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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]:
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** Eva as well. [[Silk Hiding Steel]] or [[Action Mom]]? Dante saying that Trish, who is an [[Action Girl]], lacks her "fire" implies the latter, as does the fact that she was able to keep Mundus from getting her children in the attack that killed her. {{spoiler|Except in the original version, she didn't: Vergil was kidnapped and Dante was killed
▲** Eva as well. [[Silk Hiding Steel]] or [[Action Mom]]? Dante saying that Trish, who is an [[Action Girl]], lacks her "fire" implies the latter, as does the fact that she was able to keep Mundus from getting her children in the attack that killed her. {{spoiler|Except in the original version, she didn't: Vergil was kidnapped and Dante was killed.}}
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: Dante and Trish are going to be in ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]''. Dante's first game-trailer appearance? Fighting [[Deadpool]]. FTW, indeed.
** Also, Vergil's been confirmed for the [[Updated Rerelease]], ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3''... Okay well, he's not so much confirmed as he was leaked,
* [[Author's Saving Throw]]: Many fans are saying that the ''
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]: Love should also be given to the battle music, particularly the two tracks from ''Devil May Cry 3'', "Taste the Blood" and "Divine Hate
** The first track of ''Devil May Cry 3'', [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onwIcZt0-g4 "Dante's Office (7 Hells Battle)"] is the perfect track to get you pumped for a hyperkinetic battle in the Devil May Cry office.
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSvIPWVyjU All] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpJj5xY1m5A three] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7vIh5H5Q7M Vergil] battle themes from ''Devil May Cry 3''.
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFhs9LylxUo This wonderful theme] plays during the second half of the penultimate boss battle in ''Devil May Cry 3''.
*** And who could forget [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KlzfV8_DI "Devils Never Cry?"]
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atGcliA-HNw "Ultra Violet,"] Nelo Angelo's [[Leitmotif]] from the first game. From symphonic organs to rock and then back, it's the perfect theme for an [["Wake-Up Call" Boss|earnestly strong opponent that you face four missions into the game]].
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjS1H4zxGU "Swipe of Sword"] from ''Devil May Cry 4'' is essentially its successor, being used for {{spoiler|Angelo Credo, an [[Expy]] of Nelo Angelo himself}}. It is undoubtedly one of the best tracks in the game.
** The music that plays inside the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8oj_JIiq1M cathedral] of the first game is also certainly deserving of this.
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuu3imd3ws "Out of Darkness"] that plays in the opening scenes of ''Devil May Cry 4''.
* [[Breather Boss]]: Baal in ''Devil May Cry 4'' isn't a very hard fight, probably because he comes after a long slog through the castle collecting all the Gyro Blades. He telegraphs his attacks from a mile away, they're all easy enough to dodge, and he gives you tons of opportunities to damage him.▼
* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]: Comes right out of nowhere? Check. Has nearly nothing to do with the plot? Check. Ridiculously way over the top? Check. Never mentioned again? Check. If [[Funny Moments (Sugar Wiki)|Dante and Agnus going Shakespeare on one another]] isn't a complete BLAM, what is?▼
** Phantom's reappearance towards the end of ''2''. He just randomly pops out of nowhere, despite (in his last appearance) ''melting after being impaled on a spiked pillar''. The fact that he's inexplicably [[The Voiceless|mute]] doesn't help, although the description for that particular mission hints that [[Time Travel]] may be involved.▼
▲* [[Breather Boss]]: Baal in ''4'' isn't a very hard fight, probably because he comes after a long slog through the castle collecting all the Gyro Blades. He telegraphs his attacks from a mile away, they're all easy enough to dodge, and he gives you tons of opportunities to damage him.
** He can become a pain in hard mode though. Echnida however, is this on any difficulty.
* [[Crazy Awesome]]: For Sparda's sake, Dante uses [[Car Fu|Bike Fu]] in ''Devil May Cry 3''!▼
▲** Arkham ''especially''. {{spoiler|While it's implied that Arkham was actually a kind man before [[Start of Darkness|his obsession with the supernatural]], the guy killed his wife ''with no remorse whatsoever'' and was probably going to do the same thing to Lady, ''his only daughter''.}} Additionally, {{spoiler|his [[Blob Monster]] of a [[One-Winged Angel]] is said to not be caused by [[Power Incontinence|his inability to control Sparda's power]], but the result of the vast evil within his heart. Wow.}}
* [[Cry for the Devil]]: Dante does so when Vergil falls into Demon World of his own volition. Then comes the [[Title Drop]]...
