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* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: Vergil. ''Twice''.
* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Vergil is the ''most'' heavily debated character in the series. Is he a [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] [[Freudian Excuse|trying to atone]] [[My Greatest Failure|for his failure to protect his mother]], or is he just a [[Complete Monster|nefarious bastard with no care in the world for the repercussions of]] [[Visionary Villain|his goal to attain the power of his father]]? Is the fact that he {{spoiler|had a son}} a glimmer of light in his life, or just another way for Vergil [[Generation Xerox|to be as similar to dear 'ol daddy as possible]]?
** Kamiya's original vision was that Vergil had been [[The Woobie|kidnapped as a child]] (when Dante lost a mother and brother to evil twenty years ago), and was never anything but a [[More Than Mind Control|good guy]] who managed to break loose to help his brother. The author of the first novel decided to ignore that, and wrote Vergil as an [[Magnificent Bastard|evil]] [[Badass]] who was around during Dante's teens. One of these Vergils was obviously much cooler than the other, and ''DMC3'' made the novel's version of the character canon.
** Eva as well. [[Silk Hiding Steel]] or [[Action Mom]]? Dante saying that Trish, who is an [[Action Girl]], lacks her "fire" implies the latter, as does the fact that she was able to keep Mundus from getting her children in the attack that killed her. {{spoiler|Except in the original version, she didn't: Vergil was kidnapped and Dante was killed.}}
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: Dante and Trish are going to be in ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Video Game)|Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]''. Dante's first game-trailer appearance? Fighting [[Deadpool]]. FTW, indeed.
** Also, Vergil's been confirmed for the [[Updated Rerelease]], ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3''... Okay well, he's not so much confirmed as he was leaked, THEN confirmed when [[Word of God]] acknowledged the leak.
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* [[AuthorsAuthor's Saving Throw]]: Many fans are saying that the ''DMC'' preboot being an [[Alternate Continuity]] is clearly [http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/31/dmc-devil-may-cry-takes-place-in-a-parallel-world-with-a-different-dante/ this] due to the [[Internet Backdraft|backdraft]] caused by it.
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]: Love should also be given to the battle music, particularly the two tracks from ''Devil May Cry 3'', "Taste the Blood" and "Divine Hate." "Taste the Blood" crosses over with both [[Moment of Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|Crowning Moment of Awesome]] and [[Funny Moments (Sugar Wiki)|Crowning Moment of Funny]] when Dante gets the Nevan weapon--a literal electric guitar--and tests it out by performing the aforementioned song. Complete with sounds of an audience cheering (though no actual audience is seen) and stage pyrotechnics.
** The first track of ''3'', [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onwIcZt0-g4 "Dante's Office (7 Hells Battle)"] is the perfect track to get you pumped for a hyperkinetic battle in the Devil May Cry office.
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** He can become a pain in hard mode though. Echnida however, is this on any difficulty.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Mundus and Arkham.
** Arkham ''especially''. {{spoiler|While it's implied that Arkham was actually a kind man before [[Start of Darkness|his obsession with the supernatural]], the guy killed his wife ''with no remorse whatsoever'' and was probably going to do the same thing to Lady, ''his only daughter''.}} Additionally, {{spoiler|his [[Blob Monster]] of a [[One -Winged Angel]] is said to not be caused by [[Power Incontinence|his inability to control Sparda's power]], but the result of the vast evil within his heart. Wow.}}
* [[Crazy Awesome]]: For Sparda's sake, Dante uses [[Car Fu|Bike Fu]] in ''3''!
* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Blitz from ''DMC4''. They're more like Demonic Beetles, really, but most players can agree they'd rather fight an actual boss than one of these. Far from the only one though.
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* [[Epileptic Trees]]: Some fans believe that the zweihander Nelo Angelo wields is actually a corrupted version of the Yamato. Similarly, they believe that Nelo's death factors into the Yamato's broken appearance in ''4''.
** The collection of swords along the walls of Dante's shop could be a collection of Devil Arms from his offscreen missions.
** Besides the [[Continuity Snarl]] behind the [[Word of God]]-confirmed facts that Vergil {{spoiler|[[Killed Off for Real|is dead]] and [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Nero is his son]]}}, there's questioning over whether or not the Yamato is acting as his [[Soul Jar]], considering that Nero's DT looks considerably like a fusion of Vergil's DT from ''3'' and Nelo Angelo. Not to mention that the quote in Nero's section is a psuedo-[[Call Back]] to one of Vergil's [[Motive Rant|Motive Rants]] in ''3''.
* [[Escapist Character]]: Dante, tell me you don't wish you'd be ''that'' [[Badass]].
