, the above could've been cut and the show ended as Simon was walking into the distance after the wedding, and the hope and optimism would've been retained, but some jackass added five minutes of the deplorable crap outlined above, and it pretty much retroactively poisoned all the awesome I watched in the last 27 episodes.

* Despite being a mostly excellent show (in this tropette's humble opinion), the penultimate episode of ''[[Overman King Gainer]]'' contains a very infuriating moment - when {{spoiler|[[Eldritch Abomination|the Overdevil]] possesses [[The Hero|Gainer]] and [[Ninja|Gauli]], their respective love interests [[Plucky Girl|Sara]] and [[Cool Big Sis|Adette]] both try to make them snap out of it through a [[True Love's Kiss]]...}} but it turns out, {{spoiler|only Adette manages to, while Sara fails and gets possessed as well}}. Now, {{spoiler|the common [[Hand Wave]] is that Gainer and Sara had gotten distant, and that's why Sara's kiss didn't work on him...}} but then, [[Fridge Logic]] kicks in: {{spoiler|Adette and Gauli [[Strangled by the Red String|barely had any interaction]] before declaring their love to each other, and furthermore, only 2-3 episodes before, Gainer and Sara had had a [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] / [[Ship Tease]] moment together in King Gainer's cockpit}}. So, exactly, why are we supposed to believe that {{spoiler|Adette and Gauli have a stronger, more significant connection}}? The whole thing felt like it was only done for the sake of cheap drama, and to make sure the series lasted another episode ({{spoiler|because when Gainer came back to his senses, the Overdevil got [[Curb Stomp Battle|Curb Stomped]]}})...

** For me, it was {{spoiler|Greed's 2nd death}} in the manga. It just felt like nothing more than a major [[Ass Pull]], especially since {{spoiler|Greed}} had just gotten a major dose of [[Character Development]] in the previous chapter when he stated he wanted {{spoiler|friends above anything else}}. Oh, and just to rub salt in the proverbial wounds, they let Pride live...but use the flimsy excuse of "Amnesia". Why couldn't Arakawa just pull a [[Scanners]] and make it ambiguous as to whether or not {{spoiler|Greed was still inside Ling}} at the end instead of killing him off?

*** I'm just going to say I absolutely agree with you. Those were both definite [[Ass Pull]] moments. However, since the series was basically done at that point, it didn't ruin the series. But {{spoiler|the Second Greed/Greedling}} was my favorite character at the time (and still is), so I'm a bit miffed with Arakawa for that one.

* Manwiththeplan: The [[Grand Finale]] of [[Digimon Xros Wars: The Young Hunters Leaping Through Time]] is worse than the ending of ''02'' and the Royal Knights arc of ''Frontier'' put together. {{spoiler|It turns out that all the past Digimon heroes coming together was overglorified [[Fan Service]] for the anniversary of the franchise, since they're all rendered useless by the final battle. Taiki, the hero of the past ''Xros Wars'' seasons, gets knocked out by a cheap shot from Ryouma and Astamon once Ryouma reveals he's working for Quartzmon, so he gives his goggles to [[Creator's Pet]] extraordianaire Tagiru, in order for him to take his place. Then Astamon is revealed to have been Quartzmon all along, something that was barely foreshadowed and causes Ryouma to make a [[Heel Face Turn]] because he realizes Quartzmon was using him all along. (Uhh, weren't you concioussly choosing to help Quartzmon anyway, Ryouma? Shouldn't your partner digimon being Quartzmon all along make things more convieniant?) The past heroes then all give their power to Tagiru so he fights the final battle wih Quartzmon alone. It gets to the point where Quartzmon has Xrossed himself with the entire earth and has absorbed the souls of every living thing, so it's up to Tagiru to save the universe on his own, making him an outstanding example of a [[God Mode Sue]] and [[Black Hole Sue]]. And his motivation in all this? "Defeating and hunting Quartzmon will make him a true superstar?" WHAT ABOUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS, LOVED ONES, AND THE WHOLE WORLD YOU SELFISH LITTLE SHIT? And after Quartzmon is defeated, the series ends abrubtly with no true sense of closure and a few things left hanging too!}} So basically, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]] in order to show off this flat, unlikable character reminiscent of a self-insert fanfic [[Mary Sue]], and secured ''Young Hunters'' place as the worst [[Digimon]] series ever.