▲* [[Crazy Awesome]]: For Sparda's sake, Dante uses [[Car Fu|Bike Fu]] in ''3''!
* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Blitz from ''
** Blitz isn't so hard with Nero: Charge Shoot 3, Showdown and the Buster make fin soup of it quickly enough. Dante, however, doesn't have such convenient moves, and it will require much more skill.
** The Arachne from ''
** The first game has Phantom, a giant lava spider/scorpion and the Kyklops, large demon spiders.
* [[Designated Hero]]: Trish in ''Devil May Cry 4'', {{spoiler|for giving the most powerful weapon in the game to the Order, allowing them to wreak havoc much faster than they would have originally. The only thing possibly keeping Trish a hero is that she's sided with Dante
** It's heavily implied that {{spoiler|she did such an act out of boredom but also to quickly rise up the ranks of the Order in a short period of time and then [[Reverse Mole|relay info back to Dante]]. Granted, it was still a terrible decision, but it doesn't make Trish that bad of a person, not to mention that she and Dante manage to contain and quickly clean up her folly
* [[Disappointing Last Level]]: In ''Devil May Cry 4'' due to aforementioned excess of [[Back Tracking]].
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Vergil.
* [[Ear Worm]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KlzfV8_DI "Devils Never Cry"] from ''Devil May Cry 3''. The battle music ("Taste the Blood" and "Divine Hate") will also get stuck in your head eventually, considering how often you'll be hearing it.
** Same goes for the introduction of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iBNMn6GUss "The Time Has Come"] (Nero's theme).
* [[Epileptic Trees]]:
* [[Epileptic Trees]]: Some fans believe that the zweihander Nelo Angelo wields is actually a corrupted version of the Yamato. Similarly, they believe that Nelo's death factors into the Yamato's broken appearance in ''4''.▼
** The collection of swords along the walls of Dante's shop could be a collection of Devil Arms from his offscreen missions.
** Besides the [[Continuity Snarl]] behind the [[Word of God]]-confirmed facts that Vergil {{spoiler|[[Killed Off for Real|is dead]] and [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Nero is his son]]}}, there's questioning over whether or not the Yamato is acting as his [[Soul Jar]], considering that Nero's DT looks considerably like a fusion of Vergil's DT from ''Devil May Cry 3'' and Nelo Angelo. Not to mention that the quote in Nero's section is a psuedo-[[Call Back]] to one of Vergil's [[Motive Rant
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▲** Vergil and Dante are badass on different scales. Dante's the carefree badass, and Vergil's the refined badass. Either way, both suffer from [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|Stupid Sexy Sparda]].
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Vergil, and Trish until her [[Heel Face Turn]]. Then it becomes full-on [[Inverted Trope|Good Is Sexy]].
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]:
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* [[Fanon]]: Nero being Vergil's son is never said explicitly in ''4''; the novel stating it and the guy from Capcom's localization having heard this somewhere are of dubious legitimacy. The game just says that he has "Sparda's blood"; which doesn't leave many possibilities, but at least two (Vergil and Sparda himself).▼
▲* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: There's quite a bit of art out there depicting Dante with [[Distaff Counterpart|his female counterpart]] [[Bayonetta]]. Talk about a [[Battle Couple]]...
** Dante is also paired with Morrigan from ''[[Darkstalkers]]''.
▲* [[Fanon]]: Nero being Vergil's son is never said explicitly in ''Devil May Cry 4''
* [[Faux Symbolism]]: See
* [[Freud Was Right]]: The ''entire theme'' of Trish (specifically, the implication was that Mundus was using her as a [[Honey Trap]] for Dante in the first game), but subverted. As said in [[Oedipus Complex]] under Dante's entry in the characters sheet, it doesn't work on Dante
* [[Game Breaker]]: ''Devil May Cry 3'''s style Quicksilver puts Dante into bullet time for rather long periods of time, though it eats up is devil gauge. However, with enough devil gauge restoring items, it becomes a little broken.▼
▲* [[Freud Was Right]]: The ''entire theme'' of Trish (specifically, the implication was that Mundus was using her as a [[Honey Trap]] for Dante in the first game), but subverted. As said in [[Oedipus Complex]] under Dante's entry in the characters sheet, it doesn't work on Dante -- he's visibly disturbed by her appearance.