** [[This Loser Is You]]: Not if you were stuck in [[Perpetual Poverty]] with two women driving you into even more debt.
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* [[Fake Ultimate Mook]]: The Mega Scarecrows in ''4'' are huge and have a crapload of health, but that's about it. They are even slower than regular Scarecrows, flinch at the slightest hit and rarely replicate - you just have to watch out for their roll attack, and their back blade which falls back two seconds after they die.
* [[Fanon]]: Nero being Vergil's son is never said explicitly in ''4''; the novel stating it and the guy from Capcom's localization having heard this somewhere are of dubious legitimacy. The game just says that he has "Sparda's blood"; which doesn't leave many possibilities, but at least two (Vergil and Sparda himself).
* [[Fan -Preferred Couple]]: There's quite a bit of art out there depicting Dante with [[Distaff Counterpart|his female counterpart]] [[Bayonetta]]. Talk about a [[Battle Couple]]...
** Dante is also paired with Morrigan from ''[[Darkstalkers (Video Game)|Darkstalkers]]''.
* [[Faux Symbolism]]: See "[[Rule of Symbolism]]" on the main page, for starters.
* [[Flanderization]]: Dante started out in ''1'' as a [[Disney]] [[Anti -Hero]] (a [[Knight in Sour Armor]]). He posed as a mercenary and was picky about which jobs he took, but he would only refuse if the job lacked demons of any sort, taking the mission ''regardless'' of how much he got paid as long as demons were involved. Despite the wisecracking personality he had, he knew when to serious the hell up if it meant saving the world. Dante in ''1'' was kind enough to offer mercy to Griffon and Trish despite both of them wanting him dead (and it pays off on Trish's end; she joins him). Despite the animated series happening a short time after ''1'', they basically inverted his character as he is much more money-minded than demon-minded and prone to [[Out of Character]] and hypocritical moments, such as calling Modeus "pathetic" for wanting to avenge his dead brother. His [[Perpetual Poverty|debt]] to various people we've barely heard of are played up to uncomfortable laughs, and he's suddenly grown some [[Destructive Savior]] tendencies along with it. The later games just make him a [[Jerkass]].
** A bonus picture of ''3'' has Lady holding up the handlebar of her destroyed bike, with Dante shrugging in the distance. While it's understandable that she would want to be paid back for it, like the "debt" point, it's overplayed. Her later appearances end up having to do with either money Dante owes her for her bike, or money Dante owes in general.
** Trish's [[Heel Face Turn]] in the first game was remarked on by Mundus as being "sudden" ("Failure is one thing, but taking on an odd behavior like that..."). Later games have her as extremely impulsive and moody for no reason.
** [[Characterization Marches On]]: These personality traits first surfaced in ''The Animated Series'' and subsequently stuck for ''4''.
*** Until ''4'', however, this could have been justified as Dante mellowing out over time. He makes the expected leap from [[Jerkass]] to [[Jerk Withwith a Heart of Gold]] over the course of ''3'', which would naturally bring him up to the more [[Knight in Sour Armor]] portrayal of ''1''. As stated before, however, ''4'' more or less [[Jossed]] this.
* [[Freud Was Right]]: The ''entire theme'' of Trish (specifically, the implication was that Mundus was using her as a [[Honey Trap]] for Dante in the first game), but subverted. As said in [[Oedipus Complex]] under Dante's entry in the characters sheet, it doesn't work on Dante -- he's visibly disturbed by her appearance.
* [[Game Breaker]]: ''Devil May Cry 3'''s style Quicksilver puts Dante into bullet time for rather long periods of time, though it eats up is devil gauge. However, with enough devil gauge restoring items it becomes a little broken.
** When playing in a unlocked mode with a certain costume, Dante has unlimited Devil Trigger. The game then essentially becomes "Dante slaughters everything in bullet time", so long as the player wants to be cheap.
** ''Devil May Cry'' has Shotgun Hiking. With Air Hike and a shotgun you can [[Good Bad Bugs|endlessly jump and juggle an airborne target until it dies or you mess up the trick.]]
* [[Goddamned Bats]]: From ''DMC4'', you have the Chimera Seeds. [[LaymansLayman's Terms|Bladey Planty thingies]] that just love to attach to other monsters so they can interrupt your combo. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, as on higher difficulties pretty much every mook is one.
** The Nefasturris boss in ''2'' is apparently ''made of them''.
* [[Good Bad Bugs]]: Jump Cancelling, which allows for infinite aerial maneuvers.
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*** [[Viewtiful Joe|Alastor]] gives his regards too.
* [[In Name Only]]: ''Many'' are saying this of Ninja Theory's reboot.