* ''[[Futakoi Alternative]]'' is a pretty good show that starts as an [[Crazy Awesome|over-the-top]] [[Rule of Cool|action]]-[[Rule of Funny|comedy]], [[Genre Shift|quickly drops the action]], [[Rule of Drama|then shifts to character drama]]. Surprisingly, it somehow manages to do all of this very well. And then the end of episode 10 pretty much ruins the show. The preceding episodes are intensely dramatic, melancholic, and realistic, with decreasing amounts of comedy. The end of episode 10 marks the reversion of the show to action-comedy, and it comes literally out of nowhere. This is [[Mood Whiplash]] at its finest; the dark nature of the preceding story arc makes the over-the-top-ridiculous action seem [[Wall Banger|very, very out-of-place]], while the over-the-top-ridiculous action makes the dark, realistic drama (which at this point still needs to be fully resolved) [[Narm|impossible to take seriously]].

** I concur. The Island/Africa arc is genuinely terrible, but those three episodes were the worst. [[Canon Discontinuity|They're even disregarded when the show gets back on its feet again.]] And yes, the way they destroyed Nadia's character was absolutely unforgiveable; they also did quite a bit of damage to her in the island arc by having her be psychotic and idiotic. (Stealing food from her friends? Smashing cans with boulders? Kissing Jean while he's stoned and expecting him to remember it? HELLO! This is SO not like Nadia's character in the first 22 episodes!) [[Word of God|It's no wonder Anno disowned ten of these twelve episodes.]]

** The worst part, IMO, is in episode 23 when Nadia said Grandis, Hanson and Sanson are evil and deserved disappear in the sky in episode 21. WHAT. No only that [[Out of Character]] for Nadia since she was friendly with Grandis in many episodes, but at this point of the series they did more heroic things than Nadia.

* Don't get me wrong, I love [[FUNimation]]'s [[Gag Dub]] of ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' and I [[Gushing About Shows You Like|gush at the dubbed accents of every nation, especially Germany who happens to be my favorite character]]. But one thing that pushed me into writing this entry is the dubbed short "Let's Play Soccer!" in episode 48. Basically, Germany is trying to read, but Italy continues to interrupt him by asking to play soccer. Then, Italy starts to bat Germany's hand between his own hands (to imitate a soccer ball) and suddenly makes a strange gesture. And what does Germany respond back in aggravation? He shouts at Italy, [[Dude, Not Funny|"Are you vanting me to gas you?!"]] [[Beat|Excuse me for a moment...]] the character Germany, as we all remember in the original Japanese ''Hetalia'' canon, [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|would! Never! Say! Such! Thing!]] Look, [[FUNimation]], aside from the fact that your dubbing/distribution company is based in a bigoted U.S. state -that is, y'know, Texas-, I praised you for replacing [[Four Kids Entertainment|4Kids']] horrible bowdlerized dub of ''[[One Piece]]'' with your accurate uncut dub and for giving me the hilarious gag dubs of ''[[Crayon Shin-chan]]'' and ''[[Sgt Frog]]''. But when you combined the character Germany with [[All Germans Are Nazis]] stereotypes, you're not only offending some several ''Hetalia'' fans who are probably Jewish but you're also destroying the reputation of Germany fans, including me. Thank god the [[Gag Dub]] script was toned down in later ''Hetalia'' dubbed episodes.

** You think that's bad? What about Germany's comment to South Italy earlier in episode 7? Basically, Romano (South Italy) is constantly trying to get Germany's goat. At one point he says that he's "got something for [Germany]". Germany's response? "Great. Vhat is it, another Jew?" Okay, wow. [[Dude, Not Funny|Just...wow.]] That...I don't even need to explain why that's offensive. I will give them points for historical accuracy (yes, [[Truth in Television|in real life Southern Italy did provide Nazi Germany with prisoners]]), but that doesn't excuse the offensiveness of the so-called "joke".

* As far as I'm a huge fan of ''[[Space Dandy]]'', episode 7 "A Race in Space is Dangerous, Baby" [[Fanon Discontinuity|never existed]]; {{spoiler|[[The Un-Reveal|we never found out who won the race]]}}. I understand that [[Gainax Ending]]s can always happen in every bizarre anime, but this one was just ridiculous!