▲* [[Game Breaker]]: ''Devil May Cry 3'''s style Quicksilver puts Dante into bullet time for rather long periods of time, though it eats up is devil gauge. However, with enough devil gauge restoring items it becomes a little broken.
** When playing in a unlocked mode with a certain costume, Dante has unlimited Devil Trigger. The game then essentially becomes "Dante slaughters everything in bullet time", so long as the player wants to be cheap.
** ''
* [[Goddamned Bats]]: From ''
** The Nefasturris boss in ''Devil May Cry 2'' is apparently ''made of them''.
* [[Good Bad Bugs]]: Jump Cancelling, which allows for infinite aerial maneuvers.
* [[He's Just Hiding]]: Vergil, Sparda... Eva might be next, at this rate.
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Arius' corporation goes by the name of [[Ouroboros|Uroboros]]. [[Resident Evil 5|Sound familiar
** Doubly so if you consider Arius' international enterprise and the fact that {{spoiler|Possessed Arius sports some psuedo-Ouroboros tentacles
* [[Ho Yay Shipping]]/[[Foe Yay Shipping]]: Dante and Nelo
** And in a case of horrible, horrible [[Squick]], Cerberus/Dante.
** Well, to be fair to the fanbase, the games personified them first. Hi, remember Nevan?
*** [[Viewtiful Joe|Alastor]] gives his regards too.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Vergil in the first novel. The third game, which otherwise copied the first novel's version of the character {{spoiler|ended up with him as the [[Unwitting Pawn]] instead
** Arkham {{spoiler|uses a brilliant [[Xanatos Gambit]] and acting convincing of a joker to turn [[Melee a Trois|Dante, Vergil
▲* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Vergil in the first novel. The third game, which otherwise copied the first novel's version of the character {{spoiler|ended up with him as the [[Unwitting Pawn]] instead.}}
▲** Arkham {{spoiler|uses a brilliant [[Xanatos Gambit]] and acting convincing of a joker to turn [[Melee a Trois|Dante, Vergil, and Lady against one another]], effectively allowing him to open the door to Demon World and receive Sparda's power.}}
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Dante, although it's not ''entirely'' memetic.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** [http://img205.imageshack.us/i/119767809896vn5.png/ UR A FAGET].
** It didn't take long for a ''DmC: Devil May Cry'' [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/09/f2cdd856207ea71c0ee50ac77b60ddf4/original.jpg variant]{{Dead link}} to pop up. [http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx18/CosmicHumor/notdante.jpg The fans are having] [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/09/d6dec222f882a2d66f97735b36d7995b/original.jpg a field day with this one.]{{Dead link}}
** Is sanity the price to pay... '''[[Ham-to-Ham Combat|FOR POWER?!]]'''
*** Any of Dante's one-liners.
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*** That last one is notably bad to the point that several videos have the audio edited in. There's even a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLuXNpUF7w version] swapping his lines with that of [[Mega Man X|Zero]] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUbZbAWVYZg and vice versa]), a character who also had a [[Tear Jerker|legitimately heartfelt moment]] [[Narm|ruined for the same reasons]].
** A slight one came after Dante's redesign, where people drew other famous characters such as [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] in a similar style, [[Take That|mocking]] the "edgy" look of Donte. [[Stylistic Suck|Being drawn in MS Paint]] helped.
** The [https://web.archive.org/web/20121128181838/http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/new-dmc-designer-on-fan-reacti/1133371 response] from Ninja Theory director Tameen Antoniades regarding how people feel about the remake, as follows:
{{quote|''Tameen looked at me a moment and took a drag of his cigarette. Then without blinking, and without pausing to exhale the smoke from his mouth he said, "I don't care."''}}
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: Dante's outfits from ''Devil May Cry 1'' and ''Devil May Cry 3''.
* [[Memetic Sex God]]: ''Everyone'' wants to get into Dante's pants. EVERYONE.
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: KULUE!!! KULUEEEEEEE!!!! Made even worse when Nero starts to have a reverse puberty similar to Dante's below when he cries after fighting Agnus.
* [[Narm Charm]]:
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{{quote|'''Dante''': "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with ''liiiiiiiiiiiight''!"}}
** For bonus points, Dante's voice cracks very unmanfully right at the end of that line, like he was suddenly struck with reverse puberty.