** Many believe that [http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/31/dmc-devil-may-cry-takes-place-in-a-parallel-world-with-a-different-dante/ the recent announcement that] ''DmC'' [[Flip -Flop of God|is now suddenly]] [[Alternate Continuity]] instead of a [[Continuity Reboot]] or [[Prequel]] was done in response to these claims as damage control.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Vergil in the first novel. The third game, which otherwise copied the first novel's version of the character {{spoiler|ended up with him as the [[Unwitting Pawn]] instead.}}
** Arkham {{spoiler|uses a brilliant [[Xanatos Gambit]] and acting convincing of a joker to turn [[Melee a Trois|Dante, Vergil, and Lady against one another]], effectively allowing him to open the door to Demon World and receive Sparda's power.}}
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*** Any of Dante's one-liners.
** I should have been the one to fill this dark page with '''''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ddOyvnh6o LIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!]'''''
*** That last one is notably bad to the point that several videos have the audio edited in. There's even a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLuXNpUF7w version] swapping his lines with that of [[Mega Man X (Video Game)|Zero]] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUbZbAWVYZg and vice versa]), a character who also had a [[Tear Jerker|legitimately heartfelt moment]] [[Narm|ruined for the same reasons]].
** A slight one came after Dante's redesign, where people drew other famous characters such as [[Super Mario Bros (Franchise).|Mario]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog (Franchise)|Sonic]] in a similar style, [[Take That|mocking]] the "edgy" look of Donte. [[Stylistic Suck|Being drawn in MS Paint]] helped.
** The [http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/new-dmc-designer-on-fan-reacti/1133371 response] from Ninja Theory director Tameen Antoniades regarding how people feel about the remake, as follows:
{{quote| ''Tameen looked at me a moment and took a drag of his cigarette. Then without blinking, and without pausing to exhale the smoke from his mouth he said, "I don't care."''}}
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** Phantom, for those who hate spiders.
** Griffon. His head is composed of several upper jaws around a hole.
** Trismagia and anything relating to Argosax (excluding [[One -Winged Angel|The Despair Embodied]]) in ''2''
** Bael/Dagon in ''4''.
* [[Polished Port]]: The PC version of ''Devil May Cry 4'', which not only runs very smoothly on a wide array of systems, but puts higher-end systems to the test with ''[[Idiosyncratic Difficulty Levels|Legendary Dark Knight Mode]]'', which [[Zerg Rush|fills the screen with enemies]]. Quite the breath of fresh air for PC gamers.
* [[Porting Disaster]]: The port of ''3'' from console to PC, thanks to Capcom outsourcing the porting job to another developer. Thankfully, Capcom learned their lesson after ''DMC3'' and ''[[Resident Evil 4 (Video Game)|Resident Evil 4]]'', resulting in the above.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: Many fans saw Nero as one of these [[Tainted Byby the Preview|before the game finally came out]]. Although most agreed that [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|the hate was ill-placed]], some could never shake the image off.
** A general complaint about ''DmC'' is that Ninja Theory and Capcom have somehow managed to make Dante a Replacement Scrappy ''to himself.''
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: How seemingly 95% of the fandom reacted to the debut trailer of ''DmC''.
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*** Of course, they are rather justified in this respect - the whole "half-angel" thing doesn't even remotely gel with existing canon, as Eva being Dante and Vergil's human mother was a central plot point in both ''DMC1'' and ''DMC3''. In short, it's an example of [[Canon Defilement]].
*** And suddenly it's a [[Continuity Reboot]]. ''[[Sarcasm Mode|Surprise surprise]]''.
**** What is this? It's suddenly back to being a Rebirth with Capcom trying to humanize Dante (despite them putting him as a half-angel/half-demon in this game already). Capcom, [[Precision F -Strike|MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND!]]
** Also, it's T-rated. Cries of Capcom completely missing the point of the [[Rated Mfor"M" for Manly|entire franchise]] abounds.
** Of course, complaints have extended straight out to the gameplay as well, mostly because of slow and dull-looking combat and how Dante seems to take forever and a half to kill a single enemy. Really, when people think ''Devil May Cry 2'' looks like a halfway-decent entry to the series compared to this, ''you're doing something wrong.''
** "I don't care". These three words, uttered by Tameen Antoniades himself regarding the outcries against the reboot, have pissed off damn near every single fan.
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** While the [[Down the Drain|underwater sequences]] in the first game were neither horrible nor impressive, in ''2'', [[That One Level|they become this]]. And guess what? You get to play as them with ''only'' Lucia. And did we mention that there's a [[Underwater Boss Battle|boss to be faced]]? [[Sarcasm Mode|Have fun!]]
