Deus Ex/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

** Granted, but they still all need to get in and out ... through Jaime's medical centre apparently. You'd think he'd notice.

*** The way you leave the MJ12 zone through the med lab doesn't mean there were no other entrances. Although I do agree that to make a medical lab, which by default requires peace, quiet and sterility, a pass-through room is a rather strange decision.

**** You can explore the whole lower base and find no other entrance.

**** [[The Law of Conservation of Detail]].

**** That's great if you like overkill (given that it's at the far end of a heavily defended hidden military base and doesn't contain anything world shattering enough to warrant two top grade warbots) - what about the other ten or so medium weight bots that just sit there in the maintenance facility?

***** The armory contains a prototype plasma cannon, which there are precious few of out there.

****** I believe it's stated that the medium bots were taken offline due to a programming glitch. A more paranoid person than me might believe Daedalus had a hand in that...

**** I was assuming the bots ''were'' the weapons in the armoury - that's where they make repairs, reload the guns, and store them when they aren't patrolling, so...

** It seems like an EXTREMELY shitty plan to use as your escape vehicle a helicopter that the evil conspiracy can randomly take control of by remote at any time. What if they hadn't flown you to a base for you to escape? What if they had crashed you into the middle of the Pacific Ocean?

*** Also, why is it that when they force said helicopter to land in the MJ12 base, there is no "welcoming committee" of any kind? The point was to force you to land there and capture you, right? so why the hell weren't there any enemies waiting? Instead they just chill in the barracks and wait for you to slit their throats. There's even multiple military bots set up to charge into the helicopter bay, but they don't send them out until after you have freed the helicopter and it escapes.

 

* What about the Ocean Lab? Why the hell did someone put one of only two [[U Cs]] on the planet at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean? Why is the crew module as far as possible from the dock - that's a hell of a long way to schlep your luggage, even if it wasn't through labs? How did people get to and from the crew module before they dug that extra tunnel? Why does the tunnel contain the world's shortest (and least safe) railway? And how the hell did they get that mover/grader down there? Surely they didn't schlep ''that'' through the greasel lab?

* France is under paramilitary rule by an organization that controls most communications. It's not unlikely they just pass themselves off as a private security force and eliminate most references to themselves.

* "Sir? I just wiped out a large paramilitary base underneath New York. How did I discover it? Well, an illegal arms dealer asked me to do a favor for him..."

** While the organization may operate openly in France, the size and true goals of the organization are probably not known to the general populace, or indeed anyone outside the organization. A name can be easily overheard. MJ12 has it's own AI, Icarus, which can be presumed to have similar or better specs than Daedalus, and could probably run interference for MJ12 communications. Even if there was evidence that MJ12 was stockpiling huge amounts of military hardware, and was running a number of their own secret weapons projects, how could anyone tell for certain that those weapons were going to be used for world domination as opposed to, say, merely overthrowing the French government. Most people may even believe that MJ12 IS a branch of the French government. And finally, even if Daedalus or Everett compiled that information and gave it to someone, who would believe them, who would respond and which group, not already in MJ12's pocket, would have the political clout and firepower to take on MJ12?

** The restaurant owner in Paris thinks that MJ12 is an arm of the EU - which implies that French people in general do know vaguely about MJ12 and assume that it's technically above board.

** Simons specifically says that JC will be ready for activation "within six months", so it's half a year before the game starts.

* Actually, it was ''Simons'' expresssing concern and ''Page'' being dismissive''.

'''Page''': (on X-51) Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience. And their... ethical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they have refused to consider. }}

 

* JC was only a rookie at UNATCO, '''nobody''' knows who he is. They spread the rumors as fear-mongering for the public, basically.

** After the first mission at Liberty Island, you can read an email about the incoming nano-augmentation program and a reassurance to the mechanically-augmented agents. That and a few other dialogues gave me the impression more people inside UNATCO knew about JC's abilities than he did!

** The plan might have worked given that {{spoiler|Gunther tracks JC down in Paris}} after JC is seen in the club, on the streets etc.

 

* The vast majority of the executive orders listed on that page have been revoked by later executive orders, so no, FEMA doesn't have that much power anymore, even if they were interpreted in a broad manner. [http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html Check for yourself.]

The NSF don't know about UNATCO's plans to give JC a test, so they can't know UNATCO isn't going to be using their helicopters to strafe all the troops they have out in the open. They also have ONE sniper and they put him at ground level behind a bunch of walls. Wouldn't it be better for him to have been at the very top of the building, popping this lone trenchcoated guy who's killing your buddies on the ground? Methinks the NSF commander took his "You can't fight ideas with bullets." mantra a little too literally.

* The NSF are occupying the statue to waste UNATCO's time. The leader even says so at the top ("You're too late..." and then the peaceful surrender.) Their only purpose was to hold UNATCO up while the ambrosia was moved. Bombing the statue is not an option as long as Gunther is down there.

** UNATCO probably know what the NSF are up to, so they send in JC, knowing that it won't be too dangerous.

 

How much time passes from the start to end of the game? While JC Denton gets to Hong Kong unrealistically quickly, the game never seems to change out of night, and it seems improbable that everything from the raid on the Statue to the attempted escape with Paul happened in a night.

** Minor correction; JC is the one who didn't suspect it possible and expresses disbelief. Paul apparently knew about it, since his response is to explain that it works by setting the nanites for uncontrolled, cancer-like (presumably much faster though still not as fast as the mech-augs' bombs) growth.

*** I meant he didn't suspect it when he revealed his defection. I doubt he would've publicly switched sides on the opposite side of the world from the only man who could help if he had known.

 

How is it that Paul is too weak to climb out of a window and up a ladder, but is more than capable of winning a firefight with a dozen soldiers in a hotel lobby?