▲* [[
▲** Phantom's reappearance towards the end of ''Devil May Cry 2''. He just randomly pops out of nowhere, despite (in his last appearance) ''melting after being impaled on a spiked pillar''. The fact that he's inexplicably [[The Voiceless|mute]] doesn't help, although the description for that particular mission hints that [[Time Travel]] may be involved.
* [[Polished Port]]: The PC version of ''Devil May Cry 4'', which not only runs very smoothly on a wide array of systems, but puts higher-end systems to the test with ''[[Idiosyncratic Difficulty Levels|Legendary Dark Knight Mode]]'', which [[Zerg Rush|fills the screen with enemies]]. Quite the breath of fresh air for PC gamers.
* [[Porting Disaster]]: The port of ''Devil May Cry 3'' from console to PC, thanks to Capcom outsourcing the porting job to another developer. Thankfully, Capcom learned their lesson after ''
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]:
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** A general complaint about ''DmC'' is that Ninja Theory and Capcom have somehow managed to make Dante a [[Replacement Scrappy]] ''to himself
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: How seemingly 95% of the fandom reacted to the debut trailer of ''DmC''.
** Not even the members of developers' official forums bother defending Dante's redesign in the newest entry of the series.
** It also doesn't help when the higher ups more or less tell the fanbase that their opinions are wrong, and then claim that "Old Dante [https://web.archive.org/web/20111106170448/http://scrawlfx.com/2010/09/ninja-theory-old-dante-isnt-cool-anymore isn't cool anymore
** Hell, even the creator of the series, Hideki Kamiya, [https://web.archive.org/web/20111210001833/http://scrawlfx.com/2010/09/devil-may-cry-creator-not-too-fond-of-new-dante does not approve of the redesign
** The general idea for ''DmC'' seems to make Dante a young jerkwad who's even prouder and more arrogant than he will be as he gets older. This also, apparently, extends to his fashion and hair sense. It's not clear whether this would have a mollifying effect on the complaining fandom.
** And now apparently Dante is [http://www.siliconera.com/2011/08/16/dmc-devil-may-cry-dante-is-half-devil-and-half-angel half demon and half angel] as well as [http://www.siliconera.com/2011/08/22/dmc-devil-may-crys-dante-is-more-of-a-street-brawler more of a street brawler
*** Of course, they are rather justified in this respect
*** And suddenly it's a [[Continuity Reboot]]. ''[[Sarcasm Mode|Surprise surprise]]''.
**** What is this? It's suddenly back to being a Rebirth with Capcom trying to humanize Dante (despite them putting him as a half-angel/half-demon in this game already). Capcom, [[Precision F-Strike|MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND!]]
** Also, it's T-rated. Cries of Capcom completely missing the point of the [[Rated "M" for Manly|entire franchise]] abounds.
** Of course, complaints have extended straight out to the gameplay as well, mostly because of slow and dull-looking combat and how Dante seems to take forever and a half to kill a single enemy. Really, when people think ''Devil May Cry 2'' looks like a halfway-decent entry to the series compared to this, ''you're doing something wrong
** "I don't care". These three words, uttered by Tameen Antoniades himself regarding the outcries against the reboot, have pissed off damn near every single fan.
* [[Scrappy Mechanic]]: Okay, so whose great idea was it to invent the Proud Soul system and have it work [[Adam Smith Hates Your Guts|the exact same way]] as the regular Red Orb purchases?
** It works because earlier games forced you to choose whether you wanted to spend your Red Orbs on items or abilities, and refunds weren't allowed. However, in ''Devil May Cry 4'', you can return abilities for a refund in Proud Souls (and at the current price!), allowing you to effectively customize your moveset.
*** Although to compensate for the customizeability, you can only get additional Proud Souls after you finish a mission, making it so that you can't get any new abilities mid-mission, and the cost of every single ability goes up when you buy one, making maxing out all abilities prohibitively expensive, far more expensive than the total cost of all abilities in any of the previous games... and naturally [[Last Lousy Point|there's an achievement for getting all abilities]]. Furthermore, few people actually use the Red Orbs for anything beyond the storebought [[Heart Container|Blue and Purple Orbs]] and thus most of them just end up going to waste after you get the maximum number of both. The only good aspect about them is the fact that Proud Souls are shared between characters, meaning Dante won't start off with zero abilities when the game switches over to him.
** Whose great idea was it to put a time limit on Bloody Palace?
** While the [[Down the Drain|underwater sequences]] in the first game were neither horrible nor impressive, in ''Devil May Cry 2'', [[That One Level|they become this]]. And guess what? You get to play as them with ''only'' Lucia. And did we mention that there's a [[Underwater Boss Battle|boss to be faced]]? [[Sarcasm Mode|Have fun!]]