** The style system in ''3''. Why the hell should the player choose between the ability to [[Flash Step]] and that to guard? Between multi-aiming with guns and additional melee attacks? This is a great source of [[Fake Difficulty]] against bosses or enemies you face for the first time, and gets especially annoying in the penultimate boss, where the fact of having Vergil fighting with you ''prevents you from using any of your styles''. Thankfully, ''4'' allows you to change styles whenever you want, including mid-combo, making the system much more interesting to exploit, [[Difficult but Awesome|if tricky to master]].
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: When it came out, reviews lauded the first game for its fast action and deep gameplay; today many players who try it find it kind of slow, clunky and limited (not to mention the infamous [[Damn You, Muscle Memory!|triangle jump]]). It has the right to be, since it basically set all the foundations of the modern Beat 'em All genre, three years before ''[[God of War (Video Gameseries)|God of War]]'' and Itagaki's ''[[Ninja Gaiden (Video Game)|Ninja Gaiden]]''.
* [[Ship -to -Ship Combat]]: Oh man, is there ''ever''. Expect Dante/Trish fans to bash Lady from being too [[Tsundere|tsuntsun]] with Dante (at least in ''3''), Dante/Lady fans to be [[Squick|Squicked]] out by the [[Freud Was Right|former]], and ''both'' to utterly derail Dante/Lucia fans mainly because Lucia was in a less popular game. There's also a vocal minority for the [[Cargo Ship]] of Dante/[[Horny Devils|Nevan]]. With the release of ''4'', Dante/Nero has seen its fair share of popularity (although it doesn't seem to cause tension with the relatively untouched [[Official Couple|Nero/Kyrie]]). And there's [[Twincest|Dante/Vergil]], perhaps the ''most'' popular pairing in [[Fanfic|Fan Fics]]... ''ever''. Then, there's the faction that believes that Dante, being an [[Action Hero]], [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships|has no canon partner]]. That's not even getting into the even palpable art of [[Crossover Ship|Crossover Shipping]], such as the immensely-popular [[Fan -Preferred Couple|Fan Preferred Couples]] of Dante and his [[Distaff Counterpart]] [[Bayonetta]] or Dante and [[Darkstalkers (Video Game)|Morrigan]]...
* [[So Cool Its Awesome]]: As a credit to the gameplay, let it be known that ''Devil May Cry'', a series of ''single player'' action games, '''''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DWmuXQ7Qk is tournament worthy.]'''''
* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]: You play on Easy Automatic? [[Leet Lingo|GTFO n00b]]!
* [[Strawman Political]]: The {{spoiler|[[Corrupt Church]]}} in 4 seems like an obvious [[Take That]] against Christianity, but the director denies this is the case.
* [[Tainted Byby the Preview]]: "NERO!"
** ''DmC: Devil May Cry'' is getting an '''astronomical''' amount of this, with several fans [[Fanon Discontinuity|refusing to acknowledge its existence]]. We're talking about even more flak than ''Devil May Cry 2'' got.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: The opening video for ''4''.
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* [[That One Boss]]: Griffon, Nightmare, Trismagia, Leviathan's Heart, Arkham, {{spoiler|Dante}}, etc... You take your pick.
* [[That One Level]]: Chapter 10 in ''4'' will make you ''hate'' [[Laser Hallway|lasers]]! And that's just before fighting [[That One Boss|Dante]]...
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: How the ones not screaming [[Ruined FOREVER]] reacted to ''DmC'''s debut trailer.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: In ''DMC4'', Nero is eventually revealed to {{spoiler|"have the blood of Sparda."}} '''Nobody cares.'''
** This is how many fans are treating [[Left Hanging|several plot threads left hanging]] (i.e. the ''full'' extent of [[Shrouded in Myth|Sparda (and Eva)'s tale]], hints that Nero is Vergil's son, the [[Sequel Hook]] for Nero at the end of ''4'', etc.) in lieu of ''DmC'' being a reboot.
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* [[Unnecessary Makeover]]: Lady in ''4'', considering she wasn't unattractive to begin with and appealed to a lot of fans in ''3''.
* [[Villain Decay]]: When you first see Arius in ''2'', he's a [[Added Alliterative Appeal|calm, cunning, and competent]] villain who actually poses a threat to Dante. He even seems to be slightly [[Genre Savvy]], considering that he tries to use Lucia {{spoiler|being held hostage}} against Dante. The next time you see him, it's like he's a completely different person. ''And there's no viable reason for it.''
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Trish. {{spoiler|Taking a powerful sword capable of subduing the Prince of Darkness and handing it to a [[Corrupt Church]] is NOT a good idea.}}
** Not necessarily idiotic and possibly done because [[It Amused Me|It Amused Her]]. Judging from the way she and Dante act throughout the course of the game, it was a stunt she pulled without his permission because it was fun. Considering that Dante is a [[One -Man Army]] [[Badass]] and will curbstomp the bad guys anyway, any entertainment is welcome.
 
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