** The style system in ''Devil May Cry 3''. Why the hell should the player choose between the ability to [[Flash Step]] and that to guard? Between multi-aiming with guns and additional melee attacks? This is a great source of [[Fake Difficulty]] against bosses or enemies you face for the first time, and gets especially annoying in the penultimate boss, where the fact of having Vergil fighting with you ''prevents you from using any of your styles''. Thankfully, ''Devil May Cry 4'' allows you to change styles whenever you want, including mid-combo, making the system much more interesting to exploit, [[Difficult but Awesome|if tricky to master]].
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: When it came out, reviews lauded the first game for its fast action and deep gameplay; today, many players who try it find it kind of slow, clunky and limited (not to mention the infamous [[Damn You, Muscle Memory!|triangle jump]]). It has the right to be, since it basically set all the foundations of the modern Beat 'em All genre, three years before ''[[God of War (series)|God of War]]'' and Itagaki's ''[[Ninja Gaiden]]''.
* [[Self-Imposed Challenge]]
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: Oh man, is there ''ever''. Expect Dante/Trish fans to bash Lady from being too [[Tsundere|tsuntsun]] with Dante (at least in ''Devil May Cry 3''), Dante/Lady fans to be [[Squick
* [[So Cool Its Awesome]]: As a credit to the gameplay, let it be known that ''Devil May Cry'', a series of ''single player'' action games, '''''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DWmuXQ7Qk is tournament worthy.]'''''
* [[Star Trek Movie Curse]]: The odd numbered games are considered classics and the even numbered games and the reboot have had mixed reviews.
* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]: You play on Easy Automatic? [[Leet Lingo|GTFO n00b]]!
* [[Tainted by the Preview]]: "NERO!"
** ''DmC: Devil May Cry'' is getting an '''astronomical''' amount of this, with several fans [[Fanon Discontinuity|refusing to acknowledge its existence]]. We're talking about even more flak than ''Devil May Cry 2'' got.
* [[That One Attack]]: If you get swallowed by Nightmare, you're sent into a demonic dimension where you must fight several [[Dem Bones|Sargassoes]] and one of the previous bosses to get out.
** This also doubles as Nightmare's [[Achilles' Heel]]. Escaping from this dimension deals a sizable portion of damage to Nightmare's health bar. However, [[It Only Works Once]]
* [[That One Boss]]: Griffon, Nightmare, Trismagia, Leviathan's Heart, Arkham, {{spoiler|Dante}}, etc... You take your pick.
* [[That One Level]]: Chapter 10 in ''Devil May Cry 4'' will make you ''hate'' [[Laser Hallway|lasers]]! And that's just before fighting [[That One Boss|Dante]]...
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: How the ones not screaming [[Ruined FOREVER]] reacted to ''DmC'''s debut trailer.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: In ''
** This is how many fans are treating [[Left Hanging|several plot threads left hanging]] (i.e. the ''full'' extent of [[Shrouded in Myth|Sparda (and Eva)'s tale]], hints that Nero is Vergil's son, the [[Sequel Hook]] for Nero at the end of ''Devil May Cry 4'', etc
** In general, Vergil Mode in ''Devil May Cry 3:
** Not only that, but [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]] to fight against in Bloody Palace mode. When playing as Nero or Dante in Bloody Palace mode, the final boss... is Dante/[[Palette Swap|Shadow]] [[Mirror Match|Dante]] respectively. You never get to fight an AI controlled Nero as the last boss when playing as Dante.
* [[The Unexpected]]: Few people were expecting Trish to be included on the ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' roster. [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|Not that anyone's complaining...]]
* [[Unnecessary Makeover]]: Lady in ''Devil May Cry 4'', considering she wasn't unattractive to begin with and appealed to a lot of fans in ''Devil May Cry 3''.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Trish. {{spoiler|Taking a powerful sword capable of subduing the Prince of Darkness and handing it to a [[Corrupt Church]] is NOT a good idea
** Not necessarily idiotic and possibly done because [[It Amused Me|It Amused Her]]. Judging from the way she and Dante act throughout the course of the game, it was a stunt she pulled without his permission because it was fun. Considering that Dante is a [[One-Man Army]] [[Badass]] and will curbstomp the bad guys anyway, any entertainment is welcome